List Mgmt. We Got Him! Beams Trade Discussion (Not the Hype Thread)

[Dan12]

Gold Coast won't get Beams. We have his brother, higher picks, more cash and GC have no need for him with the midfield they are building. He's coming to us or staying at Collingwood.

I think we should definitely be angling to have Ryan Lester as part of a possible trade. With Beams, Rockliff and Redden there isn't much hope for Lester to be any more than a depth player at Brisbane. Meanwhile Collingwood's midfield depth is terrible without Beams and Lester is a fine replacement for Luke Ball.
Personally I'd offer our first two picks and Ryan Lester. Generous but a fair trade for a contracted, 24yo superstar imo.

 

[Always a Lion]

Well Pick 4 will be part of the Trade. What else can you offer with Pick 4

Probably a swap of picks within rounds or pick upgrades.

 

[Roylion]

Like with Ryder, Brisbane will make their pitch and a contract offer to Beams. No doubt Gold Coast will do the same. From what I can gather, Brisbane has a greater capacity to present a superior financial contract to Beams, especially if they can pay 105% of the cap next year and re-negotiate existing front ended contracts.

If Beams were to nominate Brisbane that may also have a positive impact on Ryder doing the same.

 

[Mavlions1961]

If Beams were to nominate Brisbane that may also have a positive impact on Ryder doing the same.

I think you are spot on Roy, this type of news you would think will hopefully have an influence on Ryder.

 

[POBT]

Pick 4 +

(in ascending order as to value IMO)
Golby
Crisp
Lester
Merrett
2nd round pick
Leuenberger

Not sure I'd be willing to put much else on the table. Maybe Cutler?

 

[Sidebottom2Beams]

Hope he makes it to you guys to play with his brother.
Helped the club win a flag so he owes us nothing.

 

[FFB1]

I imagine Collingwood would take our first pick. And perhaps a swap of second round picks.

 

[Dylan12]

Well the news was all over the sports segments on all the national news here in Melbourne and in GF week, I reckon that is a pretty big deal.

 

[Always a Lion]

Things have slowed up a bit around here. Where is everybody?

Hell, I'd better head off to the Magpies board like everyone else, it's where all the fun is.

 

[jackess]

Can we rule out Zorko working some magic here?

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-08-26/second-beams-in-brisbane

 

[Corkie]

I am terrified that the Suns will pinch him. Surely they don't have the type of cash we will have to throw at him.

Hard to gauge how much spare cash we have in the cap. Bock, Campbell Brown and Hunt come off our list for next season so that frees up a minimum $700k-$1mil you would think? You guys surely have the bait though in Claye. It will cost overs but I think you guys will get the trade done. Pies need to trade him this year instead of next.

 

[The GOAT]

If Beams were to nominate Brisbane that may also have a positive impact on Ryder doing the same.

If you use 4 plus 22 on Beams, how will you trade for Ryder?

 

[Flea_29]

Pick 4 should be the most logical.
Next option - pick 4 and a swap of 2nd rd picks might be fair OR pick 4 and a fringe/role player.

Aish WILL NOT be part of any deal - once the trading period is done don't be surprised if he signs a multi-year extension.

 

[jackess]

If you use 4 plus 22 on Beams, how will you trade for Ryder?

We won't. We never went after him, he came to us. We have been chasing beams though, apparantly.

 

[Some Idiot]

Should go down like:
Hey mate, want to play with your brother? Sweet, see you in November.

 

[Roylion]

If you use 4 plus 22 on Beams, how will you trade for Ryder?

When and where did I say 4 & 22 for Beams was going to happen?

 

[Ironmonger]

If you use 4 plus 22 on Beams, how will you trade for Ryder?

Yeah, doesn't seem likely does it? Impossible without trading away an established player, or a valuable kid like Aish.

 

[chopperduck]

Hope he makes it to you guys to play with his brother.
Helped the club win a flag so he owes us nothing.

Comments are appreciated. TBH, i don't think you guys will be compensated as much as you probably deserve for him, but it will be decent. We aren't going to try and rip you off with this trade. You will get something decent in return. Pies have some good young talent, and you'll be able to very quickly regenerate your list and the players you have lost i think.

 

[Crawb]

Most ideal for us - Pick 4 for Beams. However Collingwood will play hardball so we'll have to give something else up. If we're getting Ryder (with our early 2nd round pick) the club will still want a second round pick for academy stuff, so Pick 4 + Leuenberger for Beams + Collingwood 2nd rounder could work for us.

 

[Giant Pete]

You guys are in the strong position... I can only laugh as I remember how collingwood supporters were saying they should bend gws over on the taylor Adams deal because he was requesting to go home... I love how that wheel turns!

 

[Ironmonger]

Comments are appreciated. TBH, i don't think you guys will be compensated as much as you probably deserve for him, but it will be decent. We aren't going to try and rip you off with this trade. You will get something decent in return. Pies have some good young talent, and you'll be able to very quickly regenerate your list and the players you have lost i think.

Good post.

This is the guy that we want. We surely won't run the risk of a Fremantle-Mitch Clark scenario where we let it drag out to the point where the player gets cold feet, even if we were in a position to do so.

There's no reason this can't be a win-win trade.

 

[The GOAT]

When and where did I say 4 & 22 for Beams was going to happen?

You didn't. I assumed pick 4 plus something was a given, I just suggested 22 as the sweetener. Even if it's Beams for pick 4 (which is a little under his value IMO), was just curious how you could get both Beams and Ryder.

 

[Shaneprice97]

IMO, either pick 4 or Aish are the centrepiece of this trade. My preference is definitely to keep Aish.

Then it becomes what else we offer. At a minimum, it might need to be a Crisp or Lester type. At most, it is Leuenberger or our second rounder.

I really don't think pick 4 is enough. I hope I am wrong but a contracted Beams is surely worth more than a high draft pick.

Thanks for a good response.

Its gonna be hard trading him as a player of his abilities hasnt been traded for a while now, still young as well.

I honestly think Beams is a top 20 player in the AFL, and to trade someone you developed so well just for a high draft pick that probably wont be nearly as good as beams is going to hurt. So a straight swap for Beams and pick 4 seems like serious unders.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Hard to believe Dayne would choose the Suns when we will have more $$ plus his brother plays for us.

 

[jackess]

Hard to believe Dayne would choose the Suns when we will have more $$ plus his brother plays for us.

If Collingwood says 'Brisbane isn't offering us enough so it's Gold Coast or no trade' then he might not have a choice.