Oppo Camp 2015 non-Geelong match and general football discussion

[Biggy_Boy]

There's some video on the AFL website of Christensen spouting off about values like "camaraderie with your teammates". Spare me. About as genuine as Ablett telling Gold Coast kids to remain loyal to the club.

 

[BIGANT]

I didn't find the war dance from goodes demonstative, but because it was from goodes it's now an issue. It's no different to GI f doing his goanna dance after a try

 

[BIGANT]

Yeah and on Christensen.....wish maxxy rooke was playing in a couple of weeks when we got them.

 

[allrighty]

I didn't find the war dance from goodes demonstative, but because it was from goodes it's now an issue. It's no different to GI f doing his goanna dance after a try

Problem is if he does not see this could be inflammatory then he has rocks in his head. Which I am beginning to think is the issue here. He may be well motivated but may also be as dumb as dogs.

Just means more people will turn on him, and whatever it is he is trying to say will be lost.

 

[dazbroncos]

Problem is if he does not see this could be inflammatory then he has rocks in his head. Which I am beginning to think is the issue here. He may be well motivated but may also be as dumb as dogs.

Just means more people will turn on him, and whatever it is he is trying to say will be lost.[/QUOTE



Dennis didn't help matters by saying in the call he should not have done that. Lingy shut him down saying any goal celebration that is not offensive of vulgar is fine.

And ffs, it's indigenous round. Of all the times he's gonna do it let him do it. People get wound up over such rubbish sometimes. He's an Aboriginal. If he wants to celebrate like that let him.
I carry on like a total moron as an Aussie over here sticking it up the seppos every chance I get. I'm not rude about about it but it's a fair whack.

Goodees did nothing wrong . He is proud of his heritage as he should be. Have at it.

And if there are people too stupid to u see stand that then IMO they can leave the game and come back after they have learnt some acceptance .

And that includes Dennis.

Go Catters

 

[FredLeDeux]

Problem is if he does not see this could be inflammatory then he has rocks in his head. Which I am beginning to think is the issue here. He may be well motivated but may also be as dumb as dogs.

Just means more people will turn on him, and whatever it is he is trying to say will be lost.

It was deliberately provocative and inflammatory, full stop.

 

[Whit3y]

his goodes at being a flog

 

[footycats007]

Goodes constantly tries to bring attention to himself. Just play the game!!

 

[James1970]

It was deliberately provocative and inflammatory, full stop.

You forgot magnificent as well.

 

[Turbocat]

There's some video on the AFL website of Christensen spouting off about values like "camaraderie with your teammates". Spare me. About as genuine as Ablett telling Gold Coast kids to remain loyal to the club.

There will be some video around how he loves Geelong for the chance they gave him etc... all very sincere and how he feels at the time.... but really about as enriching as a meal at McDonalds.

 

[FredLeDeux]

You forgot magnificent as well.

There are lots of subsidiary questions.
I was merely making the point that, when discussing them, nobody should start off by fudging the one unassailable fact, namely that it was deliberately provocative.

 

[Turbocat]

I didn't find the war dance from goodes demonstative, but because it was from goodes it's now an issue. It's no different to GI f doing his goanna dance after a try

Whether its come from crowd reaction or not.... this has the potential now to become a Nicky Winmar moment... and it could get spun into an Australian Haka. Whether this is great for an all embracing of "one" australia I'm not sure.

 

[thegerman]

Problem is if he does not see this could be inflammatory then he has rocks in his head. Which I am beginning to think is the issue here. He may be well motivated but may also be as dumb as dogs.

Just means more people will turn on him, and whatever it is he is trying to say will be lost.

Aka Mundine.

Inciting people, is not leadership. His own coach couldn't hear booing, yet he did this to mainly the Carlton supporters area.

Talking about race issues in this country is desperately needed. I'm unsure if such a gesture makes positive inroads into this need.

 

[JUBJUB]

I didn't find the war dance from goodes demonstative, but because it was from goodes it's now an issue. It's no different to GI f doing his goanna dance after a try

The fact it was directed at Carlton supporters,who he said himself hadn't said anything, is what has made it an issue and is what has made sure he'll be booed more than ever now.
Had he done it in the direction of Kenny Williams and his posse of nannas behind the goal then there wouldn't be as much fuss.

 

[Catastic82]

The fact that it was directed towards the crowd and they were up by 45 points to me was intimidating

Not includibgg the fact he was "spearing " the crowd as well

He's a flog a massive attention whore of a bloke too

Yes he does mean well to raise indigenous issues as he should, however the way he conducts himself on the footy field is why I boo him and I suspect why everyone else boos him aswell.

 

[JUBJUB]

I'm not a soccer fan but don't most soccer leagues frown on actions like what Goodes did as it could incite crowds [not that that takes much] ?

 

[Partridge]

I didn't find the war dance from goodes demonstative, but because it was from goodes it's now an issue. It's no different to GI f doing his goanna dance after a try

Remember though, newspapers want to sell editions, and internet sites want to generate hits. Manufacturing outrage where there isn't any is to be expected. Especially when being offended is now a national pastime.

Don't particularly care for Goodes, but it doesn't bother me one iota how he celebrates goals.

 

[Catastic82]

So brave doing it when they were 45 points up... So brave

And to the blue cheer squad who bothered turning up to such a one sided game...so brave

 

[Partridge]

He's a flog a massive attention whore of a bloke too

Yes he does mean well to raise indigenous issues as he should, however the way he conducts himself on the footy field is why I boo him and I suspect why everyone else boos him as well.

Absolutely correct so far as I can tell. Well said.

Memo to Adam: not everyone is going to worship you or thank you, and some fans (from all clubs) are morons. Welcome to reality.

 

[JUBJUB]

Shannon Byrnes is playing a game for Shepparton this weekend.He's tweeted the team line up in the Shepp News.He's named at ruck rover

 

[rocker_oz33]

LOL poor Holland he better get some cream for hes .

 

[SleazySimon]

It was deliberately provocative and inflammatory, full stop.

Who was he harming? Acker used to do it after every game, the Mauris do the hacka, etc. Shock horror - someone dared to celebrate a goal ffs

 

[Catastic82]

Who was he harming? Acker used to do it after every game, the Mauris do the hacka, etc. Shock horror - someone dared to celebrate a goal ffs

Spearing the crowd with an angry face was not a celebration in my book

 

[The rabbi]

Spearing the crowd with an angry face was not a celebration in my book

Oh Dear. I think that there has been a massive overreaction about this. I really cannot see the drama.

Anyway, if supporters can give crap over the fence I cannot see why a player cannot kick a goal and then by some gesture say "Put that in a dark damp part of your anatomy".

 

[SleazySimon]

Spearing the crowd with an angry face was not a celebration in my book

sorry i forgot his job is to please people like you