Winderlich's Back

[anf06]

Take this rumor as you please.
I am not claiming to know the inside scoop, and it may well be false information, but i will share what i have heard.

Firstly, Merry Christmas to all.

Today at christmas lunch, i was talking to my uncle, all things footy, and he told me something quite interesting, and shocking, whilst not being surprising.
Now lets get one thing clear, i am skeptical of this being true because i do not know the person who started the information.
He was apparently told that Winder's back is still playing up, and improvement is much slower than expected, and that he wouldn't resume full football for a very long while. The exact words were 'career over'.

Don't flame me or what not, im just passing on what i have heard. I have no doubt that this ex-footballer was told this, as he isnt one to start a ridiculous rumor.

Keep clear that this is just a rumor, but an interesting one, and im just sharing what i have heard.

 

[yaco55]

It is a distinct possibility because Winderlich has a delicate injury and he needed a second operation.

Ant555 could shed further light on this injury.

We need to wait and see what eventuates.

 

[Merv]

I wouldn't be surprised at all and here are my comments made on his profile earlier this month

He could be closer to ending his career than reigniting it.

He has had 2 very serious back operations now and with his years of prior injuries i doubt he will ever become the player he could have.

 

[Smyth94]

I wouldn't be surprised at all and here are my comments made on his profile earlier this month

I really don't have much confidence either

It really is a flippin' shame as not only did he have some serious talent - he busted his arse and bled for the club. I really, really wanted to see him succeed.

 

[Big Blow Hard]

It would be a shame to see his career end this way. I never had the faith in him being fantastic like some do, but noone deserves to have their chances to prove themselves curtailed so cruelly.

Strong possibility of a rookie being upgraded early if they deserve it. A real bummer to be hearing about Essendon injuries before the season has started, even if we were already aware of it.

 

[ant555]

As far as the chances of the injury keeping Winders from playing again. That part is a chance. I commented on that after he had his first operation.
For those who don't know the ins and out of what he has had done i will explain as i have had the same operations.
To start with off the top of my head i cant remember if he has had two Discectomy opps or one Laminectomy followed by a discectomy or a combo of both fist time followed by a discectomy the second time.

Anyway the Discectomy is where they go in and remove the prodtruding disc from pressing on the nerve which causes leg pain. The problem with this op is the back pain is not always removed as the disc reamins damaged.
Laminectomy is used when there is a narrowing of the spinal canal or root exit. It involves removing the laminae which is a small area of bone on the vertibrae covering the spinal cord. Any thick ligamnets or bony growths are also removed. By widening the area they relive pressure on the spinal cord or nerve roots.
The problem with both opps is there is a chance of nerve damage simply becasue the have to lift and move them during the operation.
I had two opps like Winders. The first was a combined Discetomy / Laminectomy which worked pretty well but i had to have the follow up Discectomy becasue the disc collapsed a bit more. Both opps can work well and if they get it 100% right most people dont have a lot of problems with it. In my case a couple of the discs where too damaged so i have recently had to have the vertibrae screwed together and fused.

With Winders being 20 odd years young than me and his disc more than likely being in better condition he has a lot bigger chance of complete recovery.
There is however a risk and the recovery varies becasue of the fact that the nerves have to be stretched and moved around alnog with the back muscels lifted.
So the short version is there is a chance that your runour is true howver i doubt it was Winderlichs specialist giving out the information

 

[ant555]

It would be a shame to see his career end this way. I never had the faith in him being fantastic like some do, but noone deserves to have their chances to prove themselves curtailed so cruelly.

Strong possibility of a rookie being upgraded early if they deserve it. A real bummer to be hearing about Essendon injuries before the season has started, even if we were already aware of it.

Too bad you did not watch the replay of the round 3 Ess Carlton game from this yeat that was on Fox a couple of days ago. He was great that day.

 

[Pevers-Legend]

Too bad you did not watch the replay of the round 3 Ess Carlton game from this yeat that was on Fox a couple of days ago. He was great that day.

One game doesn't make a player - he is synonymous with Essendon in the middle of this decade - hyped up but nothing to back it up.

I feel sorry for him as he does try so damn hard - and good luck to him - but really - he is a bonus if he comes good and can break intot he team - otherwise he is joining Dyson at the end of next season.

 

[Big Blow Hard]

Too bad you did not watch the replay of the round 3 Ess Carlton game from this yeat that was on Fox a couple of days ago. He was great that day.

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I never said he had never played a good game Ant. I just don't get excited about his ability. One game does not make a star. See Daniel Metropolis.

To use a much used quote on BF though, "Happy to be proved wrong". And he deserves the chance.

 

[Sam the RAMA fan]

If this is true,
this is such a pitty, He is a great player.
Hope it isn't to serious..and doesn't effect him to much in the future.

Fingers crossed all is well and he is back out there in 09.

 

[yaco55]

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I never said he had never played a good game Ant. I just don't get excited about his ability. One game does not make a star. See Daniel Metropolis.

To use a much used quote on BF though, "Happy to be proved wrong". And he deserves the chance.

Winderlich has shown enough ability to be classified as a GOOD AFL player, but needs to spend more time on the field.

 

[Colin D'Cops]

Interesting stuff, was watching him run a heap at training a week ago but I'm not sure if that's got anything to do with his problem.

If it's true, career over, I will be shattered for him. Worked his arse off in Sheeds's final years to gain a spot in the team every now and again, not even a regular spot, and now his dreams are all but finished.

Hopefully he can make a full recovery and start feeling a bit more healthier.

 

[ant555]

One game doesn't make a player - he is synonymous with Essendon in the middle of this decade - hyped up but nothing to back it up.

I feel sorry for him as he does try so damn hard - and good luck to him - but really - he is a bonus if he comes good and can break intot he team - otherwise he is joining Dyson at the end of next season.

I never said he had never played a good game Ant. I just don't get excited about his ability. One game does not make a star. See Daniel Metropolis.

To use a much used quote on BF though, "Happy to be proved wrong". And he deserves the chance.

Come on. He did not just play one good game. i only made reference to that game simply becasue it was on Fox the other day and i was watching it.
I never said he was a star but his running in that game showed how important he can be.
PL as for him not backing it up or being a one game wonder try 2007. He had 10 games out of 17 with 20 plus disposals and a couple of 19 disposal games.

 

[gothedons18]

Well, that sucks now, doesn't it.

 

[slugger]

Based on his progress over the last few weeks, I have massive doubts there is any truth in this story at all.

 

[gothedons18]

Well, hopefully it isn't.

 

[Skeeta Olly]

Based on his progress over the last few weeks, I have massive doubts there is any truth in this story at all.

Agreed.

 

[The_Young_Gun]

Your uncles not the only one who reads the paper...

I think he was selling the Drama, really...

When he said "Career Ending", he probably over quoted Winda's comments in the paper saying he didn't want this back injury to turn out been 'Career Ending' so thats why he's going to take his time and be very patient with this.

 

[SirJimi05]

Your uncles not the only one who reads the paper...

I think he was selling the Drama, really...

When he said "Career Ending", he probably over quoted Winda's comments in the paper saying he didn't want this back injury to turn out been 'Career Ending' so thats why he's going to take his time and be very patient with this.

Agreed.

 

[anf06]

my uncle didnt get the information from the paper.
it was from someone who was told it first hand.

 

[yaco55]

Come on. He did not just play one good game. i only made reference to that game simply becasue it was on Fox the other day and i was watching it.
I never said he was a star but his running in that game showed how important he can be.
PL as for him not backing it up or being a one game wonder try 2007. He had 10 games out of 17 with 20 plus disposals and a couple of 19 disposal games.

Windlerlich is a fantastic gut runner with good skills.

IMO we need another fantastic gut runner ( beside Winderlich ),to strengthen the side.

Gut runners are invaluable particularly in Red Time at the end of a quarter.

 

[bomber69]

Windlerlich is a fantastic gut runner with good skills.

IMO we need another fantastic gut runner ( beside Winderlich ),to strengthen the side.

Gut runners are invaluable particularly in Red Time at the end of a quarter.

Stanton is a gut runner, however he is not in the same class as Winderlich in terms of disposal.

 

[dons_fan185]

quick question for ant555 about the operations:


the first one - is that the op you MUST have if you're experiencing back and/or shoulder problems, and theres only a 50-50 chance it'll be successful (hence the 2nd).

i've never been clear on the medical terms, but I do know many retired (45 yo+) footballers who've had a series of operations similar to the one you described.

if it is the case then I have a lot of sympathy for Winders for having that kind of issue at such a young age.

 

[yaco55]

Stanton is a gut runner, however he is not in the same class as Winderlich in terms of disposal.

gut running is being able to sprint at top pace many times during a quarter.

think of cousins, bateman, harvey.

Stanton has top endurance but is not a gut runner.

 

[The_Young_Gun]

my uncle didnt get the information from the paper.
it was from someone who was told it first hand.

So your uncles "friend" found out about it... oh, ok, I get it now.