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GO 161 said:
materamagic said:I remember both of these songs very clearly, from being a preschooler in 1971, when they were both big in the charts ( funny how 1971 seems to be a year that turned out so much musical garbage!! I could think of numerous other tunes from that year that shat me to tears ).
To dissect your comments, I dislike My Sweet Lord for the simple fact a / I dislike Harrison immensely and b / I find it pretty gross that a drugged out hippie jumped on the religion bandwagon to make a commercial buck out of it ( Religion was a huge musical theme in teh early 70s, with such stuff as Jesus Christ Superstar and many songs in that area having a religious flavour )
Imagine? Well. That song just makes me want to vomit. Enduring and relevant message? Bah. Utopian ideologist crud. Relevant to who? Certainly not those of us who live in the real world! Maybe to those who spend their days in a haze of drug induced euphoria. Peace Man !![]()
Cat Stevens is a bore. I can think of only one decent song he has written - Matthew & Son. As for the rest - a few have been made into excellent cover versions. Wild World, by Maxi Priest, is one such example. But my liking of this version has nothing to do with the song itself really, it's more a case of it being around in an era of happy memories for me, so it provides a link to happier times.
I don't think it's poor at all really. I find a lot of similarities with what you make comment on about the above songs having a relevant message - but in work by different artists. It's all a matter of what you relate to I guess.
In the early 70s one such artist was Gilbert O' Sullivan. His work was predominantly for the ' bubblegum ' era, especially his later work, but he had a few lyrics with very strong messages. Although it's fair to say that one of them, Clair, would be immediately banned these days, as modern day sensitivities would ensure its' lyric would be taken out of context. His 1972 song ' Alone Again, Naturally ' IMO sends a much more powerful and relevant message than Imagine does.
Todd Rundgren was another who wrote some powerful stuff before becoming more mainstream in the late 70s when he unleashed that God awful ' Can We Still Be Friends " on the world
Then there's Floyd, Richard Clapton ( Deep Water is a sensational track ) and Paddy McAloon from Prefab Sprout. There's some pretty powerful, poignant stuff in that lot.
Yep. You can name zillions of others in that same bracket. Sadly, it's crap like this that sells records.
Mate, I just can't understand what the big deal about the Beatles was.
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materamagic said:Fair comment. As I said, for me the song had no meaning. World peace is probably right down the bottom of my list of priorities, so I guess the song's message was lost on me.I see where you are coming from, I think Lennons death and continuing tragic events in the world keep a song such as imagine alive. It was actually mostly concieved by Yoko and the nutopian idea, that is true and yes it is overplayed but it will never change, that is what the masses will remember John for, I rather his Plastic Ono Band album.
I'm much more attuned to lyrics that deal with personal things, or the individual psyche, as in the example I mentioned ( Alone Again, Naturally, by Gilbert O' Sulllivan ).I would be more likely to remember Lennon for his last two singles from Double Fantasy - Starting Over and Woman - which, ironically, IMO were his only two decent songs ever.
Yes, but what's got me tossed is that several other artists from the same era also recorded religious material and were very open about their beliefs, yet this drew absolute panning and ridicile from both the critics and the music buying public.As for George yes he may have forayed into drugs during the 60's and 70's but by no means an addict. it is a little unfair to say he jumped on the religious bandwagon, i think you dont know his history of his ideals which date back to 65/66, he had planted subtle religious and philosophical messages in his music from the mid 60's and stayed religious until death, Ravi Shankar was his friend and mentor and actually, if you think about it singing about religious stuff, preaching whatever gave critics plenty of ammo to pan him and by the album Living In The Material World he was disinterested in fame and rather sing about what he feels and believes, so he did noy use religion as a gimmick, he was simply writing what he felt which is applauded and rare these days.
Not everyone will dig George Harrison but he did have a great long career, its just not many people are familiar because he was not the most commercial artist.
Most notable of these artists were arguably the biggest two male artists of all time, Elvis Presley and Cliff Richard. Both these artists had some excellent religious material that remains unknown and both have been slagged for going into gospel music.
Yet Harrison receives accolades. Go figure.
GO 161 said:
materamagic said:I remember both of these songs very clearly, from being a preschooler in 1971, when they were both big in the charts ( funny how 1971 seems to be a year that turned out so much musical garbage!! I could think of numerous other tunes from that year that shat me to tears ).
To dissect your comments, I dislike My Sweet Lord for the simple fact a / I dislike Harrison immensely and b / I find it pretty gross that a drugged out hippie jumped on the religion bandwagon to make a commercial buck out of it ( Religion was a huge musical theme in teh early 70s, with such stuff as Jesus Christ Superstar and many songs in that area having a religious flavour )
Imagine? Well. That song just makes me want to vomit. Enduring and relevant message? Bah. Utopian ideologist crud. Relevant to who? Certainly not those of us who live in the real world! Maybe to those who spend their days in a haze of drug induced euphoria. Peace Man !![]()
Cat Stevens is a bore. I can think of only one decent song he has written - Matthew & Son. As for the rest - a few have been made into excellent cover versions. Wild World, by Maxi Priest, is one such example. But my liking of this version has nothing to do with the song itself really, it's more a case of it being around in an era of happy memories for me, so it provides a link to happier times.
I don't think it's poor at all really. I find a lot of similarities with what you make comment on about the above songs having a relevant message - but in work by different artists. It's all a matter of what you relate to I guess.
In the early 70s one such artist was Gilbert O' Sullivan. His work was predominantly for the ' bubblegum ' era, especially his later work, but he had a few lyrics with very strong messages. Although it's fair to say that one of them, Clair, would be immediately banned these days, as modern day sensitivities would ensure its' lyric would be taken out of context. His 1972 song ' Alone Again, Naturally ' IMO sends a much more powerful and relevant message than Imagine does.
Todd Rundgren was another who wrote some powerful stuff before becoming more mainstream in the late 70s when he unleashed that God awful ' Can We Still Be Friends " on the world
Then there's Floyd, Richard Clapton ( Deep Water is a sensational track ) and Paddy McAloon from Prefab Sprout. There's some pretty powerful, poignant stuff in that lot.
Yep. You can name zillions of others in that same bracket. Sadly, it's crap like this that sells records.
Mate, I just can't understand what the big deal about the Beatles was.
good call on gilbert o'sullivan. his 'back to front' album is a hidden gem and one of my all time favs.
diablo14 said:Can't recall which LP that was.....care to refresh me? I remember the name but not what was on it.GO 161 said:![]()
good call on gilbert o'sullivan. his 'back to front' album is a hidden gem and one of my all time favs.
Go'S was a very, very underrated artist, very similar to Todd Rundgren, in that his work didn't receive the accolades it deserved. It's a pity really his only really prominent hits were ' Get Down ' & ' Ooh Baby ' , right in the middle of the bubblegum era around 1973 with Sweet, Mud, Wizzard etc, and made specifically for that market.
His earlier, soulful, ' introspective ' stuff - ' Nothing Rhymed ' , ' We Will ', ' Alone Again, Naturally ' ' Clair ' etc, sadly is largely unknown, at least here. Different in the UK I think.
GO 161 said:diablo14 said:Can't recall which LP that was.....care to refresh me? I remember the name but not what was on it.
Go'S was a very, very underrated artist, very similar to Todd Rundgren, in that his work didn't receive the accolades it deserved. It's a pity really his only really prominent hits were ' Get Down ' & ' Ooh Baby ' , right in the middle of the bubblegum era around 1973 with Sweet, Mud, Wizzard etc, and made specifically for that market.
His earlier, soulful, ' introspective ' stuff - ' Nothing Rhymed ' , ' We Will ', ' Alone Again, Naturally ' ' Clair ' etc, sadly is largely unknown, at least here. Different in the UK I think.
that was the album that had 'clair' and 'out of the question' on it, along with one that always makes me smile 'i hope you will stay'
materamagic said:I see where you are coming from, I think Lennons death and continuing tragic events in the world keep a song such as imagine alive. It was actually mostly concieved by Yoko and the nutopian idea, that is true and yes it is overplayed but it will never change, that is what the masses will remember John for, I rather his Plastic Ono Band album.
As for George yes he may have forayed into drugs during the 60's and 70's but by no means an addict. it is a little unfair to say he jumped on the religious bandwagon, i think you dont know his history of his ideals which date back to 65/66, he had planted subtle religious and philosophical messages in his music from the mid 60's and stayed religious until death, Ravi Shankar was his friend and mentor and actually, if you think about it singing about religious stuff, preaching whatever gave critics plenty of ammo to pan him and by the album Living In The Material World he was disinterested in fame and rather sing about what he feels and believes, so he did noy use religion as a gimmick, he was simply writing what he felt which is applauded and rare these days.
Not everyone will dig George Harrison but he did have a great long career, its just not many people are familiar because he was not the most commercial artist.
dids4 said:that one by lee harding.
im very glad i dont know it by title.
i hope he contracts a really bad disease.

Rule said:any suggestions?
GO 161 said:Not bad, but not quite in the league of these examples of aural torture
Anything by the Beatles