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Why do so many hate Egan?

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sloth6 said:
Think you might be refering to me there Augie. Were you at the game and actually saw that piece of footage when Fraser kicked it to him and he missed the mark? Is that the first time it has happened or does it happen all the time?

He has the same ability to judge the ball in the air as Corey McKernan! Wasn't Fraser's pass, it was Egan's ability to read the ball in the air! Any player should be able to realise, that hey, if I keep leading at this pace, i'm a fair chance of running under it here, I should perhaps back off a bit and make sure I give myself a good opportunity to mark it, with both hands.

Egan: i'll keep running at the same speed and try and jump two metres in the air and pluck it.

Why would Burns handball to a bloke when he had a clear shot on goal, wasn't under much pressure and there was two or three Port blokes bearing down on Egan in the goal square. Burns f**ked up, thats it. Why create another possession when its not needed. If Buckley was in the square, Burns still wouldn't have handballed the footy.

He is a maligned player because he is a top 10 draft pick, we picked this bloke with our first pick! He does not play with any consistancy, is soft, loves to chase rather than get in there and create his own opportunities and his foot skills aren't exactly terrific.

To say that Chris Egan reminds people, well one person imparticularly of Andrew McLeod is laughable and could be the funniesty thing I have ever read about (yes, even worse that some of the sh*t that comes out of Caroline Wilson's mouth). Chris Egan has a lot of potential and a lot of improving to do. Lets hope he is on the list long enough to repay the faith the Magpies have shown in him.

Finally, to answer the Poll Question.

A and B - O'Bree is a dud, so is Egan.

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Well said sloth6, finally some facts, Egan is a terrible kick, terrible i tell ya,
and he plays the type of footy that come september will be found out, his judgement is terrible and his work ethic is worse, but once again he is a terrible kick, i can't see how you could do the same thing day in day out and be that bad at it,
 
Therussian said:
......... do you hear that? that is the sound of me clapping,

you have just been awarded the stupidist post ever award,

Congrats MM
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Shut up ********, may as well run off back to Russia or make a positive contribution :rolleyes:
 
Anyone who says O'Bree is a dud is childish and has lost all credibiliy in my books.

Leads the clearences for our club and is 7th in the whole comp for Centre bounce clearences.
 

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Cassius_Clay said:
Anyone who says O'Bree is a dud is childish and has lost all credibiliy in my books.

Leads the clearences for our club and is 7th in the whole comp for Centre bounce clearences.
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i'm sure we've been through this before on a different thread,
O'Bree was on fire when the team was winning, when Swan, Thomas and Shaw were flying he was great, now the kids have settled a little and they are getting a hell of a lot more defensive pressure on them where has Obree gone, thats right MIA, he is slow, his decision making not very good and his kicking is ordinary,
we should have traded him after the 1st GF
 
Therussian said:
i'm sure we've been through this before on a different thread,
O'Bree was on fire when the team was winning, when Swan, Thomas and Shaw were flying he was great, now the kids have settled a little and they are getting a hell of a lot more defensive pressure on them where has Obree gone, thats right MIA, he is slow, his decision making not very good and his kicking is ordinary,
we should have traded him after the 1st GF
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Now if we were talking about posessions or marks then you may have a point however we are talking about Centre Clearence/Clearences. How does Swan, Thomas and co. have anything to do with O'Bree and the amount of clearences he gets? They've got nothing to do with him. And if he has gone missing, like you say, he's done bloody well to be 7th in the comp for CB clearences.
 
Okay so it was Egan's ability to judge a ball in the air and not Fraser's kick that was to blame. Sorry, Fraser's kick was crap. Egan probably made the decision about where the ball was going a split second too late. But even if he had made that decision at the right time there was no way he would have been able to mark it.

But I'll ask you, is Egan responsible for his poor disposals or is it the fault of the person he is trying to kick it to for not making up the ground, or slowing down? Can't have it both ways champ.

It shows a complete lack of understanding of football on your behalf to say that O'Bree is a dud. Without O'Bree who wins the stoppages? Say what you want about his disposal etc, but he is very effective at winning the ball and sending it forward, and you just can't over estimate the value of that.

I am very confident that Egan will develop into a Michael O'Laughlin type of footballer (all apologies to Therussian if I have spelt an opposition player's name incorrectly). But hey, you guys are the geniuses who can see that he is a dud. I just don't understand how you can say he is soft and lazy. Is Tarrant lazy? Is Pendlebury soft? Egan is prepared to back into a pack. He works to space to provide a link. That is not soft.

Egan is young and very talented. We will see the benefit of that talent over the next 5 years. Just stop bagging out players like Egan who have potential and are starting to show it. Save that for the Morrisons, Walkers and Halls of this world.
 
augie said:
But I'll ask you, is Egan responsible for his poor disposals or is it the fault of the person he is trying to kick it to for not making up the ground, or slowing down? Can't have it both ways champ.
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Egan's fault.

I am very confident that Egan will develop into a Michael O'Laughlin type of footballer (all apologies to Therussian if I have spelt an opposition player's name incorrectly). But hey, you guys are the geniuses who can see that he is a dud. I just don't understand how you can say he is soft and lazy. Is Tarrant lazy? Is Pendlebury soft? Egan is prepared to back into a pack. He works to space to provide a link. That is not soft.
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Never ever seen Egan back into a pack in AFL so I think you're making that up.

He will never be the O'Loughlin type because he isnt big enough to play that role.

Tarrant isnt lazy. He works hard all day but gets frustrated too easily when blokes dont kick to him. However I can understand his frustration. Pendlebury has shown signs of being soft. Has squibbed a couple of times but its hard to judge a first year player (especially a midfielder )s o we'll wait til next year.
 
augie said:
Okay so it was Egan's ability to judge a ball in the air and not Fraser's kick that was to blame. Sorry, Fraser's kick was crap. Egan probably made the decision about where the ball was going a split second too late. But even if he had made that decision at the right time there was no way he would have been able to mark it.

But I'll ask you, is Egan responsible for his poor disposals or is it the fault of the person he is trying to kick it to for not making up the ground, or slowing down? Can't have it both ways champ.

It shows a complete lack of understanding of football on your behalf to say that O'Bree is a dud. Without O'Bree who wins the stoppages? Say what you want about his disposal etc, but he is very effective at winning the ball and sending it forward, and you just can't over estimate the value of that.

I am very confident that Egan will develop into a Michael O'Laughlin type of footballer (all apologies to Therussian if I have spelt an opposition player's name incorrectly). But hey, you guys are the geniuses who can see that he is a dud. I just don't understand how you can say he is soft and lazy. Is Tarrant lazy? Is Pendlebury soft? Egan is prepared to back into a pack. He works to space to provide a link. That is not soft.

Egan is young and very talented. We will see the benefit of that talent over the next 5 years. Just stop bagging out players like Egan who have potential and are starting to show it. Save that for the Morrisons, Walkers and Halls of this world.
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Augie, you are taking the ***** son!

- He should've marked it, its as simple as that.

- If Egan stuffs up a kick, who's elses fault could it possible be? Micks in the coaches box?

- Mick O'Loughlin is a quailty player who can take contested marks in packs or in one on contests, is smart enough to know when to lead and when not to lead, kicks straight, is a smart footballer and one that tackles, chases and spoils when not in best position. Can you attribute any of these characteristics to one Chris Egan?

- Complete lack of understanding on my behalf. I can quite confidently say I have a very good understanding of the game. I understand the role that O'Bree plays in the side, when we were flying, he was playing well. Where was he against Adelaide, Essendon and Port Adelaide or in any game we lost in the second half of the year? He has not been sighted. I'd prefer Scotty Burns in his role any day of the week. There is little point in clearing the ball if you give it straight back to the opposition!

- Don't think I said he was Lazy

- One point we can agree on, Morrison, Walker and Hall are duds! :):thumbsu:
 
augie said:
Okay so it was Egan's ability to judge a ball in the air and not Fraser's kick that was to blame. Sorry, Fraser's kick was crap. Egan probably made the decision about where the ball was going a split second too late. But even if he had made that decision at the right time there was no way he would have been able to mark it.

But I'll ask you, is Egan responsible for his poor disposals or is it the fault of the person he is trying to kick it to for not making up the ground, or slowing down? Can't have it both ways champ.

It shows a complete lack of understanding of football on your behalf to say that O'Bree is a dud. Without O'Bree who wins the stoppages? Say what you want about his disposal etc, but he is very effective at winning the ball and sending it forward, and you just can't over estimate the value of that.

I am very confident that Egan will develop into a Michael O'Laughlin type of footballer (all apologies to Therussian if I have spelt an opposition player's name incorrectly). But hey, you guys are the geniuses who can see that he is a dud. I just don't understand how you can say he is soft and lazy. Is Tarrant lazy? Is Pendlebury soft? Egan is prepared to back into a pack. He works to space to provide a link. That is not soft.

Egan is young and very talented. We will see the benefit of that talent over the next 5 years. Just stop bagging out players like Egan who have potential and are starting to show it. Save that for the Morrisons, Walkers and Halls of this world.
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Just to set the record straight, your mate was the spelling mistake wizard, i merely replied to it.
We've obviously trampled upon a nest of Obree fans here, ok he's 7th in clearences blah, blah, blah, there is a difference between getting a CLEAR clearance (to another Collingwood player) and clearing the footy by chucking it on the boot to nowhere and opening up the field if the opposition is on the end of the punt

Taz USED to run a mile to get kicks, he was murdered by the press for getting kicks on the wing and not being damaging, he's now lazy because he is told to get his kicks in the forward line, and the blokes who are kicking the footy to him are the likes of OBREE, LOCKYER, JOHNSON and LICURIA, 4 of the worst kicks in the league, (yes since his knees went Lockyer kicking has gone to the gutter.) He is ****ed off, And i would be too,
[yes i'm waiting for the he's payed a squillion and his body language is terrible blah, blah I AGREE]

Pendlebury's was an isolated incident, let it go,

And dont worry the Morrisons and Walkers dont escape the radar
 
Sloth and Cassius say it was Egan's fault that Fraser made a skill error. How can I argue with that.

Cassius says that Egan is too small to be an O'Laughlin type of player. Sorry I didn't understand that O'Laughlin was 190cm and 89kg when he was 19. Hasn't put a pound on since.

Sloth I would also prefer Burns in O'Bree's role, but surely you would accept that Burns can't go in that role all game, and his time in that role has to diminish as he gets older.

You have asked what characteristics that O'Laughlin possesses that Egan also has. Pretty happy to say that Egan chases and tackles (averaging 3 per game the past 5). Can't say too much about spoiling, but I think the decision making in terms of when you spoil and when you try to mark comes with experience, and Egan is probably no different now than O'Laughlin was in his first few years. Probably ditto for leading, but I have not had a problem at all with Egan's decision making in terms of when to lead this year. As for kicking straight - good set shot, struggled with snaps. O'Laughlin 32.28 this year. Egan 7.3.

Therussian - I wasn't having a go at Tarrant or Pendlebury - just highlighting how quick some of us are to jump on and off individual players when something goes wrong. In future I will ring a bell when I am being sarcastic. Also I think the Johnno is one of the worst kicks in the league call is a shocker. Has been very effective this year.
 
I thought there was nothing wrong with Fraser's kick, it was Egans inability to read the ball in the air, therefore his skill error and fault.

He should have taken the mark, end of story if you ask me.
 

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I don’t have anything against Egan and I hope like hell he becomes a star. Unfortunately to date I have seen very little impact. On quarter against WCE (I think) last year and 1 pretty good game this year. He murders the ball at times. He is young enough to dismiss all that at this point but he does have to improve next season. The reality of AFL is that every year you have to cull around 5 and the better your list the m ore likely you are to have to cull someone that might make it yet. Egan definitely won’t go this year but after next season he will be one that will be considered if he doesn’t have more impact more often. A few retirements might mean we don’t have to cull deep though. Time will tell.
 
augie said:
Sloth and Cassius say it was Egan's fault that Fraser made a skill error. How can I argue with that.
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:confused:

Say what?
 
Timmy from Thomastown said:
He's also shown signs of being tough as nails. He's laid his skinny runty body on the line several times in his short career against players 30kg heavier than himself.
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Agreed. Definately in the packs he has shown that he can go in hard. Its just the high balls when going back to mark. SHouldnt be a problem for a midfielder anyway.
 
bomber5 said:
I thought there was nothing wrong with Fraser's kick, it was Egans inability to read the ball in the air, therefore his skill error and fault.

He should have taken the mark, end of story if you ask me.
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Whats all this about Frasers kick?

When did this happen?
 

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Egan Egan Egan, i really think he could be a really good player, the problem is when ever i see him his being blown away by the wind, put on some muscles and he can get better
 
Therussian said:
this is a joke right????

EGAN IS AN OUT AND OUT DUD,
Do you people go to the footy, especially you Lonie from 50, you're 3 favorite players are the 3 that cause the most angst. Lonie, O'bree and Egan, and let me guess, you're a fan of Tarkyn Lockyer as well.
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Moron,

I don't go around calling players from my club I support 'IN AND OUT DUDS' when they are young kids who haven't seen their best days. Egan hasn't shown enough to say he is a good player, a best 22 player (which he is at the moment in a side playing finals), but I look for positives in every player at the club. Egan has arrogance and will be cold some times, but he can be a good performer when on and do some very very nice things, and to see a kid step into a side when his position is questioned and on the line, still manage to play with arrogance and the way he was bought up to play, and the way that saw him picked up in the top 10. He has the potential to be a player you come to the footy to watch.

And to answer your other ridiculous statements. I do go watch the football as much as I can, which is regularly, I am paid up and have been for years now, and I support my team on football forums to top it off, and I have earnt enough respect on the boards for people to look at my opinions and see where I am coming from before getting the blowtorch out. Just because my username states a player, doesn't mean it is my favourite. Lonie is a softco*k and always will be, and boy do I let him know about it on the outer, but then again, the positives (think outside the square my friend) are that he has a role in the side each week, and his role is to be a receiver, and even though we hate it, smart people know it. O'Bree isn't one of my all-time favourites either. I just refuse to let the lack of respect from my own (people like you) having a go at him when he does enough to earn a spot, and when he has a good game you can jump on the O'B bandwagon, or still pay no attention.
 
He seemed to have judged didaks pass pretty well against sydney. Whilst it was a good kick from dids, it was akward for egan to mark/judge. He did it well.

Also his kicking for goal seems to be as good as, if not better than most players in our best 22.
 
Nardz said:
He seemed to have judged didaks pass pretty well against sydney. Whilst it was a good kick from dids, it was akward for egan to mark/judge. He did it well.

Also his kicking for goal seems to be as good as, if not better than most players in our best 22.
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His kicking has improved out of sight since his debut season. He seems more composed now when he gets the ball too.
 

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