- Thread starter
- #3,401
and as a consequence... FA comp is worth less. Mmmmm
List Mgmt. 2016 general list discussion and speculation (cont in Pt.2)
- Thread starter Turbocat
- Start date
- Tagged users None
- Status
and as a consequence... FA comp is worth less. Mmmmm
- Mar 6, 2014
- 41,562
- 39,805
- AFL Club
- Geelong
1. Was it an answer to a direct question?
I am assuming that it was, as I doubt that he'd volunteer that opinion out of the blue.
2. If he said, "No. I don't rate him," would that make you feel better?
Probably not.
Don't worry about it- instead of the media waiting until August to get on the trades and retirements Merry-go-round, they now start in January. It means nothing.
He offered it up when asked about the Martin Leuy ruck combo, wasn't about trading, but obviously he is a free agent.
- Mar 6, 2014
- 41,562
- 39,805
- AFL Club
- Geelong
Ah ok. I haven't seen the presser yet. I'm sure all clubs would've trawled through the list of available players though. Any club looking for rucks would be weighing up their options to see if there's room for a lueueuey (might need to practise my spelling if we DO get him!
) or a Martin or whoever. I just am a bit cynical about what the media think is newsworthy and tend not to let it worry me too much. I'm so bloody over the Dangerfield saga. I'm sick of hearing his name already!
Ah ok. I haven't seen the presser yet. I'm sure all clubs would've trawled through the list of available players though. Any club looking for rucks would be weighing up their options to see if there's room for a lueueuey (might need to practise my spelling if we DO get him!
How sick are you of his name? What if it was Selwood kicks to Dangerfield. Would you be happy hearing that?
- Mar 6, 2014
- 41,562
- 39,805
- AFL Club
- Geelong
I can wait until November (?) to hear it again then, if we DO snag him, I reckon I won't be able to get enough of his name each week, once the season starts!! The more, the merrier!How sick are you of his name? What if it was Selwood kicks to Dangerfield. Would you be happy hearing that?
- Mar 6, 2014
- 41,562
- 39,805
- AFL Club
- Geelong
He played 3 games in 2012 and 5 games in 2014- you'd think he'd be up for 7 games in 2016, wouldn't you?
He played 3 games in 2012 and 5 games in 2014- you'd think he'd be up for 7 games in 2016, wouldn't you?
As long as its the last 7 games of the year.
- Mar 6, 2014
- 41,562
- 39,805
- AFL Club
- Geelong
Our new Mr September?
On that logic he looks a perfect fit
Pure_Ownage
TheBrownDog
Geelong and injury prone ruckmen is like a love story that never ends.
Pure_Ownage
TheBrownDog
Lonergan is the only one of the vets contracted for next year so they havent done their research that well.
Pivo
Brownlow Medallist
So do I, when he isn't injured.
As someone who has openly supported the Clark and McIntosh trades I'm not really a shrinking violet when it comes to these sorts of gambles (even when the McIntosh trade possibly cost us Grundy who I really like).
But even I am now thinking enough is enough.
After being burnt so many times recruiting injury prone players; going once more to the well for someone like Leuenberger is the LAST thing other clubs will be expecting us to do. The good old double bluff is on the cards. I mean we've come this far....
- Thread starter
- #3,419
Like to rate them? Piv ... I have not looked back and brought up individuals thoughts from the time , but we all make calls...
my memory of it... there was a degree of shock , then a general underlying confidence that "Hey its Geelong they must think they can get him to play... best ruck talent since Ottens etc" ... so the idea was fair enough... but who ever signed off on getting to play ...should be buried in an Anthill.
Still worth the risk.... but the risk should realistically should have said they needed coverage... ie min get a Rookie backup , perhaps a cheap more mature. We were playing the Banjanin weren't we... as VFL player ..Why? As a Rookie OK
On Clark.. we were upfront.. more so than with Hmac.. Its was a gamble. I questioned the need for it considering Walkers final series but his form did show a level above.... when playing well.
Both players traded in. With a FA... id say its even more reasonable to take a risk on a fragile player. Rivers has been fragile but a fantastic pickup.
Leuy may not be bullet proof so again, we must assess with more than just hope. Can Lucey or Read progress well enough to play if required next year? If not what happens if .....
Pivo
Brownlow Medallist
Yeah, the fact McIntosh struggled to get on the park in the 3 years he was with us does make the medicos who, I assume, signed this off look a touch incompetent.Like to rate them? Piv ... I have not looked back and brought up individuals thoughts from the time , but we all make calls...
my memory of it... there was a degree of shock , then a general underlying confidence that "Hey its Geelong they must think they can get him to play... best ruck talent since Ottens etc" ... so the idea was fair enough... but who ever signed off on getting to play ...should be buried in an Anthill.
Still worth the risk.... but the risk should realistically should have said they needed coverage... ie min get a Rookie backup , perhaps a cheap more mature. We were playing the Banjanin weren't we... as VFL player ..Why? As a Rookie OK
On Clark.. we were upfront.. more so than with Hmac.. Its was a gamble. I questioned the need for it considering Walkers final series but his form did show a level above.... when playing well.
Both players traded in. With a FA... id say its even more reasonable to take a risk on a fragile player. Rivers has been fragile but a fantastic pickup.
Leuy may not be bullet proof so again, we must assess with more than just hope. Can Lucey or Read progress well enough to play if required next year? If not what happens if .....
But without knowing all the ins-and-outs I can't really pass comment. Hey, Collingwood knocked back Steve Johnson on medical grounds, Joel Selwood slipped to 7 with "dodgy" knees...
As for Clark, well, I'm still hopeful but perhaps I'm stupid when it comes to this kind of thing.
- Thread starter
- #3,421
There is probably a debate about which is worse passing up a probably injured player and him being a star... , recruit a probable injured player and he becomes a beta tester for your medical dept.
- Feb 11, 2009
- 28,079
- 35,083
- AFL Club
- Geelong
- Other Teams
- #rompingwins
Hawks know all about that with Joel...
I'm sure by now they don't really care anymore
catempire
Premium Platinum
all.com.au's view on the big 4:
Patrick Dangerfield, Adelaide, restricted free agent
Despite the best efforts of most Victorian clubs, this year's biggest free agency fish will either stay at Adelaide or move to Geelong to be closer to his family home at nearby Moggs Creek. We expect the two-time All Australian to accept an offer from the Cats of about $800,000 a season over five years. We don't think the Crows will stand in his way by matching the offer.
Steven Motlop, Geelong, out of contract
The 24-year-old game-breaker has attracted significant rival interest, with Richmond and Adelaide understood to be leading the chase. Geelong is increasingly confident of re-signing Motlop, but a new deal is believed to be some way off. Geelong's efforts to retain the midfielder are complicated by its simultaneous pursuit of Dangerfield, Lachie Henderson, Scott Selwood and, possibly, Matthew Leuenberger, and by Motlop's ability to attract more than $500,000 a season on the open market.
Lachie Henderson, Carlton, out of contract
Carlton remains hopeful of retaining Henderson, but Geelong and the Western Bulldogs have made big plays for the 25-year-old swingman. Like Dangerfield, it is understood Henderson will either re-sign or move to Simonds Stadium. The Cats appear slight favourites to get their man, who could command up to $600,000 a season.
Scott Selwood, West Coast, restricted free agent
The chance to play with his elder brother Joel at Geelong seems the only thing that could entice Selwood to leave West Coast, a prospect that seems increasingly likely. Given the Eagles vice-captain is expected to be offered about $500,000 a season by the Cats, West Coast might be happy to bank what could be an end-of-first-round compensation pick.
Patrick Dangerfield, Adelaide, restricted free agent
Despite the best efforts of most Victorian clubs, this year's biggest free agency fish will either stay at Adelaide or move to Geelong to be closer to his family home at nearby Moggs Creek. We expect the two-time All Australian to accept an offer from the Cats of about $800,000 a season over five years. We don't think the Crows will stand in his way by matching the offer.
Steven Motlop, Geelong, out of contract
The 24-year-old game-breaker has attracted significant rival interest, with Richmond and Adelaide understood to be leading the chase. Geelong is increasingly confident of re-signing Motlop, but a new deal is believed to be some way off. Geelong's efforts to retain the midfielder are complicated by its simultaneous pursuit of Dangerfield, Lachie Henderson, Scott Selwood and, possibly, Matthew Leuenberger, and by Motlop's ability to attract more than $500,000 a season on the open market.
Lachie Henderson, Carlton, out of contract
Carlton remains hopeful of retaining Henderson, but Geelong and the Western Bulldogs have made big plays for the 25-year-old swingman. Like Dangerfield, it is understood Henderson will either re-sign or move to Simonds Stadium. The Cats appear slight favourites to get their man, who could command up to $600,000 a season.
Scott Selwood, West Coast, restricted free agent
The chance to play with his elder brother Joel at Geelong seems the only thing that could entice Selwood to leave West Coast, a prospect that seems increasingly likely. Given the Eagles vice-captain is expected to be offered about $500,000 a season by the Cats, West Coast might be happy to bank what could be an end-of-first-round compensation pick.
catempire
Premium Platinum
And the two rucks that have been linked to us:
Matthew Leuenberger, Brisbane Lions, restricted free agent
Several teams are in the market for a ruckman this season and Leuenberger is one of the most keenly sought after, with Essendon, Geelong and the Western Bulldogs understood to be interested. The Lions seem to have settled on Stefan Martin as their No.1 ruckman, so the West Australian could see more opportunity elsewhere. The Lions can match any rival offer for Leuenberger, but could be willing to let him go if the prospective compensation pick is attractive enough. The Sydney Swans would like to make a play for the ruckman but won't be serious contenders because of their trade restrictions.
Zac Smith, Gold Coast, out of contract
The Queenslander has struggled for opportunities this season with the Suns largely preferring Tom Nicholls as their No.1 ruckman. The 25-year-old has already been linked with Essendon and could also appeal to other clubs in the market for a ruckman such as Geelong and the Western Bulldogs.
Matthew Leuenberger, Brisbane Lions, restricted free agent
Several teams are in the market for a ruckman this season and Leuenberger is one of the most keenly sought after, with Essendon, Geelong and the Western Bulldogs understood to be interested. The Lions seem to have settled on Stefan Martin as their No.1 ruckman, so the West Australian could see more opportunity elsewhere. The Lions can match any rival offer for Leuenberger, but could be willing to let him go if the prospective compensation pick is attractive enough. The Sydney Swans would like to make a play for the ruckman but won't be serious contenders because of their trade restrictions.
Zac Smith, Gold Coast, out of contract
The Queenslander has struggled for opportunities this season with the Suns largely preferring Tom Nicholls as their No.1 ruckman. The 25-year-old has already been linked with Essendon and could also appeal to other clubs in the market for a ruckman such as Geelong and the Western Bulldogs.
- Status
Similar threads
- Locked
