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The guy who stayed loyal and became a one club legend...
Why is John Coleman a Legend?
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wow, more proof of your higher intellect ........
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I think that was my point arse finder..
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Why not?
What is this FR? Pretend I'm Hodgepodge day? Arbitrary stats is arbitrary. Come up with all the stats you want, this crying is beneath you
Glad to hear it, now if you had a point I'd also like to hear that.
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The guy who stayed loyal and became a one club legend...
Not hard to stay loyal when you're only there 5 minutes.
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What is this FR? Pretend I'm Hodgepodge day? Arbitrary stats is arbitrary. Come up with all the stats you want, this crying is beneath you
Not crying more pondering in disbelief...
The criteria is simple enough. John Coleman never played in a full season where someone kicked more goals than him. Never.
No other football player in VFL/AFL history has achieved this.
Seems straightforward enough to me.
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That period is still worse then Richmond's CURRENT predicament that started in 1980......
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Dick Lee was the father of all Full forwards, leading scorer eight frikken times. Coventry kicked the first ton, and the most goals until Plugger proved he was the best ever FF.
Hudson may be in the mix but Dunstall was even better for mine, in the top 5 FFs of all time for sure. Fanning and Pratt were less consistent, still as good as Coleman or better.
Coleman wasn't even Essendon's best FF, Salmon has him covered. Not Essendon's best player, King Dick was possibly the best ever. Played a handful of seasons in a truly shit era, and the Bombers still cream their pies over him.
Incredibly involved critera? Floggishly one-eyed argument? Haduken, you've turned into HodgePodge.
Hudson may be in the mix but Dunstall was even better for mine, in the top 5 FFs of all time for sure. Fanning and Pratt were less consistent, still as good as Coleman or better.
Coleman wasn't even Essendon's best FF, Salmon has him covered. Not Essendon's best player, King Dick was possibly the best ever. Played a handful of seasons in a truly shit era, and the Bombers still cream their pies over him.
The criteria is simple enough. John Coleman never played in a full season where someone kicked more goals than him. Never.
No other football player in VFL/AFL history has achieved this.
Seems straightforward enough to me.
Incredibly involved critera? Floggishly one-eyed argument? Haduken, you've turned into HodgePodge.
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Really? You're quoting the AFL now? Sad day. Next you'll be saying Silvagni was a great FB.That's the criteria the AFL used. I'm simply stating the truth you silly man
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The criteria is simple enough. John Coleman never played in a full season where someone kicked more goals than him. Never.
No other football player in VFL/AFL history has achieved this.
Seems straightforward enough to me.
When the club you're playing for is a consistent finals side and wins flags, you should have a bloke kicking goals.
Yet in his full five seasons, Coleman only kicked 495 goals.
Hudson kicked 598 in his first five seasons and yet his side wasn't even good enough to make the finals in four of those years.
Worse side = Less opportunities yet he's kicked 103 more goals?
Not the entire footy world, just the one eyed and delusional....
Is the same one eyed and delusional people who named the goal-kicking award after him and added a statue of him to the MCG?
Those delusional people?
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Is the same one eyed and delusional people who named the goal-kicking award after him and added a statue of him to the MCG?
Those delusional people?
I've already addressed the issue with the medal naming - another black smudge on the Essendon report card.
And given the propensity for the AFL community to pump up past champions and then fall in love with 'the story', what records has Coleman set that are unmatched? FFS, most of what he achieved has been bettered by other players. Even Allen Jackovich, for Christ sake.
He's got those things through his 'story'. If he hadn't died young, he'd be just another hasbeen that faded into the history books.
Makes you wonder what Neil Sachse or Peter Motley did to be ignored given their talented careers were also cut short by injury.
Shit, even Lee Walker deserves a HoF spot given all you need is potential and a good story.
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Hudson's rarely placed in the top bracket with Coleman, Coventry and Lockett. He's back with Wade, Titus, Lloyd and Dunstall, just ahead of Beecroft, Serafini and Templeton.
Given Hudson's stats it appears wrong, I agree. Think you might be onto something.
It's only because he played for Hawthorn.
Hudson - overlooked
Dunstall - same
Tuck - would be a legend if he played for anyone else. Kids today have never heard of him, Alle de Wolde has more profile.
Big Fish - played his career at Essendon, crosses to Hawthorn for 5 minutes and makes their TOTC.
It's because we're big and awesome, and you're small and shit.
I think that's solved this conundrum. Any time.
Let's move onto the next one - why did Dick Reynolds receive all those accolades when Grant Birchall gets more rebound 50s?
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I know I'm on to something. Hence the thread.
Geez, you were doing well but Hudson IS an AFL Legend. He was inducted years ago.
Dunstall is already in the HoF and will no doubt be elevated given he has only enhanced his reputation post AFL career.
And Tuck is a bona fide legend. He was made a legend of the Hawthorn FC a few years back.
He also has a medal named after him...
Funny as Fish played more games for Hawthorn than Cololeman did all up...
I think you may be right! Although, I need to amend a few things:
"It's because we're big and awesome, and you're small and shit" should be "It's because we're USED to be big and awesome, and you USED to be small and shit."
See in 1980's, when Essendon were still relevant and successful, they named the Coleman Medal. Then you became shit and since then, you've had virtually nothing named after anyone.
Hawthorn on the other hand have won 7 flags and now one of the most prestigious awards is named after Leigh Matthews and Michael Tuck even has a medal.
See it all goes back to Allen Aylett and Greg Sewell - the bum chums from school. You scratch my back and all that.
I guess being rich, powerful and successful does have its benefits.
If only Birch had done his knee and then died. The premiership cup would have his name on it....
