Who would you trade for the Eagles 1st Round pick?

[silver_and_sand]

Worsfold has said the Eagles consider their 1st round pick tradeable if there's an offer good enough. I was just curious who Geelong fans would consider trading for say pick 6?

 

[Hinkley29]

Ask again after the finals are finished. What happens between now and then will have a huge bearing on how we evaluate where our list is at.

 

[BlueOyster]

shannon byrnes but you might have to throw in your 2nd rounder too.

 

[jakethesnake]

They want a small forward don't they? We have a few of those.

 

[Cats Eye]

I would look at giving Stokes, he had a brilliant 07, but since then has not been able to consistently perform at that same level. With Chapman, Byrnes, Gamble, Motlop and the two Varcoes brothers I think we have enough depth to cover his absence. With our history of draft picks (thanks to Wells) I think we would be able to get a player who would be worth more to us on the field then what Stokes is at the moment (ruckman, key position, backman). If we are to trade Stokes then I think we should do it this year, because other teams will still value him, but if we let it go for another couple of years and he performs the way he has been, then I doubt we would be able to get a first round draft pick for him.

In saying this, I wish that he could return to his 07 form, then we would not have to worry about trading him at all.

 

[TheMightyAchilles]

stokes is not worth a first round pick.

 

[crunchola]

Ask again after the finals are finished. What happens between now and then will have a huge bearing on how we evaluate where our list is at.

absolutely agree

 

[Cats Eye]

stokes is not worth a first round pick.

If we need to add someone else then so be it (Tenace), I cant see them getting an absolute star for one first round pick. Stokes could possibly be the best offer they get.

 

[cats2rise]

Stokes + Tenace

Still unfair but eh - Don't want to depart with anyone else and dont want to give up a pick.

 

[Poetic Justice]

Ryan Gamble?

Would we use the pick or flick it off to someone for a decent key forward or maybe Matt Maguire or something?

 

[catters078]

Theyre not just gonna give the pick away for players like stokes and tenace alone..

I came up with a suggestion in the main board which people thought was fair...

TO WC.

Stokes + Geelongs 1st round pick (12-16)

TO Geel

Pick 6

Benefits for Geelong are a shot at a stud in the draft, while being able to give stokes a better oppurtunity at another club, it also gives Geelong some breathing room salary cap wise...and Geelong has more than enough smalls up forward to move stokes..(Bynres, varcoe, ablett etc...)

benefits for the eagles are they get a 30-40 goal scoring crumber and only have to downgrade 8-10 spots in the draft so they still get a decent pick...

 

[Poetic Justice]

Sounds fair..

 

[cats2rise]

Wouldnt give up our first pick.

Thats a keeper.

 

[Tex_21]

I think we should trade Tenace. Unfortunately the wrong WA team is trading

 

[Cats Eye]

IMO giving up a talented 24yr old player who has already played in a premiership side and represented Vic at AFL level is worth more than gaining 6-10 places in the draft. We would be getting a raw deal if that was to happen. I think some people forget that he is only 24 (turning 25 in November this year) and that his best footy is still to come.

 

[catters078]

IMO giving up a talented 24yr old player who has already played in a premiership side and represented Vic at AFL level is worth more than gaining 6-10 places in the draft. We would be getting a raw deal if that was to happen. I think some people forget that he is only 24 (turning 25 in November this year) and that his best footy is still to come.

The thing is, I think by getting as asset like pick 6 in a draft, and freeing up cap space, it benefits us in two ways..

1- Adding a talent like that to our list would be invaluable, especially if we can get a gun midfielder to add to our line up in 2-3 years.. eg Rich, Palmer..another selwood??

2- Cap space is crucial..I dont think losing stokes hurts us much, small forward is a position where geelong is loaded. By trading Stokes essentially for a young Rookie that means if it comes a time after next year where we need to add some $$ to a contract offer to Ablett or Selwood to compare against the Gold coast then whatever cap room we would have would be invaluable...Obviously we cant go offer against offer against GC, however if adding 50-100k to an offer means we may intice Sel or Jr to stay then i believe we should have that cap room available...


If a trade like that was to go down, maybe we could add an asset from WC like a 3rd rd pick or a rookie...but I think a package like I offered would be fair...Just a thought

 

[OldStyle2007]

IMO giving up a talented 24yr old player who has already played in a premiership side and represented Vic at AFL level is worth more than gaining 6-10 places in the draft. We would be getting a raw deal if that was to happen. I think some people forget that he is only 24 (turning 25 in November this year) and that his best footy is still to come.

Stokes has jumped the shark. He represented the Allies, not Victoria, and many even considered that to be a surprise

His best efforts now represent sprinting to the vacant goal square whenever a pack forms in the forward 50. He doesn't crumb the packs or kick goals off the ground.

He's not a trade proposition as he has lost his pace and isn't as good a mark as someone like Medhurst.

Cats would have been smarter to trade him after 2007 instead of their former captain/B&F/AA ruckman

 

[Tex_21]

Why can't Freo want to trade? We could give them a box of eggs and an egg flip, and they'd be happy.

 

[hamG]

Stokes + our first rounder seems alright for us.

We could then use their pick to draft a gun small forward

 

[Cats Eye]

Stokes has jumped the shark. He represented the Allies, not Victoria, and many even considered that to be a surprise

His best efforts now represent sprinting to the vacant goal square whenever a pack forms in the forward 50. He doesn't crumb the packs or kick goals off the ground.

He's not a trade proposition as he has lost his pace and isn't as good a mark as someone like Medhurst.

Cats would have been smarter to trade him after 2007 instead of their former captain/B&F/AA ruckman

1. Whether it was a surprise or not, it still happened.
2. We have so many small forwards it would be stupid to have all of them crumbing the pack all at the one time, Varcoe and Chapman (when forward are generally our crumbers. Why does he have to kick goals off the ground?
3. There is a thread in bay 13 about players which teams would be interested in.... his name is mentioned numerous times. He does not have the leap that Medhurst has, but definately is not inadequate in marking.
4. Easy to say in hindsight.

 

[Cats Eye]

The thing is, I think by getting as asset like pick 6 in a draft, and freeing up cap space, it benefits us in two ways..

1- Adding a talent like that to our list would be invaluable, especially if we can get a gun midfielder to add to our line up in 2-3 years.. eg Rich, Palmer..another selwood??

2- Cap space is crucial..I dont think losing stokes hurts us much, small forward is a position where geelong is loaded. By trading Stokes essentially for a young Rookie that means if it comes a time after next year where we need to add some $$ to a contract offer to Ablett or Selwood to compare against the Gold coast then whatever cap room we would have would be invaluable...Obviously we cant go offer against offer against GC, however if adding 50-100k to an offer means we may intice Sel or Jr to stay then i believe we should have that cap room available...


If a trade like that was to go down, maybe we could add an asset from WC like a 3rd rd pick or a rookie...but I think a package like I offered would be fair...Just a thought

I agree, but I dont think our 1st round pick plus Stokes is only worth moving up 6-10 places.

 

[strauchnyy]

Theyre not just gonna give the pick away for players like stokes and tenace alone..

I came up with a suggestion in the main board which people thought was fair...

TO WC.

Stokes + Geelongs 1st round pick (12-16)

TO Geel

Pick 6

Benefits for Geelong are a shot at a stud in the draft, while being able to give stokes a better oppurtunity at another club, it also gives Geelong some breathing room salary cap wise...and Geelong has more than enough smalls up forward to move stokes..(Bynres, varcoe, ablett etc...)

benefits for the eagles are they get a 30-40 goal scoring crumber and only have to downgrade 8-10 spots in the draft so they still get a decent pick...

I agree with this... This is fair to both teams. It would be a good result for us especially if gamble can fill the shoes of stokes in the coming years. (although im stating to have my doubts).

 

[Hoffy95]

Wouldnt give up our first pick.

Thats a keeper.

But we'd be getting a higher first pick. Usually that's a good thing, no?

 

[rocker_oz33]

has much as l like little stokes,l dont think he will be a long time player @ the cattery

 

[goodoldcats]

upgradin a pick would allow us to get one of:
Tom Scully
Jack Trengove
John Butcher
Anthony Morabito
Kane Lucas
Gary Rohan
crazy not to consider it