TyHawk
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Lol 2013 and 2014.. Weep.
after the Hawks premiership
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TyHawk
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Hey man, does it bother you that much that the Hawks have gone B2B?? Man, the gap opened up really quickly from the second half of the Rd 22 game to the finals didn't it? I mean look at the crap 'panic' trading period you guys just went through...it's all to do with Hawthorn and how to bring them undone. It hurts I know but it will pass once you win B2B! Go Hawks.
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Hey man, na not really, well not as much as what my posts seem to stir you up at least.
It's not like we're St Kilda who have been starved of premiership success. Only 3 years to the day since our last one.
Now it's time to climb the mountain again. Only issue, has Hawthorn already began their descent?
Because I truly think so
Hey man, na not really, well not as much as what my posts seem to stir you up at least.
It's not like we're St Kilda who have been starved of premiership success. Only 3 years to the day since our last one.
Now it's time to climb the mountain again. Only issue, has Hawthorn already began their descent?
Because I truly think so
A bit like your view of the whole 'mission accomplished' saga
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A bit like your view of the whole 'mission accomplished' saga
you all over your mate Tyhawk like a cheap suit aren't you Hawkk? He pops in with something and your right in there minutes later adding to the discussion.
It's a very gentle and good rapport you two have going on.
And you guys lost one of the best players in the league and still went on to win it. IMO it's way too early to call team of the century. All depends what happens next year. A Hawks win has Hawthorn sitting as the best team of this era.
Hard to say. I think the Hawks were devastating this year , proved to be so far above the other gun sides.
But over the journey Geelong have been a huge power since 2007, Sydney have 2 flags and Brisbane played in 4 won 3,
Hawks have 4 appearances and 3 wins.
I think maybe Brisbane were in top power for 4 plus years then dropped off. Hawthorn have been about for the last three years but were out of it a bit from 2009 to 2011 then lost 2012, so they bounced around inconsistant until 2012.
So for me the power house with dangerous potential in this 21st century is the Cats. I put Hawks second , Lions third and Sydney fourth.
What happens in the next three years will tell .
I'm biased of course but I think my club will become invincible for a while. Can't last forever, but it is so hard to get to the level the Hawks have set for themselves , its like its in their blood now, they replace soldiers , and the replacements know the game plan to a fault.
And all have fire in their belly to win a flag . Look at Whitecross, his love for the Hawks builds his need for a flag. There's a few like that.
Very hard to get to that standard and hold it with more than 22 first picks, the mind set is win , they have more ready to step in and do the same.
Its like the Romans at their peak. Its discipline and steel belief in your selves. These kids all seem to have it.
How do others get to that level, they just keep trying thats how , and they will and some other power house will evolve. Bloody fantastic hey?
Clarkson , perhaps the greatest coach , ever?
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yeh because that didn't happen to Geelong.
Oh yea, my bad, actually forgot about that. In that case I retract my statement!
I think the key difference though is this.
Everyone thought that Geelong would cope without Ablett in the middle (which they did). However, for about 7 years people were saying Hawthorn basically had no hope without Buddy. Hawthorn were too one dimensional, Hawthorn didn't have any other avenue to goal, Hawthorn relied too much on Buddy to kick bags for them, and Roughead would be exposed without Buddy, etc etc.
They were all wrong.
Dead wrong.
Who did Geelong and Brisbane go through?
Brisbane, beat an excellent Essendon side who were just about to fall off the proverbial cliff, and then Collingwood
Port were very good but prone to self imploding. Geelong. 2007 is one of the most single sided seasons in history. They could not beat the Hawks the following year and then it was St Kilda. Pies were good but maybe not as good as everyone thought.
So the Hawks have three premierships, and I would challenge anyone to argue that Geelong and Sydney (this year) were not in the top 3 of all beaten GF teams since 2000.
If we are basing this on who the grand final opponents were then the Hawks win. Saying the Hawks have taken advantage of transitional periods is complete crap.
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We made finals in 07,08,10,11,12,13,14
If it looks, smells and feels like one, then it probably is.
Yet more Hawk trolling and baiting going on in this thread I see. The envy is simply pouring out of people on here, let me drink a little more of it in. It's delicious!
TyHawk
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It seems we have..remember the numbers 36 & 63! Great symmetry if you look at them hard enough. Geelong are irrelevant to Hawthorn, stop trying to be a rival so hard we don't like you.Hey man, na not really, well not as much as what my posts seem to stir you up at least.
It's not like we're St Kilda who have been starved of premiership success. Only 3 years to the day since our last one.
Now it's time to climb the mountain again. Only issue, has Hawthorn already began their descent?
Because I truly think so
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Who did Geelong and Brisbane go through?
Brisbane, beat an excellent Essendon side who were just about to fall off the proverbial cliff, and then Collingwood
Geelong. 2007 is one of the most single sided seasons in history. They could not beat the Hawks the following year and then it was St Kilda. Pies were good but maybe not as good as everyone thought.
So the Hawks have three premierships, and I would challenge anyone to argue that Geelong and Sydney (this year) were not in the top 3 of all beaten GF teams since 2000.
If we are basing this on who the grand final opponents were then the Hawks win. Saying the Hawks have taken advantage of transitional periods is complete crap.
When you compare the opponents to each premiership team:
Brisbane 2001 - Essendon (1 premiership)
Brisbane 2002 - Collingwood (0 premierships)
Brisbane 2003 - Collingwood (0 premierships)
Geelong 2007 - Port Adealaide (1 premiership - but very different team)
Geelong 2009 - St Kilda (0 premierships)
Geelong 2011 - Collingwood (1 premierhsip)
Hawthorn 2008 - Geelong (3 premierships)
Hawthorn 2013 - Fremantle (0 premierships)
Hawthorn 2014 - Sydney (1 premiership)
You could make an argument that Hawthorn had arguably the toughest opponents. Brisbane beat a very tough Essendon side, which ultimately under performed. Geelong beat a very good Collingwood, but they were really only contending for 2 years. Hawthorn beat a champion Geelong team, and a red hot favourite in Sydney.
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You must hold you 2012 gf in high esteem then.
In your opinion what was a the more triumphant victory, SYDNEYS 2012 or HAWTHORNS 2014?
Travelling interstate to beat a team on their own turf is a huge achievement.
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So Sydney ^^^^^
You cant be serious though. You and me both know the truth but it wont fit your narrative so you wont say it.
You cant be serious though. You and me both know the truth but it wont fit your narrative so you wont say it.
What are you even asking?
Especially when an undeserved 8 day break is involved
It's simple. Of Geelong, Brisbane and Hawthorn, only Hawthorn play for premierships at their home ground.
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