Why are Port more hated than the Crows?

[greatwhiteshark]

Crows are widely respected by Victorians while Port are laughed at for having tarps on their seats and losing a grand final by 119 points.
Similar to the WA teams with West Coast being widely respected by Victorians while Fremantle are seen as a joke.

However,
West Coast are more hated than Fremantle while Port are more hated than the Crows, hence why I asked the question in this thread.

Nah Victorians don't like Port because they are the most succesfull tier 1 football club in the history of the sport and Vics can't handle that the top 3 are from outside of the Vic heartland. Nothing more to it than that.

 

[Pistol Night]

Nah Victorians don't like Port because they are the most succesfull tier 1 football club in the history of the sport and Vics can't handle that the top 3 are from outside of the Vic heartland. Nothing more to it than that.

Based on what? I respect Port more due to the tradition of the club more than anything. And its cute they keep wanting to wear black and white stripes. Cant hate attempted imitation

 

[Wargreymon90]

Trying to be as objective as possible.

But port being around the mark and failing repeatedly (sometimes in embarrassing fashion) is easy to mock and dislike.

Crows have been irrelevant for a while now. And neutrals love the underdog nature of a club moving off the bottom of the ladder.

The whole feral supporter thing interests me. Carlton fans are infinitely my unpleasant than Melbourne or Sydney fans. Yet I still have more fun at Carlton home games

 

[JimmyBC]

Based on what? I respect Port more due to the tradition of the club more than anything. And its cute they keep wanting to wear black and white stripes. Cant hate attempted imitation

I'll sort you out in the cricket thread m7 if you are not careful.

 

[Pistol Night]

I'll sort you out in the cricket thread m7 if you are not careful.

Haha. Mate i was a South Adelaide kid back in the 80s and 90s when you guys virtually got GF celebrations started the night before the game so i have equal amounts of awe, respect and deep seated loathing for Port as a whole so its nice to feel some kind of superiority to them.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Based on what? I respect Port more due to the tradition of the club more than anything. And its cute they keep wanting to wear black and white stripes. Cant hate attempted imitation

What do you mean based on what? There were 3 top tier leagues for over 100 years, they won 40 odd flags. It's an incredible record. One I respect a great deal and I am no Port fan.
So you think Swan Districts are trying to imitate Collingwood also because they wear black and white stripes? Thousands of clubs wear black and white stripes, thats how sacred that is.

 

[Taper]

Nah Victorians don't like Port because they are the most succesfull tier 1 football club in the history of the sport and Vics can't handle that the top 3 are from outside of the Vic heartland. Nothing more to it than that.

No one in Victoria cares about Port's bush league premierships.
Victoria has always been home to the highest level of Australian Football while WA and SA competitions have always been inferior.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

No one in Victoria cares about Port's bush league premierships.
Victoria has always been home to the highest level of Australian Football while WA and SA competitions have always been inferior.

All leagues were first tier. Those are the facts. And that is always the typical response instead of just saying yes it's amazing how one club could be so successfull. Acknowledgement is a real problem for Victorians for some weird reason.

 

[strand_victor]

Although I don't personally have an issue with SA, in fact I quite like Adelaide the city, I think this is true.

Now the parallels between Hinkley and B Scott are becoming so stark, I've been finding it hard to maintain the JHF rage, after they joined the exclusive club of Essendon and Sydney in my most hated teams. I see the rage of their supporters, which all seems to amount to nothing with the Port board, and it kinda touches my heart.

Brad Scott has never coached a Side to a Top 4 finish. Hinkley has coached us to the Top 4 in four of the past five Years despite having to work with a Coaching Panel that's Bare Bones at best. I think People hate us more than the Camry Crows because we tend to Punch above our Weight more than they do.

 

[ok.crows]

Not an endorsement/celebration of the offence (the racist action), but the offender (Tex himself).

See my profile pic. Did it occur to you that possibly Tex isn't generally racist but rather had a legitimate beef against the particular person about whom his comment was made at that particular time?

 

[Schulzenfest]

See my profile pic. Did it occur to you that possibly Tex isn't generally racist but rather had a legitimate beef against the particular person about whom his comment was made at that particular time?

You're not allowed to use slurs against black people because you have a 'legitimate beef' against them. Guessing you're a racist too if you think that makes it okay.

 

[aCunningPlan]

No one in Victoria cares about Port's bush league premierships.
Victoria has always been home to the highest level of Australian Football while WA and SA competitions have always been inferior.

Mate, I'm Victorian and I know Port's SANFL flags are legit. Before VFL expansion SA footy was top notch.

 

[strand_victor]

See my profile pic. Did it occur to you that possibly Tex isn't generally racist but rather had a legitimate beef against the particular person about whom his comment was made at that particular time?

One of Our Supporters threw a Banana at Eddie Betts at a Game. If she had Legitimate Beef with Eddie does that give Her justification for what She did?

 

[ok.crows]

You're not allowed to use slurs against black people because you have a 'legitimate beef' against them.

Sure. Wrong thing to do. Tex apologised.

Doesn't necessarily mean Tex is racist. Just bad at wording. Faux pas, and all that.

 

[ok.crows]

One of Our Supporters threw a Banana at Eddie Betts at a Game. If she had Legitimate Beef with Eddie does that give Her justification for what She did?

Eddie didn't knock out a player with a questionable bump. Can't see a case for having a beef with Eddie.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Sure. Wrong thing to do. Tex apologised.

Doesn't necessarily mean Tex is racist. Just bad at wording. Faux pas, and all that.

Definitely a man who has used slurs in the past and wants to pretend that doesn't make him racist right here.

 

[Portwrld]

Brad Scott has never coached a Side to a Top 4 finish. Hinkley has coached us to the Top 4 in four of the past five Years despite having to work with a Coaching Panel that's Bare Bones at best. I think People hate us more than the Camry Crows because we tend to Punch above our Weight more than they do.

- Where do I begin, Victor? Ken Hinkley has coached us to the top 4; four times in the past thirteen years. It took Ken seven years to reach the top four, and he’s had Walsh, Richo, Carr, Schoey, etc., as assistants, but he had "bare bones." Amidst all of your dribble, there is one thing that truly counts and matters: Has Ken Hinkley won any premierships in his thirteen years at the club? No, he hasn’t, and that’s all that matters, Victor.

 

[Slime Roy]

It's Simple.
The Good Guys don't usually wear black.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

We love it when people hate us for being tough/feral, ruthless, successful etc.

The worst is when we are hating for Koch being a dweeb and Hinkley having no impulse control.

I cant wait til these 2 are gone and we can go back to being hated for who we really are.

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[Rabish Binney]

We love it when people hate us for being tough/feral, ruthless, successful etc.

The worst is when we are hating for Koch being a dweeb and Hinkley having no impulse control.

I cant wait til these 2 are gone and we can go back to being hated for who we really are.

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Your supporters didn't seem to like it when Rachele said what he said?

BTW I'm not one for giving the opposition any extra motivation by mouthing off before a game.

 

[CharlieMortdecai]

Brad Scott has never coached a Side to a Top 4 finish. Hinkley has coached us to the Top 4 in four of the past five Years despite having to work with a Coaching Panel that's Bare Bones at best. I think People hate us more than the Camry Crows because we tend to Punch above our Weight more than they do.

Hopefully then this Josh Carr takeover plan is all just a beat-up, and they stick with the little Aussie battler.

 

[strand_victor]

- Where do I begin, Victor? Ken Hinkley has coached us to the top 4; four times in the past thirteen years. It took Ken seven years to reach the top four, and he’s had Walsh, Richo, Carr, Schoey, etc., as assistants, but he had "bare bones." Amidst all of your dribble, there is one thing that truly counts and matters: Has Ken Hinkley won any premierships in his thirteen years at the club? No, he hasn’t, and that’s all that matters, Victor.

Assistant Coaches such as Lobbe, Hartlett, Cornes and Sutcliffe are the Definition of Bare Bones. We may as well get Laidley to Coach us again from Skype.

 

[Portwrld]

Assistant Coaches such as Lobbe, Hartlett, Cornes and Sutcliffe are the Definition of Bare Bones. We may as well get Laidley to Coach us again from Skype.

He still had good assistant coaches around him for all these years, but that’s not the point.

The point is you can play the blame game and point the finger at the assistants, but it doesn’t change the fact that Ken Hinkley is a loser. Port Adelaide has paid Ken over $1M for his footy program for 13 miserable years, a program that year after year gets exposed when the stakes are at their highest. Ken does NOT listen to his assistants; you can put anyone in there with him and he won’t listen to anyone; he won’t improve himself as a coach; he should made changes to the game plan instead of, since 2020, constantly insisting on his high-press BS system that clearly doesn’t work come finals time.

He had good teams and equally good coaches around him that any other coach worth their salt would have won a couple of flags with. He has always been the Achilles' heel of his and Port Adelaide's premiership success.

 

[ok.crows]

Definitely a man who has used slurs in the past and wants to pretend that doesn't make him racist right here.

Well, if you slur someone based on having a problem with them as an individual, rather than based on their race, then you are just being rude or argumentive, not racist.

 

[strand_victor]

He still had good assistant coaches around him for all these years, but that’s not the point.

The point is you can play the blame game and point the finger at the assistants, but it doesn’t change the fact that Ken Hinkley is a loser. Port Adelaide has paid Ken over $1M for his footy program for 13 miserable years, a program that year after year gets exposed when the stakes are at their highest. Ken does NOT listen to his assistants; you can put anyone in there with him and he won’t listen to anyone; he won’t improve himself as a coach; he should made changes to the game plan instead of, since 2020, constantly insisting on his high-press BS system that clearly doesn’t work come finals time.

He had good teams and equally good coaches around him that any other coach worth their salt would have won a couple of flags with. He has always been the Achilles' heel of his and Port Adelaide's premiership success.

Hinkley was in New Zealand recently. Most likely looking to improve Himself for Season 2025. He had good Assistant Coaches back when our List was average. Now we have a good List with average Assistant Coaches. I don't agree with the Club replacing Hinkley with Carr because we should see who the best available Candidate is by making them go through a Process, like Collingwood did with McRae and GWS did with Kingsley. Or we could see what John Longmire is doing?