Analysis Why are we s**t?

[ant555]

So can't football

Basically yes.

 

[BrunoV]

Not really the week for it, is it?

2 debutants on top of 5 first year players and with almost all of the first choice talls missing.

Cats are rolling through the season at what is essentially full strength and now starting to build into September.

 

[jdstorm]

Watching VFL and it’s bad vibes.

just an unwillingness to do the hard stuff and a lack of trust in their teammates

 

[ant555]

Watching VFL and it’s bad vibes.

just an unwillingness to do the hard stuff and a lack of trust in their teammates

Personally I think the VFL side has played okay given how we have been slayed with injury. Both rucks ended up going down tonight and they ran over us in the end. Few blokes like Davey not looking like they have a future.

 

[jdstorm]

Personally I think the VFL side has played okay given how we have been slayed with injury. Both rucks ended up going down tonight and they ran over us in the end. Few blokes like Davey not looking like they have a future.

Honestly watching Davey tonight made me sad. He seems pretty checked out. Gave the sideline a good spray after a teammate basically spoiled him from cleaning up their fumble.

3 years at the club and he’s worse then when he got here. That’s true of quite a few players.

Seemed pretty in line with most on the list across both games.

 

[doug85]

Honestly watching Davey tonight made me sad. He seems pretty checked out. Gave the sideline a good spray after a teammate basically spoiled him from cleaning up their fumble.

3 years at the club and he’s worse then when he got here. That’s true of quite a few players.

Seemed pretty in line with most on the list across both games.

I never really rated Davey. I reckon he’s just as bad as when he walked in the door. Not hard enough and has never had the core strength.

I reckon he got massively overrated in his draft year and probably deserved to be bid on at pick 50 or whatever it was.

 

[bacon buster]

9 players under 25 games. Tell me a side that is going to be competitive against one of the best & most experienced side. This is our reality and for once, it’s actually a healthy one

there’s a few in the 13 players over 25 games that are a bit of a worry

 

[Foxx]

Work rate, skills and positioning.
That's the basics to a winning team.

Lately we've been doing one or two. But never had a team full of skilled users since 2000.

 

[MarkJohnson#1]

Are we gutless cowards? Talentless fools? Apathetic dastards? What are we? Are we anything? Do we have any soul? Do we care? Are we all there? Who do we blame..?

 

[Yoda_]

Looks like the forced implosion is reaping the benefits a proper rebuild should look like

 

[windyhill]

Conditioning staff have to have a good hard ****ing look at themselves.
Recruiting players whose bodies are clearly better suited to another occupation. ( Reid/Ridley, boys, maybe take the ****ing continual hint)
Mix of the above.

 

[Jack Richards]

Can we sack Sean Murphy and go hard after Darren Burgess?!

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Attributes, attributes and attributes.

We have a bunch of players especially in the midfield, who at any given time are smaller, aren’t stronger, faster, have better endurance, iq or skills than their direct opponent.

Why are Caddy, Clarke and Johnson good prospects? Why are Durham, Duursma and Martin our best players? Because they have good attributes that actually sometimes places them as better than their opponents in a lot of match settings.

 

[ScrappyCoCo]

Because we have a bloke with the surname Kaka on our list.

 

[Squeaky]

Attributes, attributes and attributes.

We have a bunch of players especially in the midfield, who at any given time are smaller, aren’t stronger, faster, have better endurance, iq or skills than their direct opponent.

Why are Caddy, Clarke and Johnson good prospects? Why are Durham, Duursma and Martin our best players? Because they have good attributes that actually sometimes places them as better than their opponents in a lot of match settings.

Spot on.

I would like to think that to get a better quality team - you need to know what you are looking for. - Just what are the non negotiables that we need before selecting a new recruit.
Elite Endurance or Pace or Skills, definitely Competitive appetite/fight need to be front & centre on our matrix.
We need to prioritise these attributes so that we end up with a bunch of them.

Essendon Supporter, Private School education, well spoken/articulate kid, general athletics OUT of the matrix!

 

[brutus76]

No conditioning
Mentally fragile
Can't stick a tackle
Can't ******** kick and win enough 1v1

 

[Mikevk123]

Looks like Bigfooty posters were right about Voss. Why did we let him and Mass go for nothing ?

 

[windyhill]

Umming and ahhing over draper, he's no good , much like the club he plays for. If you can cash in, cash in.

 

[Yoda_]

Umming and ahhing over draper, he's no good , much like the club he plays for. If you can cash in, cash in.

The endeavour to not want to appear to lose in a situation has clearly been felt hard by the football club. The previous regime should have let a couple of the guys go via free agency and taken the (assuringly) early pick (Parish, McGrath etc)

 

[ant555]

One thing that does not get mentioned is the fact we turned into a club with a soft culture and a bunch of flat track bullies and it has seeped into most corners of the club. We have tried to take short cuts to fix it which simply does not work either. We are shit because we have built a poor product in various areas. We lost the focus on football and became about having 80,000 plus members and a strong bottom line rather than actually winning games. You reap what you sow.

 

[Yoda_]

One thing that does not get mentioned is the fact we turned into a club with a soft culture and a bunch of flat track bullies and it has seeped into most corners of the club. We have tried to take short cuts to fix it which simply does not work either. We are shit because we have built a poor product in various areas. We lost the focus on football and became about having 80,000 plus members and a strong bottom line rather than actually winning games. You reap what you sow.

when we were handing out contracts like lollies post saga, it was pretty evident then

Think people are realising the undeserved contracts of Parish, McGrath, Redman etc and can see just how cancerous the previous list management was.


I posted in the Barham thread about the Mick Malthouse / Carlton views looking eerily similar to what we are now. Exactly what you are talking about. More interested in chest beating about how great we are (reality is 'were') and the bums on seats.

Do yourself a favour and try get ahold of it, great read and some strikingly similarities to what we are at Essendon mate

 

[silk]

One thing that does not get mentioned is the fact we turned into a club with a soft culture and a bunch of flat track bullies and it has seeped into most corners of the club. We have tried to take short cuts to fix it which simply does not work either. We are shit because we have built a poor product in various areas. We lost the focus on football and became about having 80,000 plus members and a strong bottom line rather than actually winning games. You reap what you sow.

Agreed. As I've longed half- joked, we are the Essendon Marketing Club and have been for years and years.

 

[ant555]

when we were handing out contracts like lollies post saga, it was pretty evident then

Think people are realising the undeserved contracts of Parish, McGrath, Redman etc and can see just how cancerous the previous list management was.


I posted in the Barham thread about the Mick Malthouse / Carlton views looking eerily similar to what we are now. Exactly what you are talking about. More interested in chest beating about how great we are (reality is 'were') and the bums on seats.

Do yourself a favour and try get ahold of it, great read and some strikingly similarities to what we are at Essendon mate

Mentioned many years ago that the Blues had outside control issues. Have also been pretty out front here about outside influence being an issue.

 

[southern_crusher]

Years of Adrian Dodoro.

 

[fairbump_playon]

We used to be shit but we're good now but no-one has realised