Coach Alastair Clarkson IV - HFC Racism Investigation Discussion

[Liam Boy]

summary: clarkson and fagan to meet with ex-players in concilitation scheduled for march 26th and 27th

 

[The Warlord]

Finally.

This is what should have happened in private from the get go.

Instead Hawthorn incompetence and Rusty Jackson's white saviour complex stuffed things up horrifically

 

[The Warlord]

summary: clarkson and fagan to meet with ex-players in concilitation scheduled for march 26th and 27th

I've said for a while this could well end with a joint presser by Clarko and Cyril where they acknowledge hurt, misunderstanding, cultural difference, that things should have and would be done differently now.

And that therd was racism but that it wasn't coming from Clarko.

 

[gerry101101]

summary: clarkson and fagan to meet with ex-players in concilitation scheduled for march 26th and 27th

So right before the Good Friday game. Whatever happens, we’re going to be big news that week.

 

[Whereitallbegan]

Another North sacrifice heading our way, the timing is impeccable!!!!
Just when I thought we were through all this s**t….will end up in court, mark my words!

 

[Sillygit]

Another North sacrifice heading our way, the timing is impeccable!!!!
Just when I thought we were through all this s**t….will end up in court, mark my words!

I dunno, dont think they would go to mediation of they were just gunna sue each other.

 

[LB2Snake]

Think it’ll drag on and on. There’s financials on the line. It won’t be a sorry session and everyone moves on. Whatever AC admits too, or has a different version of events of, will be the direction the court case heads. I hope I am wrong.

 

[The Warlord]

I dunno, dont think they would go to mediation of they were just gunna sue each other.

Yeah get the feeling a bit of trust has been re-established between people

 

[The Warlord]

Think it’ll drag on and on. There’s financials on the line. It won’t be a sorry session and everyone moves on. Whatever AC admits too, or has a different version of events of, will be the direction the court case heads. I hope I am wrong.

This and the money side totally separate no.

Like folks are getting paid out by Hawthorn/AFL regardless

 

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[andana]

Who would be conciliator?

 

[krakouers]

Who would be conciliator?

There’s a man who’s had experience with these

 

[LB2Snake]

This and the money side totally separate no.

Like folks are getting paid out by Hawthorn/AFL regardless

Hope you are right The Warlord

 

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[Roostorm]

Well l hope all parties are able to air grievances and that there is progress ….and that the journos that went for it are held to account.. We wait and see.

 

[Devington]

Interesting Robbo said and/or lawyers. Is it only Fagan with a question mark over his attendance?

Also had a chuckle when he said it was confidential because they've all signed stat decs, and then after a brief pause starts his next thought with a "but".

 

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[giantroo]

www.heraldsun.com.au

Hawks to be urged to apologise at mediation over racism allegations​

Mark Robinson, Michael Warner

4 - 5 minutes

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Hawthorn will be urged to apologise and acknowledge that racism took place at the club as part of official mediation starting on Tuesday.
But the prospect of successful conciliation is considered dim, according to one source, because accused former Hawthorn officials Alastair Clarkson, Chris Fagan and Jason Burt have strongly rejected claims of racism made by First Nations players and their partners.
All parties are required to attend the mediation – or send a legal representative – meaning coaches Clarkson and Fagan could come face-to-face with some of their accusers for the first time since the saga erupted.
The Indigenous families at the centre of the scandal will push for Hawthorn to adopt the fabric of Collingwood’s “Do Better” report, and offer a formal apology to all of its past players confronted by racism at the club.
The establishment of a formal “truth-telling” framework, put in place by the Magpies, is also being sought.
Compensation to all affected parties, including the three Hawthorn officials and the Indigenous families, will be central to the negotiations in Melbourne on Tuesday and Wednesday.
The Hawks set aside $1.5 million in their annual report late last year, money earmarked for legal expenses and potential compensation payments.
However, a sticking point over whether a settlement is reached this week could involve the size of the payments and the wording of public statements and proposed apologies.
A Hawthorn spokesman confirmed a club delegation, led by president Andy Gowers and chief executive Ashley Klein, would be present at the talks at an undisclosed location.
“We continue to work in good faith through the Australian Human Rights Commission process and as we have said previously we want to see the matter resolved fairly for everyone involved,” the club said.
But Hawks great Don Scott believes “heads should roll” from the Gowers board if compensation payments are made.
“They’ve set aside $1.5 million and I reckon it’s already cost them that again in legal representation – so somebody has got to fall on their sword,” Scott said.
“Why have they got to pay this money out when the AFL said they have got no case to answer? It’s not their money – it is club and members’ money, but it’s easy to give away when it’s not yours. The Hawthorn members have been hoodwinked.”
Should the talks fail, the racism dispute could be headed to a Federal Court hearing.

North Melbourne’s head of football Todd Viney confirmed on Saturday that Clarkson would be absent from the club this week to attend the talks.
“For a footy preparation point of view, it’s not ideal, but we’ve got a really good staff of people to make sure we can get prepared as best we can,’’ Viney told the ABC.

“The bigger picture is that hopefully it can be put to bed and they can sit down altogether and get a resolution to the long-running saga.’’

Phil Egan, the author of Hawthorn’s Binmada report that triggered the crisis, will not attend the mediation sessions.

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The scandal has caused great division at Hawthorn and shattered numerous relationships within the AFL industry.

Gowers was the club’s football director at the time of some of the alleged racial incidents.

Former Hawthorn president Jeff Kennett said last year the fact the Hawthorn board was considering making compensation payments was “absolutely absurd”.

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[andana]

North Melbourne’s head of football Todd Viney confirmed on Saturday that Clarkson would be absent from the club this week to attend the talks.

Couldn't have done this preseason or during bye week.

 

[leighlee13]

Couldn't have done this preseason or during bye week.

Of course not. Do it right before our marqee game for the year in the hope we stuff it up so they have a reason to take it off us.

 

[Devington]

Compensation to all affected parties, including the three Hawthorn officials and the Indigenous families, will be central to the negotiations in Melbourne on Tuesday and Wednesday.
However, a sticking point over whether a settlement is reached this week could involve the size of the payments and the wording of public statements and proposed apologies.
A Hawthorn spokesman confirmed a club delegation, led by president Andy Gowers and chief executive Ashley Klein, would be present at the talks at an undisclosed location.

As sad as it would be, I really hope Robbo's source is someone at Hawthorne poisoning the well. Robbo not even pretending money isn't a central factor.

 

[ChairmanZia]

Finally.

This is what should have happened in private from the get go.

Instead Hawthorn incompetence and Rusty Jackson's white saviour complex stuffed things up horrifically

This entire saga i feel was a setup by kennet against clarkson as his parting shot. This was a getback against clarkson for 'abandonning' hawthorn and also poaching of hawks staffers.