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If you believe the Ukrainian negotiators, the last instance quoted Russian history to them, how long do you have?
I asked the question to point out how unrealistic russia’s demands are.
Putin has demanded that Ukrainian troops withdraw from the Donbas region even before the Kremlin will enter into proper negotiations. Even if Ukraine did withdraw from 20 percent of Donetsk that they control there is still no guarentees.

Why should it be Putin’s decision who comes to Ukraine – “it’s up to the Ukrainians".
 
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I wonder if the plan is to cut most of the supply lines into Huliaipole. If they can cut the roads from the North & South where they are making ground it leaves just one main road leading straight out which they can just flood with drones.


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Huge news, Russian front collapsing in occupied Donetsk:




300sq kms is the claimed recaptured territory but that will need further verification because that seems too good to be true.


Seems that the Russians are exhausted. Going backwards is a huge psychological blow to invading fascists even though they've got a huge numerical troop / infantry advantage.


Of course Putin is quiet on this. Whenever Russia is embarrassed on the battlefield he goes quiet for a few days before attempting to genocide Ukranian civilians with a mass barrage of cruise / ballistic missiles along with hundreds of suicide drones targeted at civilians.
 
I asked the question to point out how unrealistic russia’s demands are.
Putin has demanded that Ukrainian troops withdraw from the Donbas region even before the Kremlin will enter into proper negotiations. Even if Ukraine did withdraw from 20 percent of Donetsk that they control there is still no guarentees.

Why should it be Putin’s decision who comes to Ukraine – “it’s up to the Ukrainians".

Yep. Unrealistic demands for an aggressor on their knees is laughable. It isn't negotiating anything.


Russian full withdrawal from everywhere bar Crimea to start with is where negotiations can realistically begin.
 

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Ukranian drone flying around inside a Russian attack drone warehouse, 10,000 Russian attack drones and 10 delivery vehicles denazified by Ukraine:





Our resident vatniks have been having a very, very bad day today inside Ukraine.
 
Ukraine hackers were inside Russian attack drone operations for nearly 6 months:





They couldn't obtain control over them but could see everything that was going on.


That's why Ukraine's been having such a high success rate denazifying Russian drones. The vatniks did find out eventually!



Yet another win for Ukraine with inferior resources. And another huge embarrassment for our resident vatniks.
 
Ukranians really are rewriting the rules of modern warfare. Operating against a cowardly enemy happy to send hoardes of cannon fodder forward to advance small distances they've kept a superpower at bay for nearly 4 years now.


History will remember Ukranians as heroes. Russians will be remembered much the same way Nazi Germany was post WW2.
 



This war is now all about Putin's survival. In every other metric Russia has been smashed to smithereens by this war. Sanctioned, isolated. A disgraced pariah that only human rights abusers, genocidal maniacs and war criminals want to associate with.

On the way to 2 million casualties. Military severely weakened by invasion.


Only a dictator with absolute power could keep Russia's fascist invasion going under such circumstances.


Don't be surprised to see another Wagner style uprising this year.
 
Huge news, Russian front collapsing in occupied Donetsk:




300sq kms is the claimed recaptured territory but that will need further verification because that seems too good to be true.


Seems that the Russians are exhausted. Going backwards is a huge psychological blow to invading fascists even though they've got a huge numerical troop / infantry advantage.


Of course Putin is quiet on this. Whenever Russia is embarrassed on the battlefield he goes quiet for a few days before attempting to genocide Ukranian civilians with a mass barrage of cruise / ballistic missiles along with hundreds of suicide drones targeted at civilians.

Wouldn’t say its collapsing.

The majority of this is due to Starlink being shutdown across the Russian lines so they have been down on communications and the Ukrainians have taken advantage of the chaos generated by this and advanced forward.

Problem is Ukraine don’t have the necessary heavy weaponry to really collapse the Russian lines (thanks US and Europe), so have to do as best as they can until Russia overcome the communication breakdown.
 
I asked the question to point out how unrealistic russia’s demands are.
Putin has demanded that Ukrainian troops withdraw from the Donbas region even before the Kremlin will enter into proper negotiations. Even if Ukraine did withdraw from 20 percent of Donetsk that they control there is still no guarentees.

Why should it be Putin’s decision who comes to Ukraine – “it’s up to the Ukrainians".
Asking Ukrainian troops to withdraw from the Donbas region is liking russia troops to withdraw from moscow.
The Donbas is part of of Ukraine, not russia.
The first thing that Ukraine should be asking before negotiations start is for russian, north korean and chinese troops to withdraw for Ukrainian territory. That should be the starting point.
 

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Huge news, Russian front collapsing in occupied Donetsk:




300sq kms is the claimed recaptured territory but that will need further verification because that seems too good to be true.


Seems that the Russians are exhausted. Going backwards is a huge psychological blow to invading fascists even though they've got a huge numerical troop / infantry advantage.


Of course Putin is quiet on this. Whenever Russia is embarrassed on the battlefield he goes quiet for a few days before attempting to genocide Ukranian civilians with a mass barrage of cruise / ballistic missiles along with hundreds of suicide drones targeted at civilians.


Not showing anything of Deepstate.
 
This financial freefall marks a devastating reversal from its $15 million profit in 2024, signaling that Ukrainian precision strikes are effectively bankrupting Russia’s military-industrial complex.

Unable to maintain complex supply chains for strategic bombers, the plant is reportedly being repurposed to manufacture simple “Molniya” type drones for use on the battlefield.

This forced pivot from elite nuclear carriers to disposable attack drones marks the terminal decline of Russia’s once-formidable aviation industry—a strategic degradation underscored by the latest Defense Express analysis.
 
What an absolutely sick, depraved country:




I can sort of understand why our resident vatniks brains are absolutely fried by Russian fascist propaganda.

I won't call Novosibirsk a garbage town, for the sake of any implants here who might show their hand by acknowledging that's not an insult but a topical reference?

Not the only place that's suffered a мусорный коллапс, hey Bigfooty?
 
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The breakthrough has already yielded significant results, with over 300 square kilometers of territory reclaimed and cleared of Russian sabotage and reconnaissance groups (DRGs).

So far, eight settlements have been liberated as Ukrainian forces continue to tighten their grip on the region.

....military officials emphasize that the “active phase” is still ongoing with more developments expected as the offensive deepens.
 
Ukraine hackers were inside Russian attack drone operations for nearly 6 months:





They couldn't obtain control over them but could see everything that was going on.


That's why Ukraine's been having such a high success rate denazifying Russian drones. The vatniks did find out eventually!



Yet another win for Ukraine with inferior resources. And another huge embarrassment for our resident vatniks.

Lets hope the embarrassement continues for russia, putin and our resident vatniks
 
several Islamic foreign reps have checked out the camps and said they weren't bad.
"Our forced reeducation camps aren't all that bad."

Yeah awesome. Sign me up for a holiday.
 

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"Our forced reeducation camps aren't all that bad."

Yeah awesome. Sign me up for a holiday.
Speaking of a holiday.
China and russia are looking into a program involving exchange students.
russian (really Ukrainian) students will study at “vocational training centres” in China and Chinese (really Uyghur) students will study at “gulag centres” in russia for 4 weeks.
 
I wonder if Vatniks who support Russia's claim to Ukraine keep conveniently forgetting what NovoRossiysk means and that even "New Russia" is outside Ukraine, and is simply the location of their most recent local genocide against the Circassian people.

Ukrainian people know this.
 
Ukranians really are rewriting the rules of modern warfare. Operating against a cowardly enemy happy to send hoardes of cannon fodder forward to advance small distances they've kept a superpower at bay for nearly 4 years now.


History will remember Ukranians as heroes. Russians will be remembered much the same way Nazi Germany was post WW2.
It wont be same as the russians wont fall like the nazis. Not as long as they have thousands of nuclear warheads. Thats the only reason the west hasnt rushed in and never will. Russia is with us in its current shape until they get another gorbachev. Good luck on that happening twice.
 
Speaking of a holiday.
China and russia are looking into a program involving exchange students.
russian (really Ukrainian) students will study at “vocational training centres” in China and Chinese (really Uyghur) students will study at “gulag centres” in russia for 4 weeks.

And they all get to holiday at a summer camp in Pyongyang.
 

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