Roast What do we do?

[docko911]

So our coach has finally conceded that the season is over....

Team selection this week has just become extremely important in relation to the future of this club that promised its supporters a full rebuild.

If we get to the selection table this week and minimal changes are made and/or players like Chaplin, A.Moore, Batchelor are getting selected what do we do?

The sack the coach doesn't seem to be on the table.

How can we force our club to make reasonable selection decisions to ensure that this season wasn't a complete waste?

 

[Hans McGregor]

Online petition? Organise a group to all write letters (constructive letters - not just blasting them so the message gets through)?

 

[Tiges1229]

keep drinking

 

[BF Tiger]

Rest of season...
Play the youngsters
Jack at high FF
Beat Essendon
Beat Collingwood
Beat St Kilda

End of season...
Replace Hardwick.
Move on a bunch of players.
Attempt to trade some others.
New football department.

 

[Frustrated Tiger]

Upgrade Chol....who cares if he's not ready....just play kids now.

 

[SumTingWong]

Griffiths as 1st ruck
Elton at FB when he comes back
Lennon as a forward
Vlastuin as a mid
Short as a forward
McBean forward
Drummond at hb
Markov at hb
Castagna anywhere

Grimes Elton Drummond
Markov Rance Conca
Ellis Cotchin Menadue
Deledio Riewoldt Lennon
Short McBean Rioli
Griffiths Vlastuin Martin
Castagna Miles Edwards Grigg

 

[This Is Anfield]

We stick fat, back our boys in until the cows come home and we'll be cherry ripe for 2017.

 

[Gentlemen]

We stick fat, back our boys in until the cows come home and we'll be cherry ripe for 2017.

Calls for a full rebuild are kneejerk reactions are will honestly just cause more pain in the long run.

What we need to do is transition in players, get Castagna in for Lambert, try a 2 tall forward line, give some players that have earned it debuts and continue playing CEllis/Rioli/Short/Menadue.

I do agree Hardwick's time is up, but to cull the list now would be silly and childish.

 

[richolovesgoal]

Francis Jackson/Blair Hartley simply have to be the first to go.

In what other job can you consistently fail and keep your position?

 

[SpudsLoveChild]

Its pretty obvious that we are carrying players that will never make us contenders for a flag.

Having so many players coming off contract at the end of year suggests the club knows it as well.

There's also talk of reviewing all positions in the FD - so its pretty obvious that the club knows that doing nothing and hoping for success is not an option.

 

[TigerImposter]

With just over 9 months to the season 2017 bounce the RFC needs to source new physical conditioning staff and get the boys up to an acceptable physical standard. Then they need to work on hard tackling skills followed by a new game plan. The RFC has been wishy washy if not neglectful in all these areas.
Unless these changes are made it doesn't matter whether Yarran Houli or Prestia come in we won't improve simply bc we're physically weak and we don't hurt the opposition physically.
I don't want to see the club doing ****y little giggling training sketches anymore. I want these blokes to hurt for success and to be all on the same page for attaining success.
The bar is too low and our boys have NI of what it takes to be successful , but doing hard work in the gym would be a start.

 

[Tiger Claw]

Its pretty obvious that we are carrying players that will never make us contenders for a flag.

Having so many players coming off contract at the end of year suggests the club knows it as well.

There's also talk of reviewing all positions in the FD - so its pretty obvious that the club knows that doing nothing and hoping for success is not an option.

This.

On reviewing positions in the FD, I had the feeling that this was decided last year. Something Peggy said about needing to have better people around Dimma? Anyway I waited to see this occur in the off season but not much happened on that score. I then thought I'd heard/read this was because they had to wait for contracts to run out.

When it comes to clear outs I'm hoping we go hard to get the best for our FD come years end.

Don't think we'll clear out our list. Will hold some current 22 for depth. Will trade some talent out. Think most will go from our sorry looking 'depth'

 

[NaturalDisaster]

With just over 9 months to the season 2017 bounce the RFC needs to source new physical conditioning staff and get the boys up to an acceptable physical standard. Then they need to work on hard tackling skills followed by a new game plan. The RFC has been wishy washy if not neglectful in all these areas.
Unless these changes are made it doesn't matter whether Yarran Houli or Prestia come in we won't improve simply bc we're physically weak and we don't hurt the opposition physically.
I don't want to see the club doing ****y little giggling training sketches anymore. I want these blokes to hurt for success and to be all on the same page for attaining success.
The bar is too low and our boys have NI of what it takes to be successful , but doing hard work in the gym would be a start.

I don't think training sketches are an issue, having two big injuries during training shows one thing...The boys train hard... I don't think having the odd funny moment is detrimental, in fact its a good thing to avoid burn out etc... If they are doing it every 5 minutes, then I would understand..

also I think you guys are misunderstanding the OP..he is querying hat us as supporters need to do to get some sort of change, not the club..

 

[TigerImposter]

I don't think training sketches are an issue, having two big injuries during training shows one thing...The boys train hard... I don't think having the odd funny moment is detrimental, in fact its a good thing to avoid burn out etc... If they are doing it every 5 minutes, then I would understand..

also I think you guys are misunderstanding the OP..he is querying hat us as supporters need to do to get some sort of change, not the club..

It was mentioned on SEN every time the news goes to RFC training drill the boys are giggling and carrying on. This was only a minor point in my post as I want them to work seriously on getting their bodies up to size

 

[tugga]

We can hold a referendum and call it #rexit

 

[deliberate!!]

I don't post often here now because I have been trying to apply the long-winded and pointless supporter and club theory that 'patience and time' solves all a club's problems. Well, I've sat back, put on the 'patience mask' and watched as we've failed to achieve after a very long Hardwick tenure. We have failed as supporters looking in, all caused by the club failing us in numerous areas.

It's time for change. Waiting with fingers crossed and praying for the right people in the right positions has not worked. It's the right time now, this month, to prepare for Season 2017. The people that are grooming our players, their selection, their training, their game style have failed us. I'm a paid up full member and have been for decades. I have supported AND paid to support the club long before Peggy, Benny or Dimma even viewed a Richmond game or walked into Punt Road. I have seen our great eras. I have seen what has now happened to our club. We are a mess. Everybody directly involved with this current playing group has failed us and turned this team into mush, our culture into a pale shadow of itself, and turned the once ferocious Tiger heart into a poor beige replica. Nobody fears us. We are an AFL joke. The only group at the RFC that has performed since 1980, become stronger and fearless, is our supporter base. In numbers, we now need to call the shots loudly. Our supporter money is employing people to embarrass us.

This week:

• Peggy & Benny need to sack all those involved with any past drafting and construct a new, modern Drafting Department. If you have to pay top dollar for a fresh set of people....do it. We immediately need a fresh, hungry Drafting Department for 2017, starting within the next couple of weeks.
• Damian Hardwick needs to be released from his contract NOW...This week (pay him out). This team is not being coached now. Hardwick is in preservation mode, the RFC is in implosion mode. The excuses are over. 'Dimma's Dissection' need to be buried away in our history now. Immediately replace Hardwick with ANY temp Coach until Seasons end. The club needs rebooting, a rebirth. We are stale. Every Coaching process from now until the end of season must be new or different. Hardwick's systems must go. Erase it.
• Jack Riewoldt needs be named Captain for the rest of the Season and for Season 2017. This man is the face and heart of Tigerland, on and off the field. Alex Rance becomes Vice Captain. Jack represents our extroverted old Richmond attacking heart as Leader. Alex represents the old defending, never give up Tiger. All Leadership groups and sub groups need to be disbanded immediately. Nobody else at Richmond deserves player driven decision making roles. All decisions now need to be made solely by both proven on-field performers, Jack and Alex. These two Generals cover the complete Richmond field of play. Nothing would be missed by having these two Generals watching the play. A Midfielder is too self absorbed in their own game and tussles to completely notice in-game positioning, movements and trends. We need elite players like Jack and Alex alone to call ALL the shots at Richmond.
• Trent Cotchin goes back to becoming a regular, normal required player within the playing group. Cotchin needs to be just a needed cog in the Team and no longer a controlling figure in our short, failed game style of early 2016. And the Captaincy has become a burden to Cotchin. Cotchin is suffocating under the Captaincy. Sadly, Cotchin is not Captain material. Let Cotchin become a great team player instead, before we completely lose him mentally as a footballer.
• Vickery is immediately told he WILL be traded at Season's end. That experiment is over. Anybody that thinks that Vickery can contribute to the RFC winning a flag by playing consistent football every week in the forward line, has been proven wrong.
• At season's end, only those boys with extreme speed (if smaller), or larger monster style players will be drafted. Do not veer from this selection process. No middle of the road small players. We need players who can help win games, not just contribute with average physical abilities.
• Jack is now fitter and strong enough to play as Captain at CHF in season 2017. Only those who can stand their ground in the goal square should be drafted at FF. We need to draft a tall young guy (no beanpoles) specifically for that position and/or Trav Cloke while he develops.
• We aren't as fit as most teams, we aren't as strong, and we are lazy. All those that are currently moulding our playing group are the wrong people.

Change is needed while we have the time. We have the time to plan now. We have the time this week to redirect the club. I wonder if those at the club in positions of power, actually understand that the Tigers of old actually made strong, instant decisions based on belief in the Richmond way. The Richmond Football Club of the past was not based on slow, indifferent 5,6,7 year plans of misdirected patience. That experiment needs to be over. The new Tiger needs to be the Tiger of now. We prepare for now. We play for now.

Pull your finger out now Tigers. This week is the right time to put into action, a direct path to a different club from the failed one of 2016.

 

[juss]

What that guy said ^

 

[I Rock]

We stick fat, back our boys in until the cows come home and we'll be cherry ripe for 2017.

Visual depiction for those interested.

 

[RobsJourney]

With just over 9 months to the season 2017 bounce the RFC needs to source new physical conditioning staff and get the boys up to an acceptable physical standard. Then they need to work on hard tackling skills followed by a new game plan. The RFC has been wishy washy if not neglectful in all these areas.
Unless these changes are made it doesn't matter whether Yarran Houli or Prestia come in we won't improve simply bc we're physically weak and we don't hurt the opposition physically.
I don't want to see the club doing ****y little giggling training sketches anymore. I want these blokes to hurt for success and to be all on the same page for attaining success.
The bar is too low and our boys have NI of what it takes to be successful , but doing hard work in the gym would be a start.

Yes definitely.

We really need more physical conditioning. We are far from athletic and never as big and strong as our opponents.

 

[CoggaRules]

We can hold a referendum and call it #rexit

#reco

 

[CoggaRules]

On a serious note one thing we should try and address before the season is out is find a few mids that can do that magical thing and help out the forwards and hit the ****ing scoreboard every now and then. I mean, it dont have to be blowing the fuses of the board, but **** me if barring Dusty we have the most ineffective midfield in terms of scoring on the planet. When the **** is the last time Cotch actually had anything remotely like a set shot or a serious snap for goal? Snippa gets amongst every other blue moon and Dusty, well his natural killer instinct has now been extinguished as well by the brains trust. All our midfield does is gather possesions from our 56,000 HB flankers and pass it around for a while and then kick it to JR and if JR misses it, hope that Lloydo grabs it..has anyone seen Conca actually kick the ball towards the goal posts in his whole career? Like has anyone seen him kick it more than 17.34 meters 2 meters above the ground? And here we are wondering why we cant kick winning scores.. we only have 2 who have something going for them FFS.
We were going to draft kids that could kick? like get the **** outta here with that shit.

 

[WATiger86]

With just over 9 months to the season 2017 bounce the RFC needs to source new physical conditioning staff and get the boys up to an acceptable physical standard.

 

[WATiger86]

On a serious note one thing we should try and address before the season is out is find a few mids that can do that magical thing and help out the forwards and hit the ******* scoreboard every now and then. I mean, it dont have to be blowing the fuses of the board, but **** me if barring Dusty we have the most ineffective midfield in terms of scoring on the planet. When the **** is the last time Cotch actually had anything remotely like a set shot or a serious snap for goal? Snippa gets amongst every other blue moon and Dusty, well his natural killer instinct has now been extinguished as well by the brains trust. All our midfield does is gather possesions from our 56,000 HB flankers and pass it around for a while and then kick it to JR and if JR misses it, hope that Lloydo grabs it..has anyone seen Conca actually kick the ball towards the goal posts in his whole career? Like has anyone seen him kick it more than 17.34 meters 2 meters above the ground? And here we are wondering why we cant kick winning scores.. we only have 2 who have something going for them FFS.
We were going to draft kids that could kick? like get the **** outta here with that shit.

Agreed. And this is the only logical reason Ty keeping getting a game

 

[living_in_syd]

New recruiting team.

They literally just guessing now. Recruiting players like Broad who can't kick is an example.

 

[NaturalDisaster]

It was mentioned on SEN every time the news goes to RFC training drill the boys are giggling and carrying on. This was only a minor point in my post as I want them to work seriously on getting their bodies up to size

Gee I hope not

The media blow things up sometimes though.

New recruiting team.

They literally just guessing now. Recruiting players like Broad who can't kick is an example.

Said it before, I think the recruiting try too hard thats their problem, try too hard to be left of field... Sometimes the more obvious choices are the right ones.