The Syrian War

[nut]

http://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/new...als-for-chemical-weapon-attacks-34286662.html

 

[jumpinjimmy]

all the money the U.S are pissing away on the Middle East adventures over decades is what will be their final undoing.

Nah....... for the time being they can print all the the money they need based on the petrodollar status and that's the rub. This war is about keeping US financial hegemony via the petrodollar, protecting oil access and of course Israel......but a change is coming fast with the Russians and China moving away from this trading scam. It is this change that will bring them down in a heap:

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/tag/petrodollar

http://finalwakeupcall.info/en/2015/04/30/petrodollar-almost-dethroned/

 

[evo]

Nah....... for the time being they can print all the the money they need based on the petrodollar status and that's the rub. This war is about keeping US financial hegemony via the petrodollar, protecting oil access and of course Israel......but a change is coming fast with the Russians and China moving away from this trading scam. It is this change that will bring them down in a heap:

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/tag/petrodollar

http://finalwakeupcall.info/en/2015/04/30/petrodollar-almost-dethroned/

thats already begun.

But you're right, the yanks will cling on petrodollar status a bit longer.

 

[jumpinjimmy]

I don't know if this was posted before? Here goes FWIW:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-...efellers-bilal-erdogan-krg-crude-and-israel-c

 

[CbayT]

I don't know if this was posted before? Here goes FWIW:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-...efellers-bilal-erdogan-krg-crude-and-israel-c

Yes the Israeli arm forces have been operating as a military hospital and arms supplier for the Kurds this is pretty common knowledge, so selling oil to them would not be unusual.

 

[MaddAdam]

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ibya-revealed-after-air-force-posted-pictures

 

[Frank Grimes]

Autonomy vs national sovereignty... The Yanks were fiercely defending a nation's national sovereignty in the face of a breakaway region quest for autonomy if not complete secession not too long ago. Meanwhile the Turks protect Kurds with one hand and slaughter them with the other. Different factions (Iraqi Kurdish National Congress/Peshmerga vs the Turkish Kurdistan Workers'Party/Syrian YPG), true, but supposedly bretheren all the same.

No matter which side you back, it's apparent that this war is most definitely no longer a 'civil war' at all, but a multi-national clusterf*ck.

Definately agree with the last comment. Apart from wanting ISIS to be wiped right off the map, I can't get my head around all the competing middle eastern/international groups interests and intentions. I'm not even sure if they know anymore.

 

[jumpinjimmy]

The monsters are falling like '10 pins'....the only question is with the forward northern march by the SAA gathering pace.... what will become of Kobane? Oh, and the thousands of IS cowards wanting to return 'home'.... I say close all borders on the Turk perimeter and let Erdogan cope with his drug addled, psychopathic spawn.

http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151218/1031939118/syria-army-daesh.html

Under no circumstances should Australia allow returning vermin into this country unless they are in orange suits and surrounded by a cage.

 

[jumpinjimmy]

Definately agree with the last comment. Apart from wanting ISIS to be wiped right off the map, I can't get my head around all the competing middle eastern/international groups interests and intentions. I'm not even sure if they know anymore.

It would be wise for Assad to begin negotiations with the Kurds now! An independent Kurdistan to the north will serve a dual purpose. It will ensure a buffer region between it and an enemy state and piss-off the Islamist elements in Turkey no-end......and why not plonk a Russian base on the outskirts of Aleppo for good measure....win,win...and win!

 

[nut]

Asaad can not stay because if he does all that the U.S. and it allies have done would be deemed war crimes.

 

[nut]

 

[nut]

After watching that ( and I'm against US gun laws ), no wonder they want disarm the population.

 

[jumpinjimmy]

Respect once again to Abby Martin

 

[rowie343]

Good video. And that's what is all about - big business. Nothing more, nothing less. Starting to get the feeling though of some kind of shift. Even the usual sheep who whole heartedly swallow MSM crap are starting to take a slightly different view on matters.

 

[nut]

A local subsidiary of the New York-listed company Genie Energy — which is advised by former vice president Dick Cheney and whose shareholders include Jacob Rothschild and Rupert Murdoch — will now have exclusive rights to a 153-square mile radius in the southern part of the Golan Heights.


http://www.businessinsider.com.au/israel-grants-golan-heights-oil-license-2013-2

 

[nut]

Good video. And that's what is all about - big business. Nothing more, nothing less. Starting to get the feeling though of some kind of shift. Even the usual sheep who whole heartedly swallow MSM crap are starting to take a slightly different view on matters.

The scary thing is that its not sustainable.... the present capitalist system is doomed to fail.... it needs to continue to feed its self so it will collapse. The thing is that the worlds wage earners cant afford to pay the worlds debt... so the multinational corporations have to continue to plunder sovereign nations or the house of cards will fall.
Sustainability and socialism is its enemy.

 

[awaremind]

Good video. And that's what is all about - big business. Nothing more, nothing less. Starting to get the feeling though of some kind of shift. Even the usual sheep who whole heartedly swallow MSM crap are starting to take a slightly different view on matters.

No s**t, Its awesome to see things change, The US leadership just does not have the intelligence or even foreign policy goodwill to compete with the Russian leadership of Putin and importantly, Lavrov. They are more consistent in their messages and make more sense to a western populace to whom they have made a massive effort to engage with. Its interestingly, the "Mindwar" Described by the imfamous Colonel Aquino that Putin appears to be winning, using strategies from his expertise in Judo and Chess. Clearly they are not Saints, they are ruthless men, but they are more more honest or in touch with reality, at least in foreign affairs than senior western leadership.

 

[awaremind]

The scary thing is that its not sustainable.... the present capitalist system is doomed to fail.... it needs to continue to feed its self so it will collapse. The thing is that the worlds wage earners cant afford to pay the worlds debt... so the multinational corporations have to continue to plunder sovereign nations or the house of cards will fall.
Sustainability and socialism is its enemy.

not necessarily true, growth can definitely continue, almost indefinitely, but it must be growth in efficiency, and intelligence with respect and understanding for the Earths natural systems.

 

[MaddAdam]

For all the talk of Putin and mind war, the prick is using fuel air weapons on civilians in Idlib.

 

[jumpinjimmy]

For all the talk of Putin and mind war, the prick is using fuel air weapons on civilians in Idlib.

Unfortunately the Islamist terrorists wont give up their positions easily. I really wish there was another way, but I can't see any option bar total war. The advancing Coalition (RUS/SAA/HEZ/IA) near Aleppo is dropping leaflets urging civilians to use designated escape channels before attacks commence.

 

[awaremind]

For all the talk of Putin and mind war, the prick is using fuel air weapons on civilians in Idlib.

Wasn't a good idea to arm and fund terrorist by the west then was it ? Its a morally bankrupt ploy that has been used for a long time now, notably in Afghanistan, Chechnya, Libya, Syria, Yemen and many other regions.

 

[MaddAdam]

Unfortunately the Islamist terrorists wont give up their positions easily. I really wish there was another way, but I can't see any option bar total war. The advancing Coalition (RUS/SAA/HEZ/IA) near Aleppo is dropping leaflets urging civilians to use designated escape channels before attacks commence.

Merci Bashar.

I'm not on the side of the tyrant, albeit an oddly s**t looking one with a hot wife who has proven himself remarkably capable as a general under siege.

Nor can I sympathize with anyone still fighting in Syria. They are literally dying for yards of ceasefire line now. Especially in places like Idlib and Aleppo.

The only Syrians anyone should sympathise with are the 12;000 who will be arriving very soon.

 

[MaddAdam]

Also lol, no other option than total war?

 

[MaddAdam]

Wasn't a good idea to arm and fund terrorist by the west then was it ? Its a morally bankrupt ploy that has been used for a long time now, notably in Afghanistan, Chechnya, Libya, Syria, Yemen and many other regions.

Yeah, Second Chechen War, where Vlad may or may not have blown up a few apartment blocks in 99 to help with elections.

 

[awaremind]

Yeah, Second Chechen War, where Vlad may or may not have blown up a few apartment blocks in 99 to help with elections.

One thing that the Syrian War is showing us without a trace of a doubt, is that Western media is little more than the mouthpiece for the agents of war.

Can i just for once try to be you regurgitating MSM with some unproven rumour - "Or the Syrian war where Bashar Assad repeatedly released Chemical weapons on his own people."

When, as we speak, a Turkish whistleblower is being imprisoned for being a traitor for revealing Turkish officials supplied the rebels(or was it IS ? ...same s**t) with the ingredients for Sarin gas attacks. Bashar promptly gave up his stockpiles.