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Once he retires we should push for a statue of Woosha, Malthouse and Judd at the new stadium. Statues of all WA based premiership Captains and Coaches should be erected at the new stadium.
Malthouse n judd are bit different to woosha. I like the statue of woosha, but judd left and captained another club.
 

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WEST COAST coach John Worsfold has given the biggest hint yet that he wants to coach on next season, revealing he will make a presentation to the club's board in the coming weeks.

Just last month, speculation was rife Worsfold would walk away at season's end after 13 years at the helm.

But Worsfold certainly spoke like a man who wants to coach on when he addressed the media on Wednesday.

"I'm putting a plan in action to present to the footy club," a relaxed and somewhat jovial Worsfold said.

"So in a nutshell, I will be very clear on where it's all at inside a month, and we'll go from there."

Although West Coast are almost certain to miss the finals this year, chairman Alan Cransberg has previously stated that Worsfold would remain a wanted man irrespective of whether the club featured in September.

Worsfold said even if he does decide to coach on, he doesn't expect the club to sign off on the deal straight away.

"I don't think I'm just going to walk in and sign a contract," the 2006 premiership coach said.

"I think I'm going to walk in and show them what my thoughts are about my direction I think the coaching group can head in.

"And I would assume that it won't be just rubber stamped. The board would have to consider that."

Mmmmm that definitely sounds like he want's to coach so it would be very interesting to know what the plan is. Maybe an actual Plan B ????
 
Malthouse n judd are bit different to woosha. I like the statue of woosha, but judd left and captained another club.

Nah. The WAFC should make a tradition that if you captain or coach the eagles or dockers to a premiership or win a brownlow at either club you get a statue out the front of the new stadium. It would really give it a nice touch.
 
Does anyone else think that he/the club may be looking at a succession plan (ala Sydney)? With Burns or Teague to take over in a year or two?

Geez i hope not. Teague maybe yes, but not Boourns..
We need someone who has more than one plan and can think creatively during a match to get the best out of our list. I'm not sure Woosha or Burns are the guys for us anymore.
 
WEST COAST coach John Worsfold has given the biggest hint yet that he wants to coach on next season, revealing he will make a presentation to the club's board in the coming weeks.

Just last month, speculation was rife Worsfold would walk away at season's end after 13 years at the helm.

But Worsfold certainly spoke like a man who wants to coach on when he addressed the media on Wednesday.

"I'm putting a plan in action to present to the footy club," a relaxed and somewhat jovial Worsfold said.

"So in a nutshell, I will be very clear on where it's all at inside a month, and we'll go from there."

Although West Coast are almost certain to miss the finals this year, chairman Alan Cransberg has previously stated that Worsfold would remain a wanted man irrespective of whether the club featured in September.

Worsfold said even if he does decide to coach on, he doesn't expect the club to sign off on the deal straight away.

"I don't think I'm just going to walk in and sign a contract," the 2006 premiership coach said.

"I think I'm going to walk in and show them what my thoughts are about my direction I think the coaching group can head in.

"And I would assume that it won't be just rubber stamped. The board would have to consider that."

Mmmmm that definitely sounds like he want's to coach so it would be very interesting to know what the plan is. Maybe an actual Plan B ????

Depressing stuff but follows on from the noises lately suggesting he's hanging around ...

He needs to leave. I'm not sure Nisbett or the Board have the distance or the balls to make that happen.

More of the same for next couple of years ...
 

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It probably shouldn't come as any surprise, we are probably the most conservative club in the competition. Maybe they really do listen to the majority of their members...
 
I'm a little sick of hearing some of the same things repeated ad nauseam.

We might be a conservative club, but we're also a effing good club. Look through the list. Adelaide - in a similar vein but we're pretty much always one step ahead. Brisbane - absolutely diabolical list management after their flags. Carlton - tanking, anchored to the bottom for half a decade. Still in no man's land. I could go on, but what's clear is we're comfortably in the top third or quarter of clubs when taking everything into account.

Worsfold has rebuilt the club twice in his tenure. Richmond, Melbourne, Fremantle have had more rebuilds than I can count. From the first two clubs, their promising youngsters are now on the verge of retirement without getting anywhere near success. We've only had two horrific seasons under Woosha.

Apparently he's conservative with his coaching personnel. And yet it wasn't that many years ago we sought out Walsh, Daniher, Teague, and Voss (Burns). This change bore fruitful results - albeit not the ultimate. Suddenly we have a disappointing year and the consensus is we don't change things up enough and are too conservative? So if at the end of last season we'd put a broom through the coaching personnel, you all would've been fine with that?

This year has been disappointing, definitely, but there's so much crap being slung around. I've consistently read that we're favouring older players and not promoting the kids. And yet Will Schofield found himself on the outer pretty early on, Adam Selwood has only played 8 games, and last week Daniel Kerr played for East Fremantle. Play the kids, they said? What kids? We're playing Carter, but if you look through the WAFL reserves thread you'll pretty much find constant negativity about him prior to his call-up for WC.

I'm tired of seeing the same old arguments, regardless of whether they're actually relevant to the current situation.
 
I'm a little sick of hearing some of the same things repeated ad nauseam.

We might be a conservative club, but we're also a effing good club. Look through the list. Adelaide - in a similar vein but we're pretty much always one step ahead. Brisbane - absolutely diabolical list management after their flags. Carlton - tanking, anchored to the bottom for half a decade. Still in no man's land. I could go on, but what's clear is we're comfortably in the top third or quarter of clubs when taking everything into account.

Worsfold has rebuilt the club twice in his tenure. Richmond, Melbourne, Fremantle have had more rebuilds than I can count. From the first two clubs, their promising youngsters are now on the verge of retirement without getting anywhere near success. We've only had two horrific seasons under Woosha.

Apparently he's conservative with his coaching personnel. And yet it wasn't that many years ago we sought out Walsh, Daniher, Teague, and Voss (Burns). This change bore fruitful results - albeit not the ultimate. Suddenly we have a disappointing year and the consensus is we don't change things up enough and are too conservative? So if at the end of last season we'd put a broom through the coaching personnel, you all would've been fine with that?

This year has been disappointing, definitely, but there's so much crap being slung around. I've consistently read that we're favouring older players and not promoting the kids. And yet Will Schofield found himself on the outer pretty early on, Adam Selwood has only played 8 games, and last week Daniel Kerr played for East Fremantle. Play the kids, they said? What kids? We're playing Carter, but if you look through the WAFL reserves thread you'll pretty much find constant negativity about him prior to his call-up for WC.



I'm tired of seeing the same old arguments, regardless of whether they're actually relevant to the current situation.

There are no kids because of shit list management.

We haven't had a decent small defender since Wirra left, a decent crumbing forward since Sampi/Matera. The rebuild of the midfield has left us with a mid table midfield. Three of the players drafted to build that either requested to leave OR retired before they turned 23.

The game plan is antiquated. Everything we do offensively looks hard work and other teams score lots of soft goals against us. We haven't been a genuine threat in a big game against a good club since 2007. Not when it matters.

We dominate hit outs and get minimal meaningful clearances.

Schofield has been on the list 7 seasons - he's not a kid that we dropped and apart from very early season his selection has not been firm based its been "we must play Mitch Brown no matter what" based. More nonsense.

We have been a good club but currently we are solid financially and bog ordinary onfield. That has been the case for 4 of the last 6 seasons.

The other two we had a stellar year with a collision of our emerging kids and great years from our veterans married with an innovative Walsh inspired forward press. That got figured out and from mid last year we have been modest. This year worse than modest. We've one 1 flag in 19 seasons (including the current one). We were very slow to end the early 90's era, we drafted for perceived need instead of based on quality and we ended up perennial finalists who were no threat to win anything, then the old guys got older and Judge was brought in to finish a number of them off and play kids. He handed Woosh a list that contained Cousins, Kerr, Cox, Glass, Hunter, Braun, (and more) even the Judd pick was locked in ....

We gave up our first pick and our first & second in 2003 & 2004 to get 3 to 4 seasons out of Stinger & Chick. When we did draft highish (top 30) picks in that period we took Mitch Brown, Matt Rosa & Shannon Hurn. The high picks we've nailed post Judd & Cousins were a ruckman & a forward. In the Judd trade we nailed a forward.

There has been systematic inability to build a midfield by Woosh that wasn't given to him. There has been systematic inability to properly assess or develop mids and a game plan that works to deliver wins against the best sides when it matters. This is our 6th season since we were a threat. That's a career for many coaches.

If you're happy to keep with same old same old that's fine but don't try and make us all believe Woosh has been in charge of some sort of golden era ... That was more than half a decade ago ... And it was 2.5 great years - then Judd broke down and it all went to shit. The Matt Priddis era kicked in and like the player himself some are ok with that and some want our club to wake up and try for elite again
 
What I just can't fathom... that Worsfold is presenting a plan for the future, in the off-season.

Change things now, NOW, NOW!!!!

The midfield list is shit today. It was shit last year, it was shit 5 years ago when Priddis was thrust into the starring midfield role.

But Worsfold doesn't surprise me. Eagles Management have worked hard to get Worsfold to think more instinctively and make gut calls, rather than taking a loooonnngggg time to make a decision. I see the same rubbish pondering over "making things right" in the off-season.

It's today, Woosha, TODAY!
 
What I just can't fathom... that Worsfold is presenting a plan for the future, in the off-season.

Change things now, NOW, NOW!!!!

The midfield list is shit today. It was shit last year, it was shit 5 years ago when Priddis was thrust into the starring midfield role.

But Worsfold doesn't surprise me. Eagles Management have worked hard to get Worsfold to think more instinctively and make gut calls, rather than taking a loooonnngggg time to make a decision. I see the same rubbish pondering over "making things right" in the off-season.

It's today, Woosha, TODAY!


Last year we brought in Wellingham and Cripps. Unless we have a spare 700-800k to lure someone out of contract, I'm not sure what you expect?
 
A post season that I thought could be filled with optimism and enthusiasm will just be another post season with us hearing about how well our players are doing in their time trials and building houses in Cambodia.

Mark McClure had some interesting things to say on AFL 360 tonight. Right on the money.
 

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Last year we brought in Wellingham and Cripps. Unless we have a spare 700-800k to lure someone out of contract, I'm not sure what you expect?


both good starts... well mainly wellingham, but not enough to solve our midfield woes.

retiring aselwood, butler and emberly should free up some dollars. trading brown and/or lycett or sinclair (depending on how long cox is expected to continue) should give us a better draft position.

astute drafting is required, and/or taking a risk with someone like dayle garlett
 
Last year we brought in Wellingham and Cripps. Unless we have a spare 700-800k to lure someone out of contract, I'm not sure what you expect?

A couple of band aids on the gaping wounds created by drafting/development/coaching - you know the things that will be broadly staying the same under Woosh...
 
What's interesting here, and I admit to somewhat stoking the fire, is that a lot of these concerns aren't really Worsfold related.

List management hasn't been great, but I also think other than the Gaff, Darling, Lycett draft, we've been horrendously unlucky. Losing Ebert after putting 80 odd games into him was a double blow. He's a handy player, but also those 80 games could've allowed the likes of Swift or Stevens to have had greater opportunity (which in turn may have kept them on our list). It looked like we were building a really good unit there. It also meant the following years we didn't go after pure mids and looked at guys that could spend time at HB (Shep) or HF (Newman), and we don't need to go into their stories any further in this thread.
 
A post season that I thought could be filled with optimism and enthusiasm will just be another post season with us hearing about how well our players are doing in their time trials and building houses in Cambodia.

Mark McClure had some interesting things to say on AFL 360 tonight. Right on the money.
yeah he was pretty right in his doubts with woosh.

I love woosh but is too obvious the club and the players need something new.
 

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