Welsh, Crows part ways

[JSFish]

I know there's already a thread talking about him, but it's just been made official that he will leave the crows and apply for the psd.

http://www.afl.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=53197

ADELAIDE forward Scott Welsh will nominate for the NAB AFL pre-season draft after turning down a one-year contract offered by the Crows.
Welsh, 28, was on a performance-based contract this season and earned a one-year extension after topping Adelaide’s goalkicking.
He was pushing for a new one-year deal with the option of a second year dependent on his form and off-field behaviour.
The Crows ordered Welsh perform behaviour counselling this year after the goalsneak was involved in an incident outside a city nightclub in September.
Adelaide football manager John Reid suggested the incident contributed to the Crows’ decision not to meet Welsh’s demands.
“The club is disappointed the negotiations couldn’t be resolved,” Reid said.
“Unfortunately the behaviour issues this year were significant to the point that the club believed Scott needed to have a season where there were no behavioural issues at all before it would negotiate another season.”
A talented but injury-prone goalkicker, Welsh played 129 games for Adelaide including 21 in 2007. He also played 36 games for the Kangaroos before returning to his hometown, citing family reasons, in 2000.

Welsh becomes the third player to quit the Crows this year, after ruckmen Ben Hudson and John Meesen.

 

[Drunken Wookie]

Pass. We shouldn't be taking short-term players who are going to make us look better then what we are. If none of our young forwards start to kick on next year we're pretty well buggered and need the picks the lower rungs of the ladder provide.

 

[reeko]

No way Wallace said he is only looking for young players to grow with the group.

 

[JSFish]

Yeah I agree with you both, we should go for a younger player. Just thought I'd put it out there that he is available

 

[_RT_]

Apparently the Dogs have already agreed to a deal for 2 years and will look at taking him with their PSD pick. Only issue is will he last until they pick. Both Carlton and Melbourne could use him, we could as well but I think at 29 he is too old for us.

 

[Bojangles17]

pass, Kent Kingsley Mark II

 

[reeko]

Theres also another angle to this if Wallace thinks his job is on the line if we dont make the finals next year, he might grab welsh although i think wallace is secure until the end of 2009 anyway.

 

[Crumden]

Apparently the Dogs have already agreed to a deal for 2 years and will look at taking him with their PSD pick. Only issue is will he last until they pick. Both Carlton and Melbourne could use him, we could as well but I think at 29 he is too old for us.

Can't see Melbourne being too interested with Neitz and Robertson. Carlton said last year they won't take anyone under 25. Wallace hasn't said so as directly but he has made a few comments along those lines. Too old and doesn't fill a need for us.

 

[Gets!]

pass, Kent Kingsley Mark II

Are you kidding me?

Welsh is about 4 times the player Kingsley ever was.

Just because they are around the same height and same style player, doesn't mean they are of the same inferior quality!

 

[_Wang_]

Are you kidding me?

Welsh is about 4 times the player Kingsley ever was.

Just because they are around the same height and same style player, doesn't mean they are of the same inferior quality!

Agreed
Probably not what we need now though.
I have a lot of time for Welsh

 

[jezza]

Are you kidding me?

Welsh is about 4 times the player Kingsley ever was.

Just because they are around the same height and same style player, doesn't mean they are of the same inferior quality!

Stats suggest they are very similar in their output so you're grossly exaggerating there.

I would say no to Welsh on the basis that he only plays one or two blinders a year, naturally against Richmond. If he was to play for us, then he won't have any standout games.

 

[Crumden]

Are you kidding me?

Welsh is about 4 times the player Kingsley ever was.

Just because they are around the same height and same style player, doesn't mean they are of the same inferior quality!

Over the course of their careers, I'd rank them about the same.

 

[richcogs]

Are you kidding me?

Welsh is about 4 times the player Kingsley ever was.

Just because they are around the same height and same style player, doesn't mean they are of the same inferior quality!

You overrate him tremendously, stats are VERY much the same. no thank you. Not worthy of a spot on ANY AFL list.

 

[ize_]

He's in career best form FFS! We might only get 2 or 3 years out of him but it is the PRE SEASON DRAFT, what can we expect? He wouldn't have the best or second best defender like at Adelaide. Richo, Browny, Welsh, Pettifer and Deledio, with Jack learning the ropes.... pretty potent if you ask me.

 

[Gets!]

Over the course of their careers, I'd rank them about the same.

Shocking call.

 

[Gets!]

You overrate him tremendously, stats are VERY much the same. no thank you. Not worthy of a spot on ANY AFL list.

Would make Richmond's first 18 every week for the next few years.

Not worthy of a spot on any AFL list?

Are you insane?!?!?! He kicked 50 goals last year! Unbelievable.

You victorians are so obsessed with age it's not funny, I have never been a massive wrap on Welsh but he has talent and you don't magically lose that just because you turn 29, from being 28 or whatever.

 

[marco polo]

I would rather we look at picking up another, much younger player who has also left the AFC this offseason. I believe he's training with us.

Provided of course that the coaching staff believe he has the ability and mind-set to make it as an AFL footballer.

 

[Madtiger2006]

pass, Kent Kingsley Mark II

welsh is a top player. Stupid call

 

[tony_montana]

Would make Richmond's first 18 every week for the next few years.

Not worthy of a spot on any AFL list?

Are you insane?!?!?! He kicked 50 goals last year! Unbelievable.

You victorians are so obsessed with age it's not funny, I have never been a massive wrap on Welsh but he has talent and you don't magically lose that just because you turn 29, from being 28 or whatever.

Dont worry about them, there are some ridiculous comments posted on this board. Welsh has more talent in one finger than KK has as a whole, blind freddy can tell u that, having said that PASS, not what we should be looking for

 

[TigerHunter]

pass, Kent Kingsley Mark II

Welsh is a better option than richo or browny.

 

[hagansbull]

pass, Kent Kingsley Mark II

surely he's not that bad, but I concur, must be someone better suited to long term plan, I hope. Always went alright against us though.

 

[Bojangles17]

Are you kidding me?

Welsh is about 4 times the player Kingsley ever was.

Just because they are around the same height and same style player, doesn't mean they are of the same inferior quality!

how many goals has he kicked , my guess is prob about the same

 

[Mr Anderson]

Welsh is a better option than richo or browny.

... oh ... kay...

Partying with Ben Cousins, are you?

 

[ize_]

Kingsley got good all of a sudden about 4 years ago. That's it. Welsh has always been good, and is coming off CAREER BEST FORM. Kingsley was coming off not getting a game all year when we picked him up.

 

[Mr Anderson]

Kingsley got good all of a sudden about 4 years ago. That's it. Welsh has always been good, and is coming off CAREER BEST FORM. Kingsley was coming off not getting a game all year when we picked him up.

True. Probably he is a better player than Kant Kicksley. However he is 29, has rarely played a full season due to injury and has some off field baggage. He has also been a product of the Adelaide style of play, which is a complete opposite to the style the Tigers seemed to be trying to develop at the end of last season, and so his success there may not translate well particularly given the erratic (albeit improving) midfield delivery he would most likely get.

I hope he continues his career somewhere (I am sure he has received offers for a 2 year deal from someone ?Bulldogs, otherwise he wouldn't have walked out on the Crows), just not with the Tigers. Thin though the PSD pool may be, I can't see him offering a real benefit and his presence in the side will be at the expense of someone like Jack Reiwoldt, which would stunt a young player's development.