we need a Ruckman

[Bojangles17]

although we have started to show marked improvement in alot of areas, up forward, down back and more midfield options, an area of concern is in the rucks. Our work at centre bounce is second rate at best and going down hill fast with simmo battling form and Patto's progress beginning to hit the wall. Port had the upper hand last week and v the Blues it was the beginning of the end.

I'm almost certain that Cartledge will get a chance to show his wares, whilst in the short term Gus should get a call up, word is he is working into some fine VFL form, time to give him a run prob at expense of Patto and see if we can turn around our clearance workrates

 

[Blueinblood]

No shit sherlock.
As do we

 

[CoggaRules]

i am sorry to say this ...he tries hard and all that stuff that tigers do, but patto aint gunna cut it....just to awkward and for the life of me, cant understand how or what got him the nod from the brains trust in the draft at the pick they got him at...aint gunna be a CHF aint gunna be CHB, definetely aint gunna be a ruck...so is just treading water and wasting out time..the sooner we cut our losses the better..

 

[peejay]

i am sorry to say this ...he tries hard and all that stuff that tigers do, but patto aint gunna cut it....just to awkward and for the life of me, cant understand how or what got him the nod from the brains trust in the draft at the pick they got him at...aint gunna be a CHF aint gunna be CHB, definetely aint gunna be a ruck...so is just treading water and wasting out time..the sooner we cut our losses the better..

He was the hope for a CHF when we drafted him - i can remember seeing him take 17 marks (or was it 14) in a game early on at the burgers at CHF.

Just has not got the body for that position yet - question is will he ever?

 

[CoggaRules]

He was the hope for a CHF when we drafted him - i can remember seeing him take 17 marks (or was it 14) in a game early on at the burgers at CHF.

Just has not got the body for that position yet - question is will he ever?

dont think its about the body peejay...just hasnt got what it takes man....like is as goofy as they come and at CHF you aint gunna do shit being a goof ball..

 

[UpTheGuts]

Put it this way... Simmonds' form nosedives and by this stage next year he doesn't warrant a spot.

We'd be Kangaroo Edward....

 

[TigerCleavage]

He works hard and you know he really wants to make it, my guess is his only hope would be to play out of the goal square and cover the ruck while our main ruckman (whoever that will be) is on the bench having a spell. he's not a bad shot at goal. and can take a mark. Maybe just not fast enough to lead out.

 

[The Rusty Trombone]

Dont worry about Patto , due to our Ruck stocks being low he has been in a fortunate position to get 50 odd games that he shouldn't have that will only serve him better in the future when he is able to play up forward on a regular basis.

You are correct we do need another ruckman or 2 but I'm sure that will be addressed in the off season. I'm sick of seeing our mid field get zapped week in and week out as well.

 

[Richo Rules]

if you go and read some other threads you will see we are apperantly after warnock of freo

 

[Ruanaidh]

Having missed out on the opportunity to get Natanui they'd better have a back-up plan. Let's hope the mooted Warnock deal was true.

 

[Ancient Tiger]

Patto is NOT a ruckman. He is a centre half forward. He has many strengths, including marking, blocking, shepherding and his handballs are generally very constructive. His kicking has improved out of sight but he still looks awkward. His main problem playing forward is his pace off the mark. Maybe some work like Simmo did over the preseason with a sprint coach may help. The good thing is he is willing to work hard at improving himself. When you have that trait, you can eventually overcome most hurdles. The one thing he cannot do is get taller to be a genuine ruckman.

He was highly rated in the draft as he got the coaches award for their best player in 2004.

Patto is not our main problem and he always gives 100%. He is still very young too as big men usually take longer to blossom. Lade did not get recognized as a great ruckman till his late 20's.

 

[Bojangles17]

Patto is not a bad second or third option, he'll never make a KPP im afraid, simply not enough tricks in the kit bag. if we were to snare a ruckman that was great at the hitouts then Patto would be adequate support act at this stage he is expected to fill the breach for simmos poor form and it is our archilles for sure.

 

[krustyman]

patto is too skinny and slow for a chf, maybe he can be a ff if he bulk up. he isnt that good at the ruck, but does better around the gound on his day.

 

[richoatthedisco]

No way is Patto a CHF. He's as slow off the mark as a bus being push-started. He impressed IN THE RUCK in u/18s. I love his heart but yeah, I'm not sure about him. And I wish Tambling would stop handballing to him when he's standing still! Glaciers get moving quicker.

 

[Yoda_]

Laycock any body, where is meyer at, any other players you can offer the bombers, would be interesting to see who Richmonds 'Trade Bait' is, not rejects but actual bait is, where is danny meyer at, have asked before, any small quick defenders you dont need. Alex Rance maybe, just asking the hard questions.

 

[Brooksy88]

ahhh don't think rance will be available anytime soon mate.

Warnock is already being a pr!ck to us, playing so well we're gonna have to give up a 2nd rounder at least for him (would have been a swap for a 3rd pick at seasons start)

 

[JDC!]

I would definately swap a second rounder for Warnock.

 

[mattypsafc13]

the freo board think they will get a first round draft pick 4 him (dreamers)


arnt there a few decent rucks in this yrs draft
ive been hearing big raps on mckernan

 

[richoatthedisco]

Laycock any body, where is meyer at, any other players you can offer the bombers, would be interesting to see who Richmonds 'Trade Bait' is, not rejects but actual bait is, where is danny meyer at, have asked before, any small quick defenders you dont need. Alex Rance maybe, just asking the hard questions.

Yeah, you can have Jake King.

 

[AlexRance]

We've got three options we have Pattison,Cartledge and Angus Graham out of these backup ruckman the best would be Cartledge but I think we should keep Pattison in the side

 

[Kurtis G]

Pitty Knobels body didnt hold up, he was a better second option than patto in my opinion. Still wasnt that great though.

Simmonds seems to have awesome potential but never grabs a match. I dont think he has had a good a game as when beat Freo at the G in his first season with us. Was tipped for a massive year this year but, while ;laying average, isnt matching quality ruckman in our opposition and cant seem to take a mark up forward to save himself.

We need stafford back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[patto_man]

i think simmonds should take 50% or less of the ruck. because he has a good leap when hes fresh but when he gets tired he doesnt jump at all or jumps to early. Cartledge could come in and take some of the load or graham and send patto to mcdonalds then the gym

 

[LuKe2428]

although we have started to show marked improvement in alot of areas, up forward, down back and more midfield options, an area of concern is in the rucks. Our work at centre bounce is second rate at best and going down hill fast with simmo battling form and Patto's progress beginning to hit the wall. Port had the upper hand last week and v the Blues it was the beginning of the end.

I'm almost certain that Cartledge will get a chance to show his wares, whilst in the short term Gus should get a call up, word is he is working into some fine VFL form, time to give him a run prob at expense of Patto and see if we can turn around our clearance workrates

Gus played a really solid game in the VFL on the weekend best ruckman on the ground imo
keep up the good work gus

 

[Richo Rules]

Laycock any body, where is meyer at, any other players you can offer the bombers, would be interesting to see who Richmonds 'Trade Bait' is, not rejects but actual bait is, where is danny meyer at, have asked before, any small quick defenders you dont need. Alex Rance maybe, just asking the hard questions.

Meyer has had bad hip problems pretty much since coming to tigerland
he has had surgery and i think he has just played his 2nd or 3rd game for coburg on the weekend
so its hard to know what richmond will do with him
i would think they would give him another year as hawks were keen on swapping for him last year
could be a gun if injuires disapeared

 

[tucker777]

King on foley's shoulders

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