WCE Player Refusing Vaccination

[Miguel Sanchez]

I don't think there should be any lockdown and people should get the jab if they want it or not, but if not there should be no restrictions on them. Also the jabs should keep getting worked on so they are more effective

Well the modeling would suggest that approach results in many, many deaths.

 

[faible]

Well the modeling real world examples from numerous countries would suggest that approach results in many, many deaths.

FTFY

 

[thedank]

Enough vaccine talk, let's discuss the real issue here: when are we turning china into rubble?

 

[matthew_s]

So why do some jabs stop you from contracting the illness and others don't?

ask whoever dresses you in the morning

 

[Fabab]

ask whoever dresses you in the morning

Brilliant my favourite post in a long time.

 

[Fabab]

I don't think there should be any lockdown and people should get the jab if they want it or not, but if not there should be no restrictions on them. Also the jabs should keep getting worked on so they are more effective

Thank funk you are not in a position of influence on these matters.

 

[WilloTree]

I don't think there should be any lockdown and people should get the jab if they want it or not, but if not there should be no restrictions on them. Also the jabs should keep getting worked on so they are more effective

I don't think you actually believe this.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

I don't think you actually believe this.

I strongly suspect you’re giving him too much credit

 

[cottoneyeYeo]

This was news about two months ago

 

[Sentinel]

So why do some jabs stop you from contracting the illness and others don't?

Why do some drugs help my headache and some just give me a stiffy for hours on end? They're both drugs aren't they.

When I open my medicine cabinet I don't even look at what packet I'm opening, why should I? As long as it's a drug it should work in exactly the same way as the others.

 

[pride of the West]

Mz
Mate no matter how shots you have had it doesn’t not stop from being infected with the virus! Ok there nothing will stop you getting it why is other countries in the world getting tens of thousands cases then.

 

[matthew_s]

Mz

Mate no matter how shots you have had it doesn’t not stop from being infected with the virus! Ok there nothing will stop you getting it why is other countries in the world getting tens of thousands cases then.

moron.

 

[HairyO]

You should compare the rate at which non obese and not sickly people in the age range die of covid.

It is almost 0.

Total population fatality rate for that age is mostly obese people.

Its also the age group that is most likely to spread it.

 

[cherrypie]

Title: WCE Player Refusing Vaccination

Thread: WCE Supporter Refusing Logic

 

[azlou]

Mz

Mate no matter how shots you have had it doesn’t not stop from being infected with the virus! Ok there nothing will stop you getting it why is other countries in the world getting tens of thousands cases then.

BERLIN — The University Hospital of Giessen, one of Germany’s foremost clinics for pulmonary disease, is at capacity. The number of Covid-19 patients has tripled in recent weeks. Nearly half of them are on ventilators.

And every single one is unvaccinated.

“I ask every patient: Why didn’t you get vaccinated?” said Dr. Susanne Herold, head of infectious diseases, after her daily round on the ward on Thursday. “It’s a mix of people who distrust the vaccine, distrust the state and are often difficult to reach by public information campaigns.”

Patients like hers are the main drivers of a fourth wave of Covid-19 cases in Germany that has produced tens of thousands of new daily infections — more than the country has had at any point in the pandemic.

 

[VinnieB]

Have heard a rumour that an important eagles player is choosing not to be vaccinated at this point.

He has been in constant dialogue with the club who are trying to educate as best as possible however the player hasn't budged at this stage.

Mods, happy for you to remove if you don't think this belongs.

I thought Rioli brought his teddy bear and switched arms

 

[snagbreac]

There are a lot of people claiming to be medical experts on here and quoting sites. Research/professors can say anything they want. It means nothing.

Vaccines have saved lives. People were mandated to get others in the past. Measles is just one example. People are now suddenly worried because someone is telling them to be worried. If people you knew all started of a disease and your children died and your friend's children died, then you wouldn't care what type of vaccine it was, you'd get it. Few would resist.

The unvaccinated are less worried about diseases and instead didn't get it because of Facebook or some other dishonourable source. If they were really worried about the government and control then they wouldn't do a lot of things they do now. Ditch your phone, ditch your email: ditch anything that anyone can track you. If you think the government is killing people, you're doing them a big favour by not getting vaccinated as you can help chip off the populations in nursing homes. We have an aged care crisis, don't we.

If you're worried about what's in things, that should be the end of all the unhealthy foods. Then comes the medicine, household carcinogens, smokes, alcohol ... the list is endless. So it's hypocrisy.

Quote this, dislike it, lol, whatever. I really don't care. But to be perfectly honest, COVID-19 is going to be judged by future generations as a joke. "Fancy not getting something to save your life." "Did people really think that?" Oh and you say it won't happen. Well, they thought HIV was contagious, being gay was curable, disability was a punishment from God, smoking cured cancer, smoking was good for you, chocolate was a wonder drug ... these aren't even the best examples of loony medical knowledge.

 

[1990crow]

See this statement right here? It's bullshit.

I was 27 when I first got covid. Quite fit playing sport etc.

18 months later and I am still getting chest infections and am still progressing back to fitness that may or may not happen.

 

[Dhoni Dakurri]

My money is on Tim Kelly

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[JEagle]

Culture

More like personal medical choice. It's a real thing. Disclosure, I am fully vaccinated, but still support the rights of others to refuse it.

 

[Dhoni Dakurri]

More like personal medical choice. It's a real thing. Disclosure, I am fully vaccinated, but still support the rights of others to refuse it.

Why?

 

[The 747]

More like personal medical choice. It's a real thing. Disclosure, I am fully vaccinated, but still support the rights of others to refuse it.

It's irrelevant. The AFL rule is the AFL rule. Don't like it get another job.

 

[snagbreac]

It's irrelevant. The AFL rule is the AFL rule. Don't like it get another job.

They don't really have a choice. If they're going to be travelling, then all players need to vaccinated. It's not them, it's the airlines, etc because no one wants to put themselves at liability if someone catches COVID on their flight or hotel, etc. People would sue if their grandmother caught it and died so sure, young people might get lucky but it's not just them. It's the old people. Our economy is circular, it involves all demographics.

As for vaccines in general, do we really want to be saying fat rip to a bunch of grannies and grandpas at the nursing homes where COVID spreads like wildfire? Probably not. It's not good to have people dying. Which they do if you don't get vaccinated.

This debate has honestly been hilarious listening to some chime in with some interesting knowledge, that's for sure.

 

[Dhoni Dakurri]

Statistically the chance of dying from Covid is about the same for this group as it is for having an adverse reaction to one of these vaccines. Therefore it is a legiitimate choice. Forcing people is bullsht. I have taken both shots w out being forced, but I'll be damned if i support this kind of overreach by our "authorities"

Wait, so because having an “adverse reaction” to the vaccine is about the same as actually dying from Covid you’re choosing to not get the jab? [emoji23][emoji23]

I actually like this intellect. Natural selection wins.

 

[JEagle]

Why?

The removal of freedoms always start with little things and always for your safety via fear. If you're parents were born in an ex communist country you would understand the cynicism.

Wait, so because having an “adverse reaction” to the vaccine is about the same as actually dying from Covid you’re choosing to not get the jab? [emoji23][emoji23]

I actually like this intellect. Natural selection wins.

Nice try, I have both jabs already. I just don't think someone who doesn't want them is dumb, unlike yourself. For example, the science around natural immunity is crystal clear, yet those who have had Covid are still being forced to double vacc.

Forcing anyone to take any medicine they don't want is wrong, even if it might (and the science there is spurious) put others at risk.

It's amazing what people put up with when they are in fear.