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This is the thread for discussing the War in Ukraine. Should you want to discuss the geopolitics, the history, or an interesting tangent, head over here:


If a post isn't directly concerning the events of the war or starts to derail the thread, report the post to us and we'll move it over there.

Seeing as multiple people seem to have forgotten, abuse is against the rules of BF. Continuous, page long attacks directed at a single poster in this thread will result in threadbans for a week from this point; doing so again once you have returned will make the bans permanent and will be escalated to infractions.

This thread still has misinformation rules, and occasionally you will be asked to demonstrate a claim you have made by moderation. If you cannot, you will be offered the opportunity to amend the post to reflect that it's opinion, to remove the post, or you will be threadbanned and infracted for sharing misinformation.

Addendum: from this point, use of any variant of the word 'orc' to describe combatants, politicians or russians in general will be deleted and the poster will receive a warning. If the behaviour continues, it will be escalated. Consider this fair warning.

Finally: If I see the word Nazi or Hitler being flung around, there had better have a good faith basis as to how it's applicable to the Russian invasion - as in, video/photographic evidence of POW camps designed to remove another ethnic group - or to the current Ukrainian army. If this does not occur, you will be threadbanned for posting off topic

This is a sensitive area, and I understand that this makes for fairly incensed conversation sometimes. This does not mean the rules do not apply, whether to a poster positing a Pro-Ukraine stance or a poster positing an alternative view.

Behave, people.
 
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Zelenskyy certainly is having the last laugh at the expense of Trump, Vance and the rest of the suckholes in the Oval Office TV set. Looking back on that ambush and character assassination attempt, Zelenskyy certainly played his cards right by not mentioning the plan at that meeting, and by not sharing the plan at any subsequent meeting with the Trump/Putin alliance.
As well as being one of the great war time operations in modern history, it was a massive failure of intelligence organisations of not only Russia, but also of the US networks.
Ukraine knows the US is untrustworthy on global security, and Ukraine also knows that if the US was given a "heads up", the plan was doomed as it would have been leaked to the Russians by Trump or one of his bum buddies.
 
As well as being one of the great war time operations in modern history, it was a massive failure of intelligence organisations of not only Russia, but also of the US networks.
Ukraine knows the US is untrustworthy on global security, and Ukraine also knows that if the US was given a "heads up", the plan was doomed as it would have been leaked to the Russians by Trump or one of his bum buddies.

I think there is a greater than zero chance that someone in US intelligence was aware and didn't pass it up the line.
 

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So.. just continuing what they have been doing day in day out

 
5) Caps on Ukraine's military. Far-right units are disbanded.
I'm not sure you want that Russia

You've already lost your Navy to a country without a navy.
And now you've lost your Air Force to a country who didn't have an air force.

If current trends are anything to go by, cutting back Ukraine's army will mean the end of your army.
 
According to SOTA, a truck checkpoint has appeared just outside St Petersburg.
I read a poster on another forum come up with a great idea.

Ukraine should send out a truckload of drones and have it so that are actually found, so that the Russians really panic and keep up the checkpoints around the country for a long time.
 
In February 2022, when Putin announced to the world he was attacking his sovereign neighbour, he said the objective was to "demilitarise" Ukraine.

"But as a result of this three-and-a-half years of aggression, now Russia is becoming demilitarised," Petrov said.

Petrov said it was possible "the network of pro-Ukrainian sympathisers or agents is so significant in Russia that it became a soft target".
 

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I read a poster on another forum come up with a great idea.

Ukraine should send out a truckload of drones and have it so that are actually found, so that the Russians really panic and keep up the checkpoints around the country for a long time.

Put them on railcars. The Russians are more reliant on rail transport than road as the road network is so bad. Slow down rail transit and the whole country grinds to a halt.
 
Also for the vatniks saying its only old planes hit.

Its these planes that are being used to attack Ukraine predominantly.

And the sensitivity of all parties to any attacks on the Tu 160's is due to their role in maintaining the nuclear triad is much higher in practice than the Bears or Backfires.

It is no accident no 160's were lost I am willing to bet, as I believe they deliberately stayed away from them.

The Americans almost set their hair on fire back in May 2024 when Ukraine launched a drone attack on Russian ong range strategic radar sites crucial for nuclear missile defence in Armavir and Orsk. Word was at the time the US gave Ukraine a stern talking to as they remain shitscared about any attack that could be perceived as degrading Russian nuclear command control and defence capacity. Its likely the Blackjacks would trigger similar disquiet.
 
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I always enjoy the creativity of the Uke memes. The tractors, the pilfering of toilets and washing machines, the sunken Moskva, the you didn’t say thank you and you don’t have the cards and now the Russian trucks😆



 
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The media have been talking about a suspected upcoming Russian offensive and the useless peace talks. Three bridges blown up, planes blown up, Kerch Bridge pillar blown up.

Yes there is an offensive going on. Ukraine's on Russia.
 
This is the good get. Two A50 AWACS out of action.

Dont even know if Russia would have any of them left now.

 

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Kerch bridge being attacked.

Reports saying this was done by SBU teams working over months laying 1100kg of explosives.

Russian security is really the pits nowadays……

 
Anyone heard from Barreness?

For some reason always is silent after a Russian military humiliation by Ukraine.

Usually reappears after a mass Russian attack on civilians.
 
Trump has gone AWOL
Wonder what is up?
 
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