Pick 21 to Hawks for Hartung and Whitecross is almost OTL from what I've heard. Only issue is that Hartung isn't sure if you wants to come up here. Apparently this is the case anyway but I heard it from source that has gotten things wrong before.
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If list spots get tight we can always do what we did with Paine last year and delist somehow like Close with the intention of picking them up in the rookie draft and putting them on the rookie list for their final year of their current contract if the player agrees.
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Totally different take on it at AFL.com
The proposed deal that would send Hawks Billy Hartung and Brendan Whitecross to the Brisbane Lions for one of the Lions' early second-round picks, No.16, No.19 or No.21, is no closer to being finalised and could fall over.
The clubs still can't agree on elements of the deal, and one source close to the negotiations expected the proposed trade would be abandoned, a turn of events that would further complicate the Hawks' negotiations with Gold Coast on Jaeger O'Meara.
However, Gold Coast and the Lions remain confident they can finalise a Pearce Hanley trade independently of the O'Meara deal.
If the Hawks secure pick No.16 from the Lions for Hartung and Whitecross, that selection, among other things, would almost surely pass to the Suns for O'Meara. The Suns could then offer it to the Lions for Hanley.
However, the Lions and Suns are confident that with each club's swag of top-30 draft picks – the Lions have No.3, No.16, No.19, No.21, the Suns No.4, No.8, No.22, No.24, No.26 and No.30 – that they can agree to a suitable swap that sends Hanley to Metricon Stadium.
The proposed deal that would send Hawks Billy Hartung and Brendan Whitecross to the Brisbane Lions for one of the Lions' early second-round picks, No.16, No.19 or No.21, is no closer to being finalised and could fall over.
The clubs still can't agree on elements of the deal, and one source close to the negotiations expected the proposed trade would be abandoned, a turn of events that would further complicate the Hawks' negotiations with Gold Coast on Jaeger O'Meara.
However, Gold Coast and the Lions remain confident they can finalise a Pearce Hanley trade independently of the O'Meara deal.
If the Hawks secure pick No.16 from the Lions for Hartung and Whitecross, that selection, among other things, would almost surely pass to the Suns for O'Meara. The Suns could then offer it to the Lions for Hanley.
However, the Lions and Suns are confident that with each club's swag of top-30 draft picks – the Lions have No.3, No.16, No.19, No.21, the Suns No.4, No.8, No.22, No.24, No.26 and No.30 – that they can agree to a suitable swap that sends Hanley to Metricon Stadium.
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Certainly not Close, Jaden or Claye more likely.
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Id accept 21 for them 2 (hartung and whitecross). Both would add something.
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Bringing in Hartung and Whitecross would probably mean we wants to have 2 First round picks plus later picks for Academy kids.
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The comment about possibly doing a separate deal with GC on Hanley would suggest we wouldn't get pick 8 or 10 for him.
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Who else could we target from the Hawks with Whitecross apparently staying at Hawthorn is Langford a possibility?
Apparently O'Rouke's name has been mentioned:
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-tr...nd-hawthorn-in-stalemate-20161016-gs3eom.html
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O'Rourke? It gets worse.
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Says a lot about O'Rouke when he's going to be at his 3rd club in less than 3 years
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Would O'Rourke even come? He left GWS for home remember. Not sure he's any good anyway.
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I've seen sweet FA of O'Rourke since he was drafted, but one factor with him not getting a lot of games would the depth of midfielders of GWS and Hawthorn
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He's not. Not on demonstrated performance anyway. Whitecross has to be the main target with the other two just thrown up as a 'get one of these guys to come North too' for extra value to get the deal over the line. Considering what Fagan must have been privy to he surely sees potential in them to improve our team to some degree.
I followed his ressie reports a bit. Most the time he struggled and influence VFL games. He is getting to last chance stage in his career
I wouldn't be against picking O'Rourke up but not packaged for pick 21 but for a seperate deal. Like a 4th or 5th rounder.
No big story. Mitchell was/is a great player, but probably not a great leader. Despite his talent, he's apparently not well liked around the club.
Poor form at both AFL and VFL level. He'd be a pass for mine.
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How did J O'R get drafted at #2? Talented but lazy?
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GWS had a lot of picks and went against the grain a bit with their aims. I think they had a blueprint for what they wanted and were able to reach a little to try and make that come to fruition. From memory O'Rourke only firmed as a 2 towards the tail end of the year when it became apparent GWS were going to take him and up to that point a lot of people had questioned him that high.
