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- May 27, 2014
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The thing is, Carlton aren't short of dickheads (though Mick seems to be weeding them out).
Is Mick weeding himself out?
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The thing is, Carlton aren't short of dickheads (though Mick seems to be weeding them out).
Reminds me of when we picked up Martin Pyke. I think Lethal asked the senior players if he was worth the risk. The players all said yes. The big difference is Pyke was already a premiership player. Streets ahead of Robinson. Pykie was the ultimate spare parts man in our glory days. His only misdemeanor with us was when he head butted the CEO for which he should have got a medal. I say no but I would accept him if the players said yes.Depends who you get it from.
amiriteTairy?
The thing is, Carlton aren't short of dickheads (though Mick seems to be weeding them out). While one club is tossing out dickheads, many here seem to be advocating us gaining one. There are 2 predominant arguments for us doing so;
The one argument that does make sense and the one I accept, is that we can or should have faith in our coach, list manager and CEO, and I do. Despite my misgivings and protestations, if the club decides he has a place here, that is the one reason I accept, and I will.
- He has some footballing upside. I don't dispute this, but Carlton could probably use a decent footballer as much or more than us (though our footballers have a bit of developing to go), yet they have valued the riddance of dickheads over keeping him. Some behavioural issues can be overlooked for the returns gained on ability. Voss and Black being involved in a pub scuffle for example, is easily pushed aside considering what they brought to the team. If a dickhead played like Abblett or J. Selwood, I probably wouldn't care so much if he had a habit of shitting in the Queen St Mall, but does Mitch's football prowess outweigh his dickheadness?
- Everyone's been a dickhead at some time in their life. To me, this is a ridiculous argument. I'm not interested in whether his antics or behaviour should be adjudged as making him a bad or good person, or what sort of human being he should be viewed as. He is no worse than many hundreds of young men his age. That doesn't make him suitable to be a valuable member of our team. It doesn't make it okay to be an influence on any of our young blokes. Hell, I used to binge drink 4 nights a week when I was a youngster, not something I would recommend for anyone and certainly not something acceptable for a listed player of The Lions. Just because others (myself included) have been dickheads sometime in their life doesn't make it okay for our club to employ one.
Just his competition.Is Mick weeding himself out?
Robinson's defensive pressure is fine.
He actually does have positive aspects to his game, John!
Your logic is flawed. Robinson has had a 100 game career at Carlton. Patfull came as an unknown rookie.So we should have never picked up Patfull? Your logic is flawed. Sydney is also made up of loads of rejects...
Of course not and I will be obviously expecting the player to improve from what I have seen and be one of us now. But even you have said it "Carlton's Dickhead Team of the Century" and you get the likes of me that question his ability. A lot to worry about with this one for mine. I so hope I am wrong. I really do.Because he'd also make the starting midfield rotation of Carlton's Dickhead Team of the Century.
I'm supportive of what Swanny and Leppa decide to do. They certainly don't seem like they are making decisions without careful consideration.
Your logic is flawed. Robinson has had a 100 game career at Carlton. Patfull came as an unknown rookie.
b1tching and moaning about their decisions on an internet forum.
I am happy to be proven wrong.John, I'm not quite certain, but I think you might be saying you don't rate Robinson?
Actually Id take Handringham too.
and Jetta.
If he's proven 22 why is Carlton delisting him?
That was 2006, a very different team at a very different stage of development, still stacked with a team full of premiership winning stars. Adding an overlooked rookie then is totally different to known ratbag to our current side. Then and now have different needs.He said "... we don't need rejects who can't get games in other sides". That's what I was pointing too. Patfull was a rookie who couldn't get a game at Port.. if we didn't pick him up we wouldn't have had a club champ of his ilk. I'm not saying Robinson will become a club champ, but I, like most others would trust in the Lion's current administration. They've proven to be of a higher calibre than our previous administration and at some stage you have to give them a level of trust to do their job instead of just b1tching and moaning about their decisions on an internet forum.
Plus Joel was a good boy.Your logic is flawed. Robinson has had a 100 game career at Carlton. Patfull came as an unknown rookie.
For any doubters of Robbo, check this out, it is against us in 2011, please don't look at the score.
Depends who you get it from.
amiriteTairy?
Adam Carter was just delisted by West Coast. I would be really interested in picking him up as a DFA or in the draft. He could potentially play as a small defender. I thought he looked really good last year,
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