Wimbledon 2007

[gaelictiogar]

Your analysis of Djoko's game is pretty accurate but look at he final at montreal. I fully expected him to cause huge problems for federer and he did and Fed was playing the best tennis he's played since melbourne.

It is Big 3 from now on and neither Fed or nadal will want to be bumping into him.

The inevitable is beginning to happen with Roger and his fall from No.1 is beginning. he is losing games he would have won 1 or 2 years ago and the aura of invincibility is slipping. He is still the best and most rounded player on tour but never again will he own 8,000 ranking points and i say that as a fan of his.

Nadal's caaim to an extended run at No.1 is compromised by his not being able heretofore to add a good July-Dec. to a good Jan.-June and that seems unchanged. in this scenario there is every reason to believe Djoko has a good shot at No.1 perhaps early in 2009 which is when i expect federer to lose the position. he isn't and won't be federer but even he can't be federer for years on end.

 

[Total Power]

Your analysis of Djoko's game is pretty accurate but look at he final at montreal. I fully expected him to cause huge problems for federer and he did and Fed was playing the best tennis he's played since melbourne.

It is Big 3 from now on and neither Fed or nadal will want to be bumping into him.

The inevitable is beginning to happen with Roger and his fall from No.1 is beginning. he is losing games he would have won 1 or 2 years ago and the aura of invincibility is slipping. He is still the best and most rounded player on tour but never again will he own 8,000 ranking points and i say that as a fan of his.

Nadal's caaim to an extended run at No.1 is compromised by his not being able heretofore to add a good July-Dec. to a good Jan.-June and that seems unchanged. in this scenario there is every reason to believe Djoko has a good shot at No.1 perhaps early in 2009 which is when i expect federer to lose the position. he isn't and won't be federer but even he can't be federer for years on end.

I disagree.If he makes the semis of US open and makes the semis of all the masters series events and masters cup events from here on, he will gain 800 ranking points from here on (cause he is not defending much). Which means if Federer wins everything from here on, the gap between nadal and fed will be 800 points by December 2007. Which means the number 1 ranking is well within Nadals reach by mid 2008

While Novak is a fantastic player i think you are overrating him at the moment.He is has not shown any consistency so far.Yes he is 20 years old, but lets wait and see how it turns out before saying that he will be the future world number 1.

 

[gaelictiogar]

Big "If" about rafa TP. Huge "if". The psychological impact on the top 2 of Nole's arrival may be huge. Fed knows in his heart the empire is going to end. his unforced error count recently has been colossal for a player of his gifts and that indicates a man trying to get off court early, a man no longer really wanting to fight it out and irritated if his genius isn't enough to prevail. Basically Fed seems brittle adn wayward since melbourne.

Rafa may squeak a few months at no.1 but his lack of a serious serve and a real all courts game will hamper him. He knows well that he had to thank Djoko's injury for his semi win at Wimbledon and he knows he lost in straingt sets at Montreal.

The new kid on the block could be anything. He is on form the best player in the world and quite possibly would have won Wimbledon had he been injury free.

 

[Total Power]

Big "If" about rafa TP. Huge "if". The psychological impact on the top 2 of Nole's arrival may be huge. Fed knows in his heart the empire is going to end. his unforced error count recently has been colossal for a player of his gifts and that indicates a man trying to get off court early, a man no longer really wanting to fight it out and irritated if his genius isn't enough to prevail. Basically Fed seems brittle adn wayward since melbourne.

Rafa may squeak a few months at no.1 but his lack of a serious serve and a real all courts game will hamper him. He knows well that he had to thank Djoko's injury for his semi win at Wimbledon and he knows he lost in straingt sets at Montreal.

The new kid on the block could be anything. He is on form the best player in the world and quite possibly would have won Wimbledon had he been injury free.

Why is it a big IF GT? i have assumed that federer wins everything from here on and rafa makes the semis only from here on.If Nole beats fed or rafa beats fed then Rafa gains points.Nole is still 2,000 points behind rafa and 3,700 points behind federer.Plus he is not consistent at all and is crap at clay courts (unlike fed).I dont think nole is in the hunt for world number 1 in 2008. 2009 maybe

 

[gaelictiogar]

I actuially agree about 2008. Earlier on I said 2009. 2008 is effectively impossible for Djoko but he is it has to be said on a huge upward curve.

In ways he irritates me with the constant overdone ball bouncing. I'd call him on it were I umpire - but he is undeniably a major presence from now on.

 

[Total Power]

I actuially agree about 2008. Earlier on I said 2009. 2008 is effectively impossible for Djoko but he is it has to be said on a huge upward curve.

In ways he irritates me with the constant overdone ball bouncing. I'd call him on it were I umpire - but he is undeniably a major presence from now on.

i was just about to type his ball bouncing.I have counted it, he bounced it 32 times before serving at wimbledon.That can upset the returners rhythm very easily.People whine about rafas time wasting but funny no one says anything about Nole

Djoko has a bright future anyway but come on, where are federer fans now? federer fans will now move onto djoko bandwagon?? this is what shits me, when federer is losing, no one bothers to show up

 

[gaelictiogar]

It's not a question of being a Federer fan or a Djokovic fan or anything else. The reason I and others mention Nole is the fact that clearly ( notwithstanding his defeat at Cincinnati ) he is now a threat to anyone and everyone.

Federer remains the best player in the world. He remains the player most attractive to those who love the game because he is the best. Neither Djokovic, Nadal or anyone else in their generation will ever reach the heights he has reached since they don't have his grace, his elegance, his timing, his shot range. In short he has more game than either of them.

However every champion fades eventually and Federer may have begun to fade. He will remain No.1 for quite some time to come. He remains the best player. At their best neither Nadal of Djokovic will ever be as good as Fed as his best - they don't have the game - but mentioning that Nole is on an upswing is just seeing the obvious.

 

[Syd Kennets]

I disagree.If he makes the semis of US open and makes the semis of all the masters series events and masters cup events from here on, he will gain 800 ranking points from here on (cause he is not defending much). Which means if Federer wins everything from here on, the gap between nadal and fed will be 800 points by December 2007. Which means the number 1 ranking is well within Nadals reach by mid 2008

While Novak is a fantastic player i think you are overrating him at the moment.He is has not shown any consistency so far.Yes he is 20 years old, but lets wait and see how it turns out before saying that he will be the future world number 1.

What if he retires hurt in the 2nd round of all the masters series events, please TP add that up for me!!

 

[Total Power]

What if he retires hurt in the 2nd round of all the masters series events, please TP add that up for me!!

It was just hypothetical yeah he retired hurt so what? he has no points to defend other than US open anyway, anything he does here is a gain for him.

 

[Ricketts]

Lucky for him he retired hurt, he was losing anyway.

 

[Total Power]

Lucky for him he retired hurt, he was losing anyway.

he was hurt, he couldnt move at all.Funny how you comment when you didnt see the match at all.He wont lose to a claycourter like monaco on any surface. He owns monaco anyway who is yet to win a set against him before this match

 

[Total Power]

( Djok would have beaten him in the semi if fit and will never again lose to him away from clay), he's the best on clay and he is a great campaigner but coughing up the last 4 games in succession? Choke perhaps?

get your excuses in line now, i will start.....

he was playing crap

he was injured

he was not serious about this tournament

 

[Geddy Lee]

Nole hasn't been able to last the whole season, he is very fatigued.

They are all playing like goddamn muppets at the TMC except for Ferrer though. Highest quality tennis in November was from two guys called David that speak Spanish.

 

[Total Power]

Nole hasn't been able to last the whole season, he is very fatigued.

They are all playing like goddamn muppets at the TMC except for Ferrer though. Highest quality tennis in November was from two guys called David that speak Spanish.

so thats rafas fault that he is fatigued? if i give the same excuse for rafa you will call me a whinger.If nole cant manage his schedule its his fault, rafa won it fair and square

 

[Geddy Lee]

so thats rafas fault that he is fatigued? if i give the same excuse for rafa you will call me a whinger.If nole cant manage his schedule its his fault, rafa won it fair and square

No I don't care about excuses.

Djokovic shouldn't have bothered playing the TMC. He played pathetically in all of his matches, but showed up for the money, because that's what the man is about. Another reason I can't stand him.

Rafa beat him and will probably beat him again on hardcourts. GT made a daft call.