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USER​	HANDICAP​	MEMBER COURSE​	BEST ROUND​
Bicco​	6.2​	Royal Hobart​	76​
TennisPlayerAndy​	6.4​	Heidelberg​	73​
Tiimmbo​	8.3​	Royal Fremantle​	78​
tigland​	5.7​	13th Beach​	73/44pts​
buttsauce​	9.3​	Leongatha South​	76​
toxic​	10.8​	Howlong​	71​
Planet14​	11.4​	Bacchus Marsh Golf Club​	80​
Livonski​	11.5​	Kingston Heath​	79​
ScrappyCoCo​	12.5*​	-​	75​
ITCHY EYEBALLS​	12.8​	The Dunes​	80​
Pklz​	14​	Romesy GC​	77/48pts​
iDon​	11.6​	Social Golf Australia​	80/44 pts​
Lebbo73​	12.3​	City GC Toowomba​	77​
Sippa​	16.9​	-​	85/43 pts​
Shane Sheridan​	18.5​	Perth Golf Network​	87​
daicos4ever​	23.7​	Lang Lang GC​
juss​	26.8​	-​	91/40 pts​
members section​	33​	-​	-​
BobbyMorri​	33​	Claremont​	97​
Elixuh​	-​	Pacific, Brisbane​	​
peternorth​	15​	NGC, PKCGC​	80​
Nelso​	-​	-​	78​
sideswipe​	-​	Sorrento​	Cups WR​

 

[Shane Sheridan]

87 at Hamersely this morning. 4 over after 3, 6 over at the turn. 8 over with 3 to go, dropped 7 strokes on the last 3 holes.
27 putts, irons best I've ever hit them, driver was disgraceful.

 

[peternorth]

94 At The National today. Into the wind on the front few meant coming home with the wind on the toughest home stretch known to man and woman. A fantastic 2 points in the last 4 holes was the icing on the cake. Oh yeah the wind shifted meaning playing into it on the way in So yeah **** that. 94 off the stick but take out the quad and3 x doubles and it looks ok.

 

[Chip Scab1]

94 At The National today. Into the wind on the front few meant coming home with the wind on the toughest home stretch known to man and woman. A fantastic 2 points in the last 4 holes was the icing on the cake. Oh yeah the wind shifted meaning playing into it on the way in So yeah **** that. 94 off the stick but take out the quad and3 x doubles and it looks ok.

Just a typical day on the Shark course.

Love the finishing stretch into the wind, genuinely savage. 18 isn't that tough, but the stretch SAF is.

 

[Lebbo73]

I had 32 points at Wynnum Golf Club today. 28 points after 14 holes after sinking a reasonably easy two meter birdie putt on the toughest rated hole on the course. Then it went to shit.

 

[daicos4ever]

Started the year with 34 pts (93). First 9 had 12 points, second 9 went into a zone and had 22, finished with 10 pts over the last 3 holes. Made less mistakes, had some spinny chip shots, and no bunker until the 18th hole. Despite all that I’m dropping a decent flag so my hcp will push well back into the 20’s.

 

[daicos4ever]

14 over Waterford Valley today. Blow out on the last. Pars and Bogies for the first 17.

Record for me...13 from 14 fairways hit. The one miss was decent...fairway bunker on a par 5. Did not capitalize with not enough greens in reg and too many putts.

Sounds exactly like my last round there, hit every fairway until the 18th where I went in the water twice and had a moose.

No brotherly love at the end either, my mate who I played with claimed he beat me even though he had at least one mulligan a hole.

 

[Shane Sheridan]

14 over at Wembley Tuart this morning. 7 over after 4, triple, double and a couple of bogeys.
9 pars over the last 14 holes, 3 doubles though. Need to bring the doubles into bogeys.

 

[ScrappyCoCo]

7 over 79 Waterford Valley today. 11/14 fairways. 11 Greens in reg. No Birdies. Four 3 putts dam it. Putting prevented me from having one of my best rounds ever. 34 putts.

 

[Chip Scab1]

7 over 79 Waterford Valley today. 11/14 fairways. 11 Greens in reg. No Birdies. Four 3 putts dam it. Putting prevented me from having one of my best rounds ever. 34 putts.

You have learn how to Birdie the Par 5's there (well everywhere) - rule that my absolute golfing freak mate uses is: lay up to ~77m unless you're hitting an iron in as your 2nd shot. Worked for me.

Simple and logical.

 

[ScrappyCoCo]

You have learn how to Birdie the Par 5's there (well everywhere) - rule that my absolute golfing freak mate uses is: lay up to ~77m unless you're hitting an iron in as your 2nd shot. Worked for me.

Simple and logical.

Unfortunately approaching 60 years of age...mostly hitting in from 100 on my 3rd with my best shots sadly!

 

[sideswipe]

Unfortunately approaching 60 years of age...mostly hitting in from 100 on my 3rd with my best shots sadly!

I think you supplied us with a simpler answer when you mentioned those 4 three putts. Coulda been a great one!

 

[sideswipe]

You have learn how to Birdie the Par 5's there (well everywhere) - rule that my absolute golfing freak mate uses is: lay up to ~77m unless you're hitting an iron in as your 2nd shot. Worked for me.

Simple and logical.

That is old school thinking. Strokes gained has completely thrown out the idea of hitting to yardages - except for laying up short of trouble. And as for birdies, as handicaps go down, they only marginally increase. Its reducing bogeys and removing doubles where the low marks score.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

That is old school thinking. Strokes gained has completely thrown out the idea of hitting to yardages - except for laying up short of trouble. And as for birdies, as handicaps go down, they only marginally increase. Its reducing bogeys and removing doubles where the low marks score.

Crazy to me that blokes off 10 average less than one under par hole per round…

 

[peternorth]

peninsula kwood tomorrow

 

[Chip Scab1]

That is old school thinking. Strokes gained has completely thrown out the idea of hitting to yardages - except for laying up short of trouble. And as for birdies, as handicaps go down, they only marginally increase. Its reducing bogeys and removing doubles where the low marks score.

I'm not the one who has trouble making birdies..

Ever had rounds without a 5?

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Crazy to me that blokes off 10 average less than one under par hole per round…

Yep, ridiculous. 2-3 for you, otherwise you've chopped it?

~30 putts

It's a simple game, really. Just be better.

Unfortunately approaching 60 years of age...mostly hitting in from 100 on my 3rd with my best shots sadly!

With new technology, you're probably hitting it as far as ever... no?

 

[sideswipe]

I'm not the one who has trouble making birdies..

Ever had rounds without a 5?

Yep, ridiculous. 2-3 for you, otherwise you've chopped it?

~30 putts

It's a simple game, really. Just be better.


With new technology, you're probably hitting it as far as ever... no?

See the numbers in the table above.

They have more meaning than boasts to strangers on the internet. Did you do that before you bumped your head?

 

[sideswipe]

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Crazy to me that blokes off 10 average less than one under par hole per round…

Also a good counter to those who don’t like playing in Par comps because their net eagles don’t count. Neither do their net doubles.

 

[Chip Scab1]

Unfortunately approaching 60 years of age...mostly hitting in from 100 on my 3rd with my best shots sadly!

With new technology, you're probably hitting it as far as ever... no?

See the numbers in the table above.

They have more meaning than boasts to strangers on the internet. Did you do that before you bumped your head?

now, I'm back to about 1 every 2 rounds.

Boast? lol it was my 3rd sport. Hardly boasting. Who knows, just wasted my time playing cricket in Aus and Eng.

But the key to confidence is being able back it up, from 80m in nothing much has changed which is what you need to make birdies and break 80 in any conditions on any course ie: play golf.

I guess that's old School thinking. And mate, knocking my head was my fault, bowel cancer was not. At least give me that... I'm trying to help others be better not gain anything myself. It helps me (my recovery really) in some small way to be of service, at least give me that much without insinuating I'm an arrogant campaigner. (I am, but it's not built from my golf game).

 

[ScrappyCoCo]

Nope lost distance over the last couple of years. Grip down on Driver and have it on max loft now and find the centre a lot more which still gets out 200 to 220m if conditions help. Hitting a lot more fairways doing this. Playing a course that is not as tight (Driver friendly place) and really enjoying golf atm.

 

[Bicco]

Well don't I just love this game!!!

42pts, won the comp convincingly.
13 fairways hit. Thats it in a nutshell.
Got very "score aware" late and wiped 17.
4/3 on 18 got one back.

Anyone getting a great golf gift for Christmas?

I got a new ogio Silencer bag.
Probably not as good a design as my old one, but the old one was done.
Still a good bag though.

 

[Bicco]

That is old school thinking. Strokes gained has completely thrown out the idea of hitting to yardages - except for laying up short of trouble. And as for birdies, as handicaps go down, they only marginally increase. Its reducing bogeys and removing doubles where the low marks score.

I'm not sure if I agree or disagree. IMO clear thinking is paramount if you want to score well. 'Except for laying up short of trouble' is a key comment. Good players miss well. I hit 3w off a lot of tees because it means I can't reach trouble, not because it's more accurate. Stats will say I need to improve my driver accuracy, but thats a real 'no s**t sherlock piece of info. Of course a 300m tee shot is better than 200m, but if there's water both sides of the fairway from 230m, I'm hitting 2i off the tee every day.
So if you have confidence you can get close to up and down from a 70m layup, you do it.
Something that is completely overlooked is the hole rankings.
The #1 hole is a bogey for everyone at the club except the 10 blokes off of 1 or better. Play the course. I bet most clubs have a few shortish par 4s that are ranked in the harder holes. Why? Because there's danger where everyone wants to hit the ball I.e.bunkers at 220/240m from the tee. So you either carry 250m or lay up to 220m. Do I need a stat to tell me that if I drove the ball straight, with a 250m carry, I'd score better?
If a 280m hole is ranked #7 on the course, there's a reason. You need to be able to see the course with your eyes and play accordingly.
Stats are great for reviewing your round and finding areas of improvement. But they shouldn't be used to play a round of golf. Just because pros can get up and down from 30m 68.3% of the time should mean nothing to you on the course. Especially if you're on a course where in summer the rough isn't watered and the lie could be anything. If you have confidence with that 70m shot, you do it.

 

[sideswipe]

I'm not sure if I agree or disagree. IMO clear thinking is paramount if you want to score well. 'Except for laying up short of trouble' is a key comment. Good players miss well. I hit 3w off a lot of tees because it means I can't reach trouble, not because it's more accurate. Stats will say I need to improve my driver accuracy, but thats a real 'no s**t sherlock piece of info. Of course a 300m tee shot is better than 200m, but if there's water both sides of the fairway from 230m, I'm hitting 2i off the tee every day.
So if you have confidence you can get close to up and down from a 70m layup, you do it.
Something that is completely overlooked is the hole rankings.
The #1 hole is a bogey for everyone at the club except the 10 blokes off of 1 or better. Play the course. I bet most clubs have a few shortish par 4s that are ranked in the harder holes. Why? Because there's danger where everyone wants to hit the ball I.e.bunkers at 220/240m from the tee. So you either carry 250m or lay up to 220m. Do I need a stat to tell me that if I drove the ball straight, with a 250m carry, I'd score better?
If a 280m hole is ranked #7 on the course, there's a reason. You need to be able to see the course with your eyes and play accordingly.
Stats are great for reviewing your round and finding areas of improvement. But they shouldn't be used to play a round of golf. Just because pros can get up and down from 30m 68.3% of the time should mean nothing to you on the course. Especially if you're on a course where in summer the rough isn't watered and the lie could be anything. If you have confidence with that 70m shot, you do it.

Broadie’s Strokes Gained research basically says that even with the wider dispersion of a longer club, placing that circle of dispersion closer to the hole results in better scores. And most players don’t have massive reductions in dispersion as they go down the bag. But they are miles better with a wedge than say a 7 iron.

Of course there are many times when laying up short of trouble is the absolute answer. I know I should have done it on the 11th at Sorrento this morning - but a key idea espoused by strokes gained is that most ammos are no more accurate off the tee with a 3w than driver.

 

[sideswipe]

With new technology, you're probably hitting it as far as ever... no?

now, I'm back to about 1 every 2 rounds.

Boast? lol it was my 3rd sport. Hardly boasting. Who knows, just wasted my time playing cricket in Aus and Eng.

But the key to confidence is being able back it up, from 80m in nothing much has changed which is what you need to make birdies and break 80 in any conditions on any course ie: play golf.

I guess that's old School thinking. And mate, knocking my head was my fault, bowel cancer was not. At least give me that... I'm trying to help others be better not gain anything myself. It helps me (my recovery really) in some small way to be of service, at least give me that much without insinuating I'm an arrogant campaigner. (I am, but it's not built from my golf game).

The real problem is that your schtick isn’t entertaining

 

[Bicco]

Broadie’s Strokes Gained research basically says that even with the wider dispersion of a longer club, placing that circle of dispersion closer to the hole results in better scores. And most players don’t have massive reductions in dispersion as they go down the bag. But they are miles better with a wedge than say a 7 iron.

Of course there are many times when laying up short of trouble is the absolute answer. I know I should have done it on the 11th at Sorrento this morning - but a key idea espoused by strokes gained is that most ammos are no more accurate off the tee with a 3w than driver.

And with all due respect to Broadie's research, that's pointing out the bleeding obvious. Sport in general just cannot be played on a theory.
The English cricket team and Bazball is a prime example.
In the professional golf world, it's a bit different. Winning is everything. A win opens doors that evey other place just doesn't offer, so their attitudes will be different to shots than an amateur.
I somewhat disagree with the last sentence though. Golf courses often put danger in the spot you would really like to hit it to.
I agree a 3w is no more accurate, but it simply won't reach danger compared to a driver. Our 2nd has a gap of maybe 20m between x2 fairway bunkers at 230m, yet probably 90% of players take it on. Madness.
I'm a big believer in thinking conservatively for the most part. That gets you better scores definitely IMO.
Downwind? Smash it. Because it is fun to hit the ball as hard as you can. I popped one out 290m last week. Sometimes Bazball works. Most of the time it doesn't.

 

[sideswipe]

And with all due respect to Broadie's research, that's pointing out the bleeding obvious. Sport in general just cannot be played on a theory.
The English cricket team and Bazball is a prime example.
In the professional golf world, it's a bit different. Winning is everything. A win opens doors that evey other place just doesn't offer, so their attitudes will be different to shots than an amateur.
I somewhat disagree with the last sentence though. Golf courses often put danger in the spot you would really like to hit it to.
I agree a 3w is no more accurate, but it simply won't reach danger compared to a driver. Our 2nd has a gap of maybe 20m between x2 fairway bunkers at 230m, yet probably 90% of players take it on. Madness.
I'm a big believer in thinking conservatively for the most part. That gets you better scores definitely IMO.
Downwind? Smash it. Because it is fun to hit the ball as hard as you can. I popped one out 290m last week. Sometimes Bazball works. Most of the time it doesn't.

I use Arccos. Its AI caddy is almost ready. Not in comps obviously but I do/dont look forward to it knowingy game well enough to have me 200 from home with some lumber in hand and it says, “no, champion, it’s a 6”.