Review Winners and losers 2022 draft

[XhazzafootyX]

WC on paper looks very good.

Not sure if he was trying to be funny or not but he just came across as a dick.

they were good questions aswell ffs. I’ve seen journos ask way worse.

 

[citizen-erased]

Dont really rate setterfield at all. If dons get D'Aloia or Syzbkowski then I believe they've addressed it.

I still have a soft spot for setterfield from his draft year. We should have been on him when he left gws. He's limited but he does what we need quite well.

Tomorrow will be interesting. We arent exactly known for drafting the classic big body pure mid.

 

[Rod Stroker]

The biggest downside for North has to be not getting another tall forward. Obviously not the draft for it but I reckon Gruzewski would've made a lovely 3rd tall next to Larkey and Comben/CCJ. Or down back to take over from Corr alongside the McKay/Logue pairing that will be very solid for a long time.

That's true but we didn't have the chance to draft him. Giants took him before we could.

 

[HeHateMe]

Not comparing to other teams but I'm really happy with how we ended up. You can really see the direction we are going in the midfield.... And it's up

 

[master bate]

I still have a soft spot for setterfield from his draft year. We should have been on him when he left gws. He's limited but he does what we need quite well.

Tomorrow will be interesting. We arent exactly known for drafting the classic big body pure mid.

Played well when finally used on ball by Carlton late in the year. He can contribute. More as a defensive big body. Still think Essendon need an attacking big body, unless it’s Stringer contract year again.

Tsatas is talented and players who find the ball can find the physicality as they grow to become men themselves. Bont and Macrae are 2 I’d class like that. Pendles too. Came in outsiders who found the ball and with the right coaching quickly learned how to do it through contact.

That said, I’d have taken Humphrey, Phillipou or McKenzie and not had to worry about projecting it.

 

[master bate]

Not comparing to other teams but I'm really happy with how we ended up. You can really see the direction we are going in the midfield.... And it's up

It’s interesting. If you’re going to play corridor and attacking you’ll need as much skill and run as any team has ever had before. But you’ll also need guys who can mark or halve contests when the kicks are a little bit off, and big mids do that a lot around the ground.

It also seems like you haven’t got the gun midfielder you might’ve liked by now so maybe you’re taking flyers on 190cm+ mids and hoping a couple of them really pop? Worst case scenario you’ll have some flanker flexibility and big body taggers that are always useful.

 

[theGav56]

Winners:
Carlton:
Hollands is quality and fills a need, Cowan too, Binns - I love the double up of attacking a need aggressively, and Lemmey is a great value pick. If he fails, fine, if he succeeds everyone will look silly for dropping him down so far.

North:
I don't really love the first 2 but they're very good, George a great value buy, and Cooper Harvey IMO can play.

West Coast:
Brand new midfield in one draft that should all play fairly quickly, plus a nice value small forward

St Kilda:
Phillipou an absolute steal, then took some high upside talls and got a nice slider in Hotton

Losers:

Not sure there's too many.

Maybe Freo - just not sure they maximised that hand of picks in the 30's and 40's. But they have a fairly stacked list so I get it.

GWS - Cadman's fantastic of course. Just a question of whether they maximised the other 4 picks. I think they've done ok, but it will be interesting to see if Jones does become a quality small forward if he's used in that role. Konstantly and Clarke being right there and not getting either of them is interesting. Rowston looks a good player but they just didn't get maximum value. Be interesting to see where Gruzewski fits. I like the McMullin pick.

A lot of teams, including my own, only have the 1-2 picks. I know they can grab more in the rookie and SSP but I think these kids can play and it was a deeper draft than first reported.

Fair enough comment re Freo. A bland draft, unless you look at the context, including the addition of Jackson, O'Meara and Corbett in the trade period. The lads we drafted in are definitely needs based and mostly ready to go.

The club has positioned itself we'll for sustained finals I reckon.

 

[BigVic]

Winners - North, Carlton, St Kilda, West Coast
Losers - Freo, Port, Richmond, Sydney

West Coast are rebuilding and looking to the draft to draft young talent. Got two local products in the first Round and their Nic Nat replacement

 

[Freomaniac]

Had he not done his knee (twice) he might have gone top 10. Worth a couple of picks in the 40’s I reckon.

you happy with what the saints picked up?

You know I love Rossy Lyon. So I want this myth thrown out the window Ross Lyon dont play youf. lol

 

[master bate]

Fair enough comment re Freo. A bland draft, unless you look at the context, including the addition of Jackson, O'Meara and Corbett in the trade period. The lads we drafted in are definitely needs based and mostly ready to go.

The club has positioned itself we'll for sustained finals I reckon.

Wagner and the sanfl bloke are needs based. I actually am starting to like the sanfl guy because his stats are so ordinary he must be good! He’s one of the bigger smokies we’ve seen in years and Freo have been excellent at state league recruiting.

A young ruck and young key defender are surely about your least possible needs. And I wonder if you could’ve traded those picks together and got in to the George, Vickery, Ryan, Burgiel range of the draft for 1 pick, then taken a rookie tall.

Wing, back flank or high half forward could be handy. And George as an inside 50 threat would’ve been worth the wait for him to get healthy. But I doubt teams wanted to trade down.

 

[bungalow_bill]

No one gonna mention brisbane?

Lions the clear winners of the combined trade/draft period. Draft alone we did okay getting the best kid in the land plus a top 12 talent

 

[Freomaniac]

Fair enough comment re Freo. A bland draft, unless you look at the context, including the addition of Jackson, O'Meara and Corbett in the trade period. The lads we drafted in are definitely needs based and mostly ready to go.

The club has positioned itself we'll for sustained finals I reckon.

I so Bloody hope so.

Hoping we get a 2-3 year run of finals in the short term. Long term possibly emulate our 2012-15 finals run. Not that I have high expectations at freo.

From 1995-2022, Dockers only made finals 8 years out of 28. Those years are 2003, 2006, 2010, that 4 year run of 2012-15 and 2022.

Only minor thing I would say. I would trade freos round 23, 2014 win vs port in Perth and finish 5th in 2014 in return for winning in round 22, 2005 vs Port.

That meant in 2005 freo made finals and made back to back finals in 2005-6. that also means possibly an elim finals exit in 2014 vs richmond in WA.


Freos rebuild from 2016-21 was flawed and far from perfect. But laws of averages say, you spend 4-6 years outside the top 8, your likely to draft a lot of kids.

 

[robbo1981]

Port height.

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Was very happy with what we got considering our draft hand

 

[aussierulesrules]

you happy with what the saints picked up?

Yeah considering the picks we had I think we got exceptional value, and in the process we also managed to address key needs with all 4 picks. Which is about the best you hope for.

You know I love Rossy Lyon. So I want this myth thrown out the window Ross Lyon dont play youf. lol

It will be really interesting to see which way he goes.

I did a best 22 last night and wasn’t necessarily able to fit in any of Wanganeen-Milera, Windhager, Phillipou, Owens, Sharman, or Bytel, so Ross could easily just pick a team to win, and we could feasibly play finals, or he could leave a few out who would be stiff, and pick a team with half an eye for the future and see how that goes.

Collingwood actually went the latter path in 2010 and it turned out quite well for them.

 

[Malifice]

Sydney doesn't feel like a winning draft as we didn't address a single need.

All Carlton did was address needs (wingers, flankers outside mids) before we mysteriously took a KPF.

 

[bzparkes]

Freo's was a bit odd. Not saying they're losers by any means but I'm not really understanding why they didn't take a punt on Scully/Lemmey/Keeler instead of Emmett (who I know absolutely nothing about). It's as if they have an aversion to tall forwards. Yes I know they took Amiss last year but I figure either of the 2 would be worth the punt, considering they addressed needs with their first pick by picking a tall back and then went on to pick Knobel for the ruck backup they needed.

Backing in Treacy maybe?

 

[bzparkes]

All Carlton did was address needs (wingers, flankers outside mids) before we mysteriously took a KPF.

Lemmey apparently played down back to finish off the season and performed well. Twomey's of the belief they picked him to play back.

 

[master bate]

The three greatest needs for the Swans agreed by majority of fans would be

Big bodied/tall inside mid.
Tall KPD capable of taking on the 200cm forwards
Ruck

Ruck: I think dum dum Ladhams gets his head in to gear and the ruck/forwards are ok. Barnett would've been nice but it's a luxury that you can fix with more rookie fliers or trades.
Tall KPD: would be nice, but I think it's a little overrated. Tom McCartin isn't fully physically mature yet, he'll have more power to shift bodies and it will be interesting to see if Francis can be fixed up and how that works with Paddy
Tall mid - yeah, would be nice, but Mills hasn't been a full time mid forever, Heeney hasn't be healthy enough to play mid, Rowbottom still has plenty left, Sheldrick should get more games, Warner should play more mid. There's a lot left to play out there.

I do wonder if Sydney are more in talent accumulation mode rather than drafting for needs. You might still be looking at your window being in 2-3 years time and this years success coming well ahead of schedule. Trading for needs and some specific drafting might come from next year on once your young mids have had time to really establish themselves. And if Logan can work towards the number 1 key forward role.

 

[Lia]

I'm very happy with our draft and I think that St Kilda did very well with what they had. Everyone will be watching Phillipou with interest in coming years.

 

[dexter_]

Freo's was a bit odd. Not saying they're losers by any means but I'm not really understanding why they didn't take a punt on Scully/Lemmey/Keeler instead of Emmett (who I know absolutely nothing about). It's as if they have an aversion to tall forwards. Yes I know they took Amiss last year but I figure either of the 2 would be worth the punt, considering they addressed needs with their first pick by picking a tall back and then went on to pick Knobel for the ruck backup they needed.

Backing in Treacy maybe?

We've got Jasper Scaife coming in as a Cat B rookie who's probably not far off Sculley in terms of ranking.

 

[Seb78]

Losers based on list needs: Dons? still no big bodied mid

I have a feeling Scott will push Perkins into the midfield next year, he will be that bigger body imo.

Archie Perkins - 188cm
Will Setterfield - 192cm
Nick Martin - 192cm (Once he builds his body up a bit, I can see him transitioning into the inside.)
Tsatas - 187cm (See Martin)

Stringer and Langford can go in their as well and pinch hit.

Phillipou would've been awesome, but Tsatas has clearly been the better player so far.

I don't think we did too bad.

 

[bzparkes]

We've got Jasper Scaife coming in as a Cat B rookie who's probably not far off Sculley in terms of ranking.

Ah ok, that makes sense. Might as well take the freebie if the club rates them pretty much the same.

I guess there's Kuek as well. Completely forgot about him

Looks like the club forgot about him also, no photo on the website lol.

 

[Altum Volantes]

The three greatest needs for the Swans agreed by majority of fans would be

Big bodied/tall inside mid.
Tall KPD capable of taking on the 200cm forwards
Ruck

WC drafted a ruck, you can trade for him in 5-10 years like usual?

 

[Ysaye]

Freo's was a bit odd. Not saying they're losers by any means but I'm not really understanding why they didn't take a punt on Scully/Lemmey/Keeler instead of Emmett (who I know absolutely nothing about). It's as if they have an aversion to tall forwards. Yes I know they took Amiss last year but I figure either of the 2 would be worth the punt, considering they addressed needs with their first pick by picking a tall back and then went on to pick Knobel for the ruck backup they needed.

Backing in Treacy maybe?

Listwise we are already have a number of low end tall forwards with rucking capability in Treacy (195cm), Kuek (200cm), Benning (197cm), with the first 22 tall forward options being Taberner, Amiss and Jackson. We will probably also take Draper who is an athletic (but was injured much of the season) 197cm forward/utility as a Cat B Rookie tomorrow, so they probably figure they have enough tall development to boot already, without adding Lemmey or Keeler who obviously have their own issues to fall so far in the draft. The other part is that we probably took a true 207cm ruckman in Knobel to replace the loss of our previous two tallest players in Meek (203cm) and Lobb (207cm), rather than another smaller hybrid.

Emmett is a medium forward with a penchant for pressure and tackling; we kind of only have Sturt, Banfield and Corbett in that space and all of them are probably light on the pressure forward nature.

 

[eth-dog]

Freo's was a bit odd. Not saying they're losers by any means but I'm not really understanding why they didn't take a punt on Scully/Lemmey/Keeler instead of Emmett (who I know absolutely nothing about). It's as if they have an aversion to tall forwards. Yes I know they took Amiss last year but I figure either of the 2 would be worth the punt, considering they addressed needs with their first pick by picking a tall back and then went on to pick Knobel for the ruck backup they needed.

Backing in Treacy maybe?

They have Treacy, Amiss, Kuek and Benning as key forwards all 22 or under. Plus a Cat B rookie spot open I think?