Why the negativity towards Eade?

[WaynesWorld19]

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin

If Wallace chooses the Hawks, then we should explore all possible options - ie. Eade, O'Donnell, etc. I personally don't have a 2nd preference at the moment.

I'm with you in that I am totally indifferent to all other candidates.
Maybe because we haven't heard them speak publicly about their philosophies and the Crows position - its the unknown factor.

 

[Jerome]

In case you missed the news, he was in town today for an interview with AFC.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by Jerome
In case you missed the news, he was in town today for an interview with AFC.

I'd like to know when are we flying Wallace in.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
Given our financial strength & bad need to rebuild, we must do everything to go after the best available coach - & that is not Craig!!!

IMO, Wallace is the best choice & given our stability off-field, would be very disappointed if we couldn't attract him to AFC (as compared to the Tigers & Hawks).

If Wallace chooses the Hawks, then we should explore all possible options - ie. Eade, O'Donnell, etc. I personally don't have a 2nd preference at the moment.

No doubt Wallace would prefer the Crows!!!

His decision to take the Hawthorn job will be purely based on Adelaide's in-action and in-decisiveness

 

[spindoctor]

I'm on the Eade train.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Originally posted by spindoctor
I'm on the Eade train.

He'd be my second choice

 

[spindoctor]

Wallace is my third choice for the following reasons:

1. I am concerned about his drafting record
2. I think his gameplan was one inherently designed to fail in finals...basically the same gameplan that Mark Williams has tried and failed with Port the last few seasons.
3. I think he overrates our list a bit too much.

My first choice is Eade - brilliant matchday coach, astute tactician and experienced.

My second choice is O'Donnell...for some reason I have a good feeling about him - played under Sheedy, coached under Matthews and is highlt rated by Matthews - not a small rap from one of the greatest.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Originally posted by spindoctor
Wallace is my third choice for the following reasons:

1. I am concerned about his drafting record
2. I think his gameplan was one inherently designed to fail in finals...basically the same gameplan that Mark Williams has tried and failed with Port the last few seasons.
3. I think he overrates our list a bit too much.

My first choice is Eade - brilliant matchday coach, astute tactician and experienced.

My second choice is O'Donnell...for some reason I have a good feeling about him - played under Sheedy, coached under Matthews and is highlt rated by Matthews - not a small rap from one of the greatest.

It may well fall that way too.
To be honest I wouldn't be too unhappy with Eade.

A lot of the angst with Eade is media generated. Was highly thought of by Barrassi and Eade did not have the luxury of using youth to rebuild.

The Sydney market demanded he be in the finals continuously not neccessarily a flag contender.

 

[Leaping Lindner]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
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Fryzie also reckons he wouldn't be a good get for the Crows

That's good enough for me. GET Eade.
And go away Ryan your 15 minutes are well and truly up.

I've been on the Wallace train since Ayres left but I am now starting to lean toward Eade.
On the radio here today they were talking about the three clubs needing coaches and the available candidates. The reporter (sorry forgotten his name) said he thought that if any of the available coaches could choose were they go they would no doubt choose Adelaide, as why would anyone want to go to Hawthorn or Richmond at the moment. I suppose this is as much to do with the infighting at those clubs as anything. Interesting comments I thought though considering the percieved anti-Adelaide bias of the Melbourne media by some people.

 

[Nige_Bix]

A point of clarification - been avoiding media, internet etc fora bit so out of touch -- have the crows spoken to eade? - if so then they surely must not be worried by what happened a few years ago and he would be a candidate.

My feelings are that he and Wallace have us as their 1st preference.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by dezzmo
A point of clarification - been avoiding media, internet etc fora bit so out of touch -- have the crows spoken to eade? - if so then they surely must not be worried by what happened a few years ago and he would be a candidate.

My feelings are that he and Wallace have us as their 1st preference.

Welcome back dezzmo

Yes AFC have spoken to Eade. He flew into Adelaide yesterday for preliminary discussions which went on for a couple of hours. We have had informal discussions with Wallace and he is yet to have a meeting.

dezzmo I have no doubt that both Wallace and Eade (especially Wallace) see us as their number 1 preference. Eade looks desperate and will take anything offered to him. Wallace on the other hand is not as desperate and will take up the position if he feels its right. He has practically told Adelaide come and get me.

 

[Mong]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
dezzmo I have no doubt that both Wallace and Eade (especially Wallace) see us as their number 1 preference.

I get the same impression with Eade. It appears he'd do anything to coach the Crows next year. As for Wallace, I'm not quite as sure as you but I hope you are right. If you are then welcome aboard Terry, because I have no doubt he will be our first choice.


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[arrowman]

Originally posted by Wayne's-World
No doubt Wallace would prefer the Crows!!!

His decision to take the Hawthorn job will be purely based on Adelaide's in-action and in-decisiveness

Um, yeah... I mean, any club that takes more that two weeks to appoint a new coach is being "indecisive".

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Originally posted by arrowman
Um, yeah... I mean, any club that takes more that two weeks to appoint a new coach is being "indecisive".

Gotta take that statement in its context.
Hawthorn was reportedly going to make their coaching appointment in 2-3 weeks, knowing basicly who they wanted to approach (Wallace)

The AFC had stated their decision would be made in mid September.

My comment on Adelaides in-decissiveness was based upon the actions of the other clubs actions

 

[arrowman]

Fair enough; seeing as how you agreed 100% with me on another thread I'm glad we're not disagreeing here.

If Hawthorn (or any other club) wants to make a quick decision without properly investigating all the options, that's their call. But if they make an offer to Wallace (say) and Wallace is interested in Adelaide also, then he should/would talk to Adelaide at that time. If he has a strong preference for Hawthorn, and they offer him the job, then nothing is lost. But I think it should be expected that
a) a professional club will take its time and
b) a profession coach will explore all the options and not just take the first offer (unless it really is his preference).

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Originally posted by arrowman

But if they make an offer to Wallace (say) and Wallace is interested in Adelaide also, then he should/would talk to Adelaide at that time. If he has a strong preference for Hawthorn, and they offer him the job, then nothing is lost. But I think it should be expected that
a) a professional club will take its time and
b) a profession coach will explore all the options and not just take the first offer (unless it really is his preference).

Yes a professional club should take its time.

Wallace has indicated that he will not play one club off against the other.
If he were offered a position by Hawthorn, even though Adelaide is his preferred option, he would take the Hawthorn job.

A bird in the hand

The constant rumours of Craig signed sealed and delivered would not help that situation.

Wallace going back to Adelaide saying I have a job offer, IMO would not speed up Adelaides decision process

 

[arrowman]

When you've got more than one job application running it's not "playing one off against the other" to check your status with Company B after Company A makes the first offer, it's just good practice and one that all parties should recognise. If Hawthorn made a prompt offer to Wallace (or anyone else) they should not expect a prompt answer.

Whether or not Adelaide could give a sensible answer in that situation is another matter, but you've got to fnd out (in Wallace's shoes). At this stage of the year we're probably only talking a matter of a couple of weeks' difference in the decision making timeframe so it could be managed.

As for the rumours - I thnk Wallace (and others) are too smart to believe this sort of rumour (even if it has been repeated on Melbourne radio, which according to another poster gives it greater credibility )

 

[Baldrick]

Originally posted by arrowman

As for the rumours - I thnk Wallace (and others) are too smart to believe this sort of rumour (even if it has been repeated on Melbourne radio, which according to another poster gives it greater credibility )

I agree. I also think that TW has an attitude that it's AFC or nothing (this year at least) because of the turmoil at the other clubs.

If this is the case then regardless of the rumourmill, his strategy will be the same. Eade is a different kettle of fish though.

 

[marvin]

Originally posted by dezzmo
A point of clarification - been avoiding media, internet etc fora bit so out of touch --

Fitzy??? Is that really you?????

 

[Blue Red and Gold]

Wallace is my preferred choice, look at the success he has the WB he didnt have a great squad but was able to take em to consecutive Prelim's.
Eade, yes, a great tactician of the game, but he is a defensive coach and personally i dont think i want to watch the AFC for the next 3 years at least playing defensive football, its not entertaining...we've got to let the young kids run, trust their skills.

 

[Bojangles17]

Originally posted by spindoctor
Ths is a coach who got a serial wooden-spooner to a regular finals performer in a very short time.

He is universally ackowledged as one of the best matchday coaches in the business.

And he was NOT always negative, despite what Stiffy has been claiming. He may have invented the flood, but he did not employ it in every bloody game.

He is a very good tactical coach, and I would not be unhappy with him at all.

popular opinion is that the crows post would be about the worst going...list is chronic and expectations always rampant....Vic coaches are simply in a NO win situation.....John Cahill would be more chance than eade/wallace

 

[Crow-mosone]

Re: Re: Why the negativity towards Eade?

Originally posted by Bojangles17
popular opinion is that the crows post would be about the worst going...list is chronic and expectations always rampant....Vic coaches are simply in a NO win situation.....John Cahill would be more chance than eade/wallace

Forgive me if I disagree...

 

[ClintEastwood]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Read mymansyd's post and you will get the picture. The Crows are down right dirty on him and there is no chance in hell he will be coaching us.

Bizarre that they would interview him then

Eade fan here by the way. Hope u dont get him

 

[Jerome]

Pies talks for Eade
By Jon Pierik
July 29, 2004

RODNEY EADE will fly into Melbourne today for what was supposed to be a secret meeting with Collingwood.

At the request of Magpies president Eddie McGuire, it's believed Eade is to be interviewed about a senior position in the football department where he would work closely with coach Mick Malthouse.

The position could also involve a mentoring role.

McGuire, while annoyed news of the meeting had been leaked, last night confirmed the Pies would fly Eade down.

"We are catching up, we will talk about a number of things," he said.

The Pies yesterday sacked Scott Cummings from his part-time role as forward coach, but he will still retain an off-field role with the club.

Cummings' demotion could be the start of a football department shake-up as the Pies, grand finalists for the past two years, seek to rebound from a disappointing season in which they will miss the finals.

Eade is regarded as a brilliant match-day coach and tactically would add a lot in the Collingwood box.

But there is no suggestion Malthouse is about to lose his job.

"There is no worries with Mick," McGuire said.

Eade, the former Sydney coach, has already spoken with Adelaide and Richmond officials regarding their vacant coaching positions and has been mooted as a possible successor to Peter Schwab at Hawthorn.

He met with Richmond powerbroker Greg Miller, the man charged with the responsibility of finding a new coach, last week and is believed to be the Tigers' second choice behind Terry Wallace.

Eade could not be contacted last night.

Herald Sun

 

[arrowman]

The idea that the Crows would be "dirty" on Eade because of 1999 is ridiculous. He was contracted to Sydney and told the club he wouldn't break that contract. That's not the same as refusing to contemplate a club's offer when you're free to do so.