Current Wyndham Vale lake tragedy

[JUBJUB]

I hope this isn't another Robert Farquharson type incident and this is just some tragic accident

"Hundreds gathered to farewell twins Madit and Hanger, four, and their infant brother, Bol, in Werribee."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vi...-at-wyndham-vale/story-fni0fit3-1227295916104

Third child now dead
Very odd as the lake is a decent distance from the road and the car has gone in about 30 metres.

 

[Paul Kersey]

Terrible state of affairs.

 

[grouse mate]

Was my first thought as well seeing the news ads flash up, then they showed the car in the middle of the lake inside a housing estate where the speed limit must be 50. Now read a news article that says the edge of the lake is 10 metres from the road. Little doubt now that it was deliberate.

 

[Southern Urchins]

Was my first thought as well seeing the news ads flash up, then they showed the car in the middle of the lake inside a housing estate where the speed limit must be 50. Now read a news article that says the edge of the lake is 10 metres from the road. Little doubt now that it was deliberate.

It's 1km from us, there's no way it's an accident!

 

[Sterge]

Whole thing is ****ed especially if some of the kids aren't hers

 

[campbell]

Sad sad for all involved. I hope their is no mental health or docs screw up here .

Rip little ones.

 

[craffles]

Messed up. Hoping there is an explanation that doesn't implicate the mother but it seems unlikely

 

[checkraiseulite]

If this does turn out to be a similar incident to that at winchelsea, it's going to be very interesting to see how this is covered in the media.

 

[FRUMPY]

If this does turn out to be a similar incident to that at winchelsea, it's going to be very interesting to see how this is covered in the media.

will be very interesting indeed, i have a feeling it will be very different

 

[cats2rise]

A fellow bigfooty poster is a family member of Robert Farquharson, an is certain he did not do it deliberately. I remember at the time there was a lot of conflicting evidence from police reports (they pretty much bungled it up) and from the witness/first on the scene who changed details of what happened when he arrived. The witness who said Robert had mentioned about "taking things from his wife" was also dismissed as a poor witness from memory.

Not saying the guy is innocent, but remember at the time there was issues with bungled reports etc and there were a fair few who sided with him - not out of loyalty, but that there were issues with the case.

I also thought of this as soon as I heard the news report yesterday.

 

[BORK]

If this does turn out to be a similar incident to that at winchelsea, it's going to be very interesting to see how this is covered in the media.

Doesn't look like it was a middle class Caucasian woman so the media treatment may be harder to predict.

 

[Southern Urchins]

The media makes me want to vomit.
As soon as a minority group is involved, we report things a different way.
If only the showed "the respect for the families" when these situations involve an anglo australian male!
There, I said it!

 

[Sterge]

The media makes me want to vomit.
As soon as a minority group is involved, we report things a different way.
If only the showed "the respect for the families" when these situations involve an anglo australian male!
There, I said it!

this seems pretty in depth?

http://www.news.com.au/national/chi...-at-wyndham-vale/story-fncynjr2-1227296056886

 

[floodbuster]

The only other time this had happened (that I can remember) was over in America a few years ago when an expensive sports car went out of control into a lake and that was found to be an insurance scam.

 

[MisterMarcus]

I believe that he did it but just can't imagine the thought process. He killed his own 3 kids to get back at his ex. Did he have no feeling for them at all?? I suppose I can't understand the thoughts of most criminals discussed on this board.

This.

I mean, I get the thought process of killing your ex out of anger and spite. And I get the thought process of killing yourself as "payback" to have the ex wracked with guilt for the rest of their lives.

But to kill your own kids....you're just hurting yourself as much as the other person. They're your kids too, so you've lost out just as much as the person you're trying to punish.

 

[checkraiseulite]

As cold as it sounds, for people in his mindset, that's the cost of doing business.

 

[X_box_X]

This.

I mean, I get the thought process of killing your ex out of anger and spite. And I get the thought process of killing yourself as "payback" to have the ex wracked with guilt for the rest of their lives.

But to kill your own kids....you're just hurting yourself as much as the other person. They're your kids too, so you've lost out just as much as the person you're trying to punish.

Unless you have been diagnosed with a mental health condition, it's probably difficult to comprehend the thought process.

 

[NSWCROW]

Yeah i'll take the bullet.


The lack of outrage isn't because she's in a " minority "
It's because she's a woman.

 

[TheWoodenSlug]

Yeah i'll take the bullet.


The lack of outrage isn't because she's in a " minority "
It's because she's a woman.

My understanding, from the (very) limited amount that I have read about this story, is that it is presumed to have been accidental - is that not the case?

 

[NSWCROW]

My understanding, from the (very) limited amount that I have read about this story, is that it is presumed to have been accidental - is that not the case?

Nowhere even NEAR " accidental "

 

[TheWoodenSlug]

Nowhere even NEAR " accidental "

Well if that is the case, then I agree that the reporting (again, from the little that I have read/seen) has been extremely hypocritical. Not exactly surprising, though - just look at the way the murder of 8 kids in Cairns late last year was reported (and then quickly forgotten about), compared to the Farquharson, Freeman etc cases.

It seems that if a man snaps, he is (rightly) denounced as 'evil' or 'a monster'; whereas if it is a woman, the media tends to focus on the tragedy itself, as well as the issues/events that led them to take the actions that they did. It's a strange double standard.

 

[Pie in the Sky]

We don't really know if what accidental or not though do we? She hasn't been charged, yet anyway.

 

[checkraiseulite]

Applying the farquharson standard:

She didn't die trying to save them like any loving mother would/should have.

Therefore guilty.

 

[Rustin Cohle]

Yeah i'll take the bullet.


The lack of outrage isn't because she's in a " minority "
It's because she's a woman.

Women are a minority.

 

[BORK]

Well if that is the case, then I agree that the reporting (again, from the little that I have read/seen) has been extremely hypocritical. Not exactly surprising, though - just look at the way the murder of 8 kids in Cairns late last year was reported (and then quickly forgotten about), compared to the Farquharson, Freeman etc cases.

It seems that if a man snaps, he is (rightly) denounced as 'evil' or 'a monster'; whereas if it is a woman, the media tends to focus on the tragedy itself, as well as the issues/events that led them to take the actions that they did. It's a strange double standard.

Can you imagine how much bigger the story would have been and how much more it would have been mentioned in the last few months if a man butchered seven of his own kids plus another persons child?

An attractive middle class white woman was confirmed as murdered in tragic circumstances soon after so naturally this story will be temporarily forgotten about as the national conversation moves on to Australia's epidemic of women killed by violence this year with the number 31 being thrown around ad nauseum(and no mention of the amount of men killed by violence this year which is higher) while the child victims of violent parents who have significantly less agency than adult women, are not afforded the same national attention.