Europe War in Ukraine - Thread 5 - thread rules updated

[GhostofJimJess]

Another thing that amazes me about this conflict is the way a kid in NZ has accurate info on stuff like this ahead of time,

Well, they are two hours ahead of us

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Also found out Ilya Prusikin of Little Big (the original Skibidi prior to shit memes by children) is listed as a foreign agent so I guess his wavering finally fell on the right side.

Odd that he wavered, when I couldn't imagine his explicit style of lyrics ever being approved of by the Putin regime, even if he never mentioned politics or war.

 

[Mobbs]

Odd that he wavered, when I couldn't imagine his explicit style of lyrics ever being approved of by the Putin regime, even if he never mentioned politics or war.

I think he probably just wasn't feeling safe to say much out loud. For someone whose dick is big his dick is very big you'd think he'd have more bravado!

Shnur from Leningrad is pretty similar. I think we can read between the lines that he's no fan of Russia's invasion.

 

[wannabejack]

Russia recalls Armenia ambassador over EU ties

The recall comes a day after Putin warned Armenia against seeking EU membership and alluded to the "Ukrainian scenario." Armenia historically has strong ties with Russia but has pivoted toward the West in recent years.

www.dw.com

The statement comes a day after Russian President Vladimir Putin tied the dispute with Armenia to what he called the "Ukrainian scenario," saying that Moscow's military confrontation with Kyiv began after Ukraine began to seek closer ties to the European Union.

Yerevan froze its membership in the Russian-led Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) in 2024, saying that in not defending Armenia from Azerbaijan, member states effectively failed to honor mutual defense obligations.

While Armenia has not formally applied for EU candidacy yet, Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan's government has declared its intention to make a membership bid.

While Armenia has not formally applied for EU candidacy yet, Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan's government has declared its intention to make a membership bid.

Armenia has also agreed to a US-brokered peace deal to normalize its relations with Azerbaijan and establish an economic transit corridor that would allow Baku to connect to its exclave of Nakhchivan.

 

[Visions]

Romania have at least named Russia as the culprit for an unintentional strike, which is one step better than the UN does with intentional ones.

Romania also closing Russia's diplomatic office and telling its Russian tenant to **** off.

 

[Visions]

Is there any better sight than Russian terrorist soldiers scurrying for their lives?



Russian anti aircraft not exactly doing its job as intended.

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[Visions]

Russia winning even more. Instead of using government funds to protect his oil revenue, Putin has resorted to scamming private companies allowing them to purchase heavy weaponry like anti aircraft systems and turrets to protect oil refineries, office buildings, etc. But the weapons will then be transferred direct to military units themselves.

Those private companies become legitimate military targets now.

Russia Lets Private Firms Buy Heavy Weapons to Defend Sites From Drone Attacks – RBC - The Moscow Times

Russian authorities have approved a mechanism allowing private companies to purchase heavy weaponry to defend industrial facilities against drone attacks, the RBC news website reported Thursday, citing sources linked to the Defense Ministry.

www.themoscowtimes.com

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Russia recalls Armenia ambassador over EU ties

The recall comes a day after Putin warned Armenia against seeking EU membership and alluded to the "Ukrainian scenario." Armenia historically has strong ties with Russia but has pivoted toward the West in recent years.

www.dw.com

The statement comes a day after Russian President Vladimir Putin tied the dispute with Armenia to what he called the "Ukrainian scenario," saying that Moscow's military confrontation with Kyiv began after Ukraine began to seek closer ties to the European Union.

Yerevan froze its membership in the Russian-led Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) in 2024, saying that in not defending Armenia from Azerbaijan, member states effectively failed to honor mutual defense obligations.

While Armenia has not formally applied for EU candidacy yet, Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan's government has declared its intention to make a membership bid.

While Armenia has not formally applied for EU candidacy yet, Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan's government has declared its intention to make a membership bid.

Armenia has also agreed to a US-brokered peace deal to normalize its relations with Azerbaijan and establish an economic transit corridor that would allow Baku to connect to its exclave of Nakhchivan.

People often cite the quote popularly attributed to Henry Kissinger, "it may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal". And that quote rings very true for America, but at this point I'm convinced it applies equally to Russia. It's been dangerous to be Ukraine, facing the might of the Russian army, but fatal to be Ba'athist Syria or Nagorno-Karabakh, dependent on Russian military support that never came. The same looks to be happening in the Alliance of Sahel States after they kicked out the French and embraced the Russian military, who seem to be losing the fight against jihadists and Tuareg separatists.

Armenia has realised since the loss of Nagorno-Karabakh that they absolutely cannot depend on Russia, and joining the same broad military alliance as Azerbaijan and Turkiye might the only way to avoid being carved up by them. Russia has shown it certainly won't intervene to save them.

I would do exactly the same thing in Armenia's shoes. What is Russia going to do, invade them? While this could happen via the territory of Russia's lackeys in Georgia, Russia has their hands full in Ukraine right now, and starting a second concurrent foreign invasion would be as stupid as when the US did it in 2003. I imagine it's a less scary prospect for Armenia than being hammer-and-anvilled by Azerbaijan and Turkiye.

 

[Andre]

So Trump went from "Wouldn't have been a war if I was president" to "I will solve it in 24 hours when I am president" to 17 months later just giving up.

Who would have thunk it?

When his '24 hour plan' was 'tell Ukraine to do everything Russia asks for and expect them to comply' I'm shocked, shocked I tell you, that it didn't work

 

[Andre]

One thing about this conflict is that the Ukranians always have something happening or about to happen that's going to inflict defeat on Russia.

That's arse about. Russia has been proclaiming since 2022 that their victory is inevitable and every setback, slow advance etc. doesn't count and 'Ukraine should just surrender immediately, to save themselves more losses'. With a bit of 'wait until Russia stops fighting with one hand tied behind their back and throws everything at them!' thrown in.

The reality is it's more than 4 years after the 3 day SMO started, Russia's lost ground either every month this year, or did in April (depending on your source) and most sources have them as more casualties (KIA, wounded, captured and MIA) then recruited the last 3 months.

Few expect this means Russia is going to collapse in the next month or two, but when you're losing ground (even if small amounts) and having less meat to throw in the grinder month by month, Russia is going to continue going backwards or be forced to do a 'real' mobilisation. The emptying of prisons, pressuring of Uni students and recruitment bonuses have been tapped out.

With Orban gone and the 90 billion Euro loan money coming in, Ukraine's economy is set for the next couple of years and military equipment continues to be pledged (E.g. more Gripens the other day), even as Ukraine becomes more self-sufficient in all but the highest end equipment. Russia can't force Ukraine to capitulate by economic means.

This war is continuing through at least 2027, unless either Putin dies (by natural causes or 'an unfortunate fall out of a window'), Trump is under enough pressure post-midterms to get US aid flowing again or Europe realises 'avoiding escalation' every time Russia deliberately provokes them (I.e. latest drone strike in Romania) only encourages more and ups aid and starts shooting down drones near their borders and slowly increases the range covered. None of which unfortunately are likely as one's a paranoid germaphobe, one's a dementia ridden narcissist and Europeans (with a few exceptions like Kaja Kallis ) sleep with the light on.

 

[Zidane98]

That is an incredible total in one week



Lucky for Ukrainians that their army does everything possible to protect citizens from aerial bombardment massacres.

 

[CD Xbow]

.....None of which unfortunately are likely as one's a paranoid germaphobe, one's a dementia ridden narcissist and Europeans (with a few exceptions like Kaja Kallis ) sleep with the light on.

It's no accident that the name 'Kaja Kallis' appeared in a sentence containing the words 'sleep with', is it?

 

[Visions]

What Putin didn’t put in context was that the biggest advance every day was in the direction back to the Russian borders….

 

[TedDougChris]

What Putin didn’t put in context was that the biggest advance every day was in the direction back to the Russian borders….

 

[wannabejack]

When his '24 hour plan' was 'tell Ukraine to do everything Russia asks for and expect them to comply' I'm shocked, shocked I tell you, that it didn't work

Funny how Trump’s plan was the same plan as our vatnik’s plan. Cognitive synchronization?

 

[SLF]

Zelensky's decision to name military unit after WWII-era Ukrainian Insurgent Army sparks outrage in Poland

The decree entered into force on May 26 and was adopted "with the aim of reviving the historical traditions of the national army," President Volodymyr Zelensky said.

kyivindependent.com

Zelenskyy appears to be on a roll of annoying friendly nations by honouring WW2 OUN types.



Why is he doing this now? Twice in a week.