Wingmen to be benefit most from new rules

[LittleGreekGod]

I notice with interest that Wingmen seem to be the greatest benefiterary of the new rules.
It appears that they have the most space around them with the 6 6 6 format.
Some clubs are running highly skilled ball magnets through this space like Selwood, Treloar and Sheed and all are racking up huge numbers of possessions.
Coaches are experimenting with how they structure up on positioning along the centre square line in both defensive and attacking models. It appears to me that the more astute coaches assume that quality wing men are the key factor in the Run and carry stakes going forward.

 

[Candiru]

Mmmmm...

 

[kid_a]

"ost" means "cheese" in swedish......are you trying to say that wingmen will be able to potentially attain more cheese and thus grow bigger afro`s as a result of the new rules?

 

[Dark Sharks]

 

[hungrytiger]

Yep Sheed is locked in the inside now..In round 3 Gaff will replace Masten and be of better service on the wing.

 

[FKASC]

Ja

 

[kerr87]

Das ist gut!

 

[kerr87]

I notice with interest that Wingmen seem to be the greatest benefiterary of the new rules.
It appears that they have the most space around them with the 6 6 6 format.
Some clubs are running highly skilled ball magnets through this space like Selwood, Treloar and Sheed and all are racking up huge numbers of possessions.
Coaches are experimenting with how they structure up on positioning along the centre square line in both defensive and attacking models. It appears to me that the more astute coaches assume that quality wing men are the key factor in the Run and carry stakes going forward.

Yeah agree.

Gaff, Sheed, Redden when on the wing will tear it up.

More space, more time.

Quick HBF will be become serious weapons by running straight to the wings - Jetta, Watson, Sheppard, Cole - to become an attacking overlap player too.

 

[Max zero]

I notice with interest that Wingmen seem to be the greatest benefiterary of the new rules.
It appears that they have the most space around them with the 6 6 6 format.
Some clubs are running highly skilled ball magnets through this space like Selwood, Treloar and Sheed and all are racking up huge numbers of possessions.
Coaches are experimenting with how they structure up on positioning along the centre square line in both defensive and attacking models. It appears to me that the more astute coaches assume that quality wing men are the key factor in the Run and carry stakes going forward.

6-6-6 benefits WC greatly in general. I make flooding back much less effective which is some other teams (*cough Fremantle cough*) use as their primary means of defence. Add to that our forwards love 1v1s. Once we get NN and Gaff back we will have perfect team to fully take advantage of the new rules.

 

[Brolga]

 

[LittleGreekGod]

Yep Sheed is locked in the inside now..In round 3 Gaff will replace Masten and be of better service on the wing.

Arguably Masten is even more important under the new rules.
Think you missed the Point Tiger.

 

[Max zero]

Arguably Masten is even more important under the new rules.
Think you missed the Point Tiger.

Well who would you drop for Gaff? Our back 6 and forward line are both pretty with good depth. Of our midfield: Shuey, Yeo, Sheed, Redden, Hutchings Masten would probably the last picked.

WC has a very set structure.

6 Forwards + rotation on bench: Mcgovern, Barrass, Hurn, Sheppard, Cole, Jetta, Duggan
6 Backs + rotation on bench: Ruck 1, Shuey, Yeo, Gaff, Sheed, Redden, Hutchings, Ruck 2
6 Mids (inc 1 Ruck) + rotation mid and ruck on bench: Kennedy, Darling, Cripps, Rioli, Ryan, Venables, 3rd Tall

 

[LittleGreekGod]

Well who would you drop for Gaff? Our back 6 and forward line are both pretty with good depth. Of our midfield: Shuey, Yeo, Sheed, Redden, Hutchings Masten would probably the last picked.

WC has a very set structure.

6 Forwards + rotation on bench
6 Backs + rotation on bench
6 Mids (inc 1 Ruck) + rotation mid and ruck on bench

You will notice that during the JLT, Masten worked more back than usual but worked in unison with both Gaff and Sheed.
The more players that can run all day on the outside will be more important than ever.
The name of the game will be run, Run, run.

 

[Max zero]

You will notice that during the JLT, Masten worked more back than usual but worked in unison with both Gaff and Sheed.
The more players that can run all day on the outside will be more important than ever.
The name of the game will be run, Run, run.

Who are we going to drop instead of Masten?

 

[LittleGreekGod]

Nobody.
When was the last time any club had their best 22 on the field.
There is no way we will drop an elite runner with these rule changes.
Also I have serious doubts on their thinking about playing a dedicated tagger in all games under these rules.

 

[Max zero]

Nobody.
When was the last time any club had their best 22 on the field.
There is no way we will drop an elite runner with these rule changes.

So your idea is that Masten won't be dropped because we will always have injuries? Isn't that kinda proving my point that he is borderline best 22 if he only plays if have injuries/suspension?

 

[LittleGreekGod]

So your idea is that Masten won't be dropped because we will always have injuries? Isn't that kinda proving my point that he is borderline best 22 if he only plays if have injuries/suspension?

No, my point is that more than often all three will play because there will always be a spare place in the clubs best 22.
i believe that all three are vital to our chances this year.
However, how the team structures up on any one week may change dramatically this season.
I believe there will be weeks when we run without a tagger, there will be weeks when we run with out a second ruck but I doubt that there will be weeks that we will sacrifice an elite runner.

 

[Max zero]

No, my point is that more than often all three will play because there will always be a spare place in the clubs best 22.
i believe that all three are vital to our chances this year.
However, how the team structures up on any one week may change dramatically this season.
I believe there will be weeks when we run without a tagger, there will be weeks when we run with out a second ruck but I doubt that there will be weeks that we will sacrifice an elite runner.

Well considering Ruckman also benefit from the new rules, we specifically brought in extra ruckman this year and have had a gameplan based around having 2 rucks for several years I don't think we will be going solo ruck in the near future.

Hutchings not only is a great tagger (so naturally strong defensively) he has excellent endurance (tagger requirement) but also sneaks forward for clutch goals (like he did in the GF).

Masten is an elite runner but so is his replacement (Gaff) so we are not losing anything there.

Don't get me wrong I don't think Masten is bad he is stuck in the same position as Schofield: the 23rd best player in the team.

 

[Dark Sharks]

If your Ruckman is injured, and you've got a fit Nicnat waiting to come back into the side.... who do you drop first out of Marsden and Waterman?


hungrytiger

 

[DanWCE]

I find it pretty funny that someone has edited the thread title and still cocked it up.

 

[Astro7]

Oops, the bandage gets ripped off and opens that old Masten wound again..?
Gaff is the better version, with skills. It will sort itself out.
But am curious to see how quickly, and where this new 6-6-6 beast evolves to, with countermeasures and coaching etc...

 

[Chris_6678]

We must rate the use of wingman with these new rules hence why we drafted Josh Smith as a backup wingman who has attributes similar to Masten.

It will be interesting to see how we go trying to fit Gaff in if we are full strength come round 3. A good situation to be in!

 

[ioppolo]

Even after a premiership, the Masten debates continue.

 

[Astro7]

Even after a premiership, the Masten debates continue.

But in a more positive caring way...?
I guess it'll all be sorted in due time and he will be the Masten of his own destiny?