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Is this guy a dud or what?
Sorry haven't been on the boards for about 2 months so I don't know if it's already been posted, but just thought I'd show it... from the New York Observer, by Peter Weiss

Thanks, Mates! Down Under, is New Wild West

by Philip Weiss <mailto: pweiss@observer.com>


Australian actors did so well at the Golden Globe Awards that Tom Hanks made
Vegemite jokes and Steven Spielberg compared the talent to the British invasion
of the 40s. The Australian press is now predicting more success at the Oscars
and playing nervous stage mother to the latest offspring from "Aussiewood":
Naomi Watts, the star of Mulholland Drive, and the soon-to-be-released Queen of
the Damned, by Australian director Michael Rymer.

Having just spent a couple of weeks in Australia, I can tell you that the
Australian moment is not going to fade in a hurry. It arises from homegrown
forces that are strong and strange and not entirely appealing, racism
and latent violence. If you think those are generalizations, I've just gotten
started. All Australians should leave the room now, put on their bathing suits,
and go out and play Australian-rules football.

The first thing you notice about Australian culture is that it´s pathetically
thin. It doesnt go back very far: A mere 150 years ago, they were still
sending prisoners here and they have a past that the Australians have mixed feelings about.
And while the Aborigines have been here for thousands of years, aboriginal
culture has been largely scraped off the map and stuck in a back alley.

The thinness means that modern Australia has fallen for American culture in a
way that no one else could. Radio stations play the worst of American music (as
opposed to New Zealand, which has more of a history and identity, and whose
radio stations pick and choose the best alternative stuff); the ballboys at the
Australian Open wear Nike swooshes bigger than boomerangs; and
celebrity-spotting is turned up several notches even above our own. Board a
Qantas flight from Brisbane to Melbourne and they're playing an interview of
Nicole Kidman by some would-be Charlie Rose, and all the Aussies are tuned in
religiously. The leading papers turn out opinion pieces comparing Russell Crowe
to De Niro, and unsnarky stories about stage mothers pushing 11-year-olds who
have just done their first tele-movies, under the headline 'Little Charlie
Hollywood Bound?'

Twenty years back, when Peter Weir and Fred Schepisi came to America, their work
felt very Australian. Today the Australian identity is up for grabs. Consider
the recent art-house hit Lantana, a drama about a womanç—´ disappearance set in
metropolitan Sydney. It is made for American eyes. Barbara Hershey as a
therapist doesnt bother to change or explain her accent, and the film's
structure is adopted rather slavishly from the multi-strand, hour-long episode
of Bochco-style American TV drama.

Mimicry is a point of pride. Some Australian papers have dropped the U in
"colour" and "flavour," and Australian actors boast that their accents can go in
and out at will, and that, in any case, Australian accents are clear to the
American ear. How many Americans knew that Errol Flynn was Australian?

Anybody who has seen a Crocodile Dundee movie, or maybe read Patrick White´s
Voss, will point out that Australia has a rich mythology of its own. That
mythology is the bush, rural rebel legends like Ned Kelly and Breaker Morant.
But the Australian bush is depopulatedé nd Aussies glorify it in much the same
way that America glorified the cowboy 50 or 60 years ago, at a time when cowboys
were fading into daguerreotype.

And this is precisely Australia´s usefulness to Hollywood right now: to serve
as the New West, a wide-open state called Kidmania abutting California, and
fulfilling the same function for Los Angeles as the Old West did, the West that
gave energy to the emerging movie industry. Because Hollywood couldnt have
been an East Coast phenomenon: It fed on American myth and Americans of action,
risk-takers without the civilizing and refinement of the big Eastern cities. It
required rootless people and desperate characters as the raw product. Recall the
themes of that documentary Hollywood novel, The Day of the Locust, in which
Nathanael West understood Los Angeles as a fake place mounted on the horizon to
serve the restless itchings of dislocated Midwesterners, who had a violent edge
to them.

Australian culture feels as grotesque as The Day of the Locust. There's no
sense of a high culture anywhere, and extreme characters abound. TV ads are
often leeringly sexual ("These are the only balls you'll see at our health
club," says an ad for a women´s workout center, focusing on some tennis balls),
and on hip radio stations the announcers do Amos Andy accents when
theyre talking about Mike Tyson.

The bush inheritance includes a large share of brutality (which helps to explain
such brutalized transplants as the Post's Steve Dunleavy). Bush ranger Ned
Kelly's hero of endless romances, from Mick Jagger´s film portrait in 1970
to Peter Carey´s novel in 2000 as a cop-killer who baited the law into a
showdown by killing one of his trusted men. But the beatification of Ned Kelly
in Australia is never-ending, and raises a real question about Australian moral
sense.

Lately at the Old Melbourne Gaol (a stupendous stone building in the heart of
Melbourne where Kelly and later Mick Jagger dropped from the scaffold), they
have an exhibit on Kelly called Ned, with Ned jackets and Ned T-shirts and
morally weird language descriptions of a Kelly ambush as a "tragedy."

The best thing about this exhibit is that it also showcases the death masks of
others who were hanged about the same time as Kelly. Often these were
immigrants, like former American slave Fred Jordan and 21-year-old Fatta Chand,
an Indian trader condemned on little evidence. Thousands turned out to protest
the death penalty when it was used against Kelly; no one protested when
dark-skinned immigrants were executed on flimsy circumstantial evidence.

Racism is a great Australian tradition, and one that has been thriving even as
Australian actors make their homes in the States. Once, famously, Australia had
a whites-only immigration policy ("Two Wongs don't make a white" was the
saying), and though that policy has been renounced for 30 years, it lingers on
in subtle ways. Australia is the whitest place I've been in a long time, the
whitest place in the English-speaking world. Even hip districts, like St. Kilda
in Melbourne, are all white. This is in stark contrast to neighbor New Zealand,
which has made a concerted effort to honor Maori place names and Maori
pronunciation, and whose leading city, Auckland, is a city of the world, with
Asians and Maoris everywhere.

The policies that underpin Australia´s whiteness have been showcased lately by
the Woomera detention crisis, which I gather has made it onto American
television. At a camp in the desert of South Australia, illegal Afghan
immigrants have been kept for as long as two years awaiting decisions on their
status. Lately they've staged a hunger strike, and they've resisted
force-feeding by sewing their lips shut and also sewing their children's lips
shut. Then some of the adults drank shampoo to create further havoc.

But the most shocking aspect of the Woomera crisis is the viciousness it has
called on in the tough Australian soul. The Immigration Minister has said that
the Afghans are trying to "bully" their way into Australia. He has denied press
access to the center, browbeating reporters who say they only want to tell the
detainees stories by saying flatly, "Well, what story do you think they're
going to tell?"

Even the opposition Labor Party has tended to support the government's
immigration policy (though it is now stepping softly away). That's because
there is such broad public support among Australians for the Woomera camp that,
when a doctor on the television news said that self-mutilations by the children
there had actually begun months ago, the woman next to me in the TV room of my
Melbourne hotel spat out, "Good." Another Australian woman across the room piped
up to say that one Afghan man had three wives and eight children - what was
Australia to make of a family like that?

The condemnations of Woomera have been limited to a liberal fringe. The big
papers have called on the government to end the fiasco by whatever means
necessary. The author Peter Carey, who now lives in Manhattan, returned to
Melbourne, his home town, on Australia Day to give a speech which said, in
biting moral terms, that Australians had progressed little from their
Anglo-Celtic notions of what a Real Australian is. The horror at Woomera should
force Australians to search their souls, Mr. Carey said.

I didn't hear any of the Australian actors speaking so bravely. Nicole Kidman
was talking about raising her kids in Sydney and London, and "Rusty" Crowe, as
they call him, was hosting a benefit for his favorite rugby team, the Rabbitohs,
outside Sydney. Of course they're not responsible for the terrors of their home
culture; they are only products of it. And so they are useful to us, too, to
flesh out our dreams of eternal and rugged whiteness.
 
God what an idiot. He writes an article like that and supplies his email addresss! :eek: ;)


































Anyone up for a bit of email bombing? :D
 
Although I agree that American culture has somewhat influenced our lives, it is rubbish to say that our culture is so paper-thin that it almost doesn't exist. If that was the case, we'd be watching Gridiron instead of Aussie Rules :rolleyes:
 

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An incredibly patronising and ill-informed piece of poop. As an American, this tosser might want to have a look in his own backyard before pointing the finger at Australia.
 
Just wrote back to this twit with this...

Dear Phillip,
I was very patronised by your article 'Thanks, Mates! Down Under, is New Wild West '

Who the hell are you to come to our country, leave it, then give it a royal bagging. Are you bitter that someone other
than Americans are winning award-shows? So, to make up for it, you cowardly write a piece of drivel to point out all the bad points about Australia? Your article gives a strong impression that you are very threatened. Grow up you child.

And in case your one-dimensional mind hasn't realised it, America does in fact have its faults. Yes, its true, which may be hard to swallow for a typical flag-feeding Yank like yourself.

If I wrote an article describing America's faults, then let it be known, I would need alot more room then what you used to get across your propaganda.

Yours Sincerely,
Nick Smart
Australian and Proud.
 
saw this post about a week ago on another board that i visit...and people there werent happy at all. Id say so far this guy would of recieved well over 300 emails from unhappy aussies displaying their disgust at his bullcrap stereotypical hypocrisy. Even tho most of his article is spot on...its hypocritical.

I mean how hypocritical can you get??? Him having a go at us for racism (not denying it...bloody oath racism occurs here)...maybe he should look in his own backyard. The way the native indians were treated. The persecution of the black americans that goes on everyday. And he thinks we are racist. Id love to ask him how many racial wars have occured in australia compared to america.

I hope most Americans arent as hypocritical and arrogant as this clown is
 
That's good stuff, some of it was a little bit overstated but overall this guy is actually very close to the mark IMO.

Must say though that Ned Kelly was a hero...
Just think, he was oh so close to creating an Irish Republic of Victoria...awesome.

Anyone who doubts our slavishness to american culture need only walk down one of your city's mainstreets - the nike, puma, gap etc etc wannabees are averywhere.

Why aren't they all wearing Aran sweaters??:D
 
Originally posted by Dippers Donuts
Must say though that Ned Kelly was a hero...

This is one thing that get's on my nerves big time!

NED KELLY WAS A MASS MURDERER!

Just like Martin Byrant, Julian Knight after him, he was no better than those aforementioned scum of the universe

He killed cops in cold blood and enjoyed it

This MURDERER should never get the hero worship hype he gets
 
Originally posted by The Ewok


This is one thing that get's on my nerves big time!

NED KELLY WAS A MASS MURDERER!

Just like Martin Byrant, Julian Knight after him, he was no better than those aforementioned scum of the universe

He killed cops in cold blood and enjoyed it

This MURDERER should never get the hero worship hype he gets

come out come out wherever you are...:rolleyes:

Ignorance is bliss, study the history a little more before you make silly statements like that...
 

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He wasn't a mass murderer, but he was a bank robber and killer. I don't understand the respect he holds at all (Iam Irish Catholic background btw)
 
Originally posted by Fat Red
He wasn't a mass murderer, but he was a bank robber and killer. I don't understand the respect he holds at all (Iam Irish Catholic background btw)

He was set up anyway.

I might be wrong but his family had very strong Irish roots and the Police had strong English roots.
 
One could easily suggest (as the facts do) that he was persecuted by the (largely English) police forces (who incidentally engaged in their own theft and murder).

I just like the idea of the downtrodden giving the finger (for a time anyway) to the aristocracy...
 
Originally posted by Dippers Donuts
One could easily suggest (as the facts do) that he was persecuted by the (largely English) police forces (who incidentally engaged in their own theft and murder).

I just like the idea of the downtrodden giving the finger (for a time anyway) to the aristocracy...

So do I, but two wrongs don't make a right. Kelly was a bank robber and murderer, and whether he was persecuted or set up by hypocrites doesn't change that. He didn't have a political or revolutionary excuse for his crimes, they were for personal gain.
 
I had heard about this, but I hadn't actually read the piece. Here's my offerings to our New York friend:
________________________________________________

Dear Sir

As you so eloquently noted in your piece that appeared in the New York Observer recently, Australia and Australians slavishly follow the shining cultural example of the United States. It should come as no surprise to you then that your thoroughly researched and extremely balanced piece has been the subject of some attention and scrutiny over here in this racist, colonial outpost.

Firstly, I'd like to congratulate your editorial staff for their exciting and innovative approach to punctuation. The comma placed after the word "Under" in the piece's title is truly groundbreaking. I look forward to seeing other forms of punctuation sprinkled randomly through all forms of journalism (as well as your own work).

As a connoisseur of fine works of satire and humour (Ooh! A 'u' in humour. I hope the spellchecker picks that up!), I thoroughly read your piece several times in a vain search for the slightest trace of levity. Having found none, I can only assume that your work is observational and critical, rather than humorous.

In that light, I'd like to take issue with you on a few points.

Your extensive Australian experience (of "a couple of weeks") obviously has you under the impression that you are well placed to make your rather critical assessments of this country and its inhabitants. However, having spent considerably longer then "a couple of weeks" here, I might have a little more to offer on a few of the topics you raised.

Your opening contention is that the present Hollywood fixation with Australian actors has arisen "from homegrown forces that are strong and strange and not entirely appealing, racism and latent violence." An interesting viewpoint, given that Naomi Watts was born in England, Russell Crowe was born and spent the vast majority of his youth in New Zealand (that paragon of virtue that you laud without ever getting around to mentioning that you've actually been there), and dear old Nicole Kidman was born in the United States of America. Homegrown forces? Hmm, perhaps not.

One assumes that your dismissal of your Australian audience ("All Australians should leave the room now, put on their bathing suits, and go out and play Australian-rules football.") was supposed to be humorous, but it may surprise you to learn that we don't play "Australian-rules" in "bathing suits". I would have thought that your long and arduous research would have unveiled that the sport goes by the name of "football" in these parts, and requires no "Australian-rules" qualification, while the term "bathing suit" would not be in general use in any part of Australia that I've visited. I can only conclude that you weren't addressing Australians at all, rather trying to elicit a cheap laugh while lumping together two stereotypical Australian pastimes in a derogatory fashion. In other words, a racist joke.

After that racist joke, you launch into paragraph upon paragraph attacking Australian 'culture' as racist. Given that you also contend that Australian culture is largely composed of American influences, does not that reflect poorly on the original?

But the true joy of your piece is the torrent of unwitting irony that you unleash. You lambast Australia as a place where "extreme characters abound", yet you hail from a country that lionises Homer Simpson and write for a journal from a city that raises Howard Stern as a radio god. You claim that "the bush inheritance includes a large share of brutality" in the same piece as comparing the new Australian fascination to the "Wild West", a place of extreme brutality itself, and decry a culture for making a cult hero of a criminal, yet hail from a culture that revels in the legend of Billy the Kid, Bonnie & Clyde, John Dillinger, O.J. Simpson and many other violent characters (most of whom committed their deeds long after 1880, Ned Kelly's year of death).

But this is merely the introduction to your real agenda, which reads as follows: Australia is a racist country.

Firstly, let it be said that Australia contains racists. Of that there is no doubt. Equally, there is no doubt that every country in the world have racists in their population, say for instance, the home of the Ku Klux Klan for instance.

But that's off the topic. Australia is a racist country, according to you. Your evidence?

"Australia had a whites-only immigration policy ("Two Wongs don't make a white" was the saying), and though that policy has been renounced for 30 years, it lingers on in subtle ways." To back up that strong piece of imagery, you provide absolutely no evidence. It is merely stated as fact, and then you move on to more racist rantings. I call on you to justify that statement. How does it linger on in subtle ways? Do you have any corroborating evidence to support that claim?

"Australia is the whitest place I've been in a long time, the whitest place in the English-speaking world." Australia did not engage in widespread trade and use of African slaves, and as such does not have as many non-white, non-indigenous residents as other countries. The Aboriginal population (who have been treated cruelly and unforgivably by the post 1788 arrivals in the past) remains at a level quite similar to pre-colonisation.

"Even hip districts, like St. Kilda in Melbourne, are all white. This is in stark contrast to neighbor New Zealand, which has made a concerted effort to honor Maori place names and Maori pronunciation, and whose leading city, Auckland, is a city of the world, with Asians and Maoris everywhere." A brief trip to Footscray, Richmond or Fitzroy, all right next door to the centre of Melbourne, would have shown you thriving Asian cultures, as well as a significant number of Aborigines. Richmond and Fitzroy are quite "hip", as Melbourne goes, but since it didn't suit your racist agenda, I wouldn't have expected you to visit there. Comparing Auckland favourably with Melbourne in the multi-cultural stakes is quite ridiculous - Melbourne is amongst the most culturally diverse cities anywhere. In my office of 60 people I can count people of Chinese, Singaporean, Korean, Malaysian, Indian and Iranian extraction, as well as people of Italian, Spanish, French, Greek, Croatian, Fijian, English, Scottish, Irish and even New Zealand descent. As for embracing indigenous names and culture, one imagines you didn't see the Yarra River during your Melbourne stay, nor visit places such as Uluru, Gariwerd or any of the other formerly Anglicised places that have recently reverted to their Aboriginal names.

Your depiction of widespread Australian acceptance of the Government's treatment of asylum seekers is wildly skewed and unrepresentative. There is widespread condemnation of the Government's actions in the community, yet the only dissenting voice you could be bothered to find was a fellow New York resident. Quoting "a woman standing next to (you)" is hardly the most authoritative source for painting 18 million people as a bunch of xenophobic rednecks, but don't let that stop you.
Your enviable research skills are once again on display when you refer to "the Immigration Minister", who apparently doesn't warrant a name. A cursory glance at any article covering the issue would have given you that piece of information, but one imagines you were too busy being cosmopolitan to bother.

Your final sentence is telling: "And so they are useful to us, too, to flesh out our dreams of eternal and rugged whiteness." By "our", I assume you refer to Hollywood and its audience. You infer here that this group of people too are racist, and yearn to be told stories of white supremacy and might. I am in no position to make an informed judgement on that assertion; unlike you I'm not going to spout off about something I know precious little about. What I will say is that I would thank you not to use my country and my city as an excuse and an apology for the racism you perceive in your own culture.

Racism in any form is a despicable trait, and accusations thereof should not be made lightly or frivolously. Most people in this country try very hard to right the wrongs of the past, and for such ignorant and wildly inaccurate rantings to be broadcast to the world's biggest English speaking does nothing to help that cause. Your readers deserver better, and so do my fellow Australians.

Yours in utter disgust.

Mark O'Connor
Melbourne, Australia
 

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DCFC, that was an absolutly brilliant reply. I sent one myself but yours makes mine sound like a grade 2 piece of dribble.

I only hope the clown reads it. Let us know if you get a reply.
 
Brilliant stuff DCFC. I have been working on an email to this guy for the last hour, but it is now being deleted. You have spoken for me, and I applaud your dignified response.


My instinct now is to paraphrase the courtroom speech of Kurt Russell in Tango & Cash, but I will resist...
 

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