Cronulla Sharks players accept doping bans

[carnthedons]

new management bro

Same legislation though

 

[ziad]

As an NRL fan I am disgusted at this outcome. Pathetic by ASADA. Can't really strip the Sharks of anything as they are woeful and sitting bottom.

Paul Gallen - An average player then suddenly in his late 20s becomes one of the best in the game, how did he manage this?

now we and the world knows

 

[andrewb]

ASADA has what they always wanted - an admission of doping guilt by a player.

Now that the players have admitted doping they can go after their primary target in this saga, which has always been Dank.

It will be really interesting to see whether these admissions, made under duress and not in line with normal procedure, are enough to pin guilt to their target.

 

[Madblue]

Cool story. I for one don't give a s**t about what's easy for the entire football community to move on. Like these Cronulla players taking token bans to help people move on. Seems stupid to me.

How about Juddy's magic blue powder?


What you mean he trusted an employee who was in a different reporting line to do the right thing? A guy who the AFL themselves employed?

Wow if you think thats all Hird did then you need to do alot of catch up reading on the case or get your head out of the sand

 

[TBoyleSuperstar]

What you mean he trusted an employee who was in a different reporting line to do the right thing? A guy who the AFL themselves employed?

You don't think, after playing for as long as he did, that he shouldn't have questioned why players were being taken off site to have injections, why his own doctor and long time essendon doctor wasn't in agreeance with it, why Mark Thompson wasn't supportive of it, why they weren't keeping the appropriate records etc etc??

Sorry mate, but Hird needs to take responsibility as he was the one that would have been signing off on the regime they put in place.

 

[carnthedons]

Wow if you think thats all Hird did then you need to do alot of catch up reading on the case or get your head out of the sand

If you think everything that is reported in the media is fact and we've seen anywhere near the complete picture, you're the one with your head in the sand.

 

[bacon buster]

Cronulla only have 4 players effected, and two of those are barely in the starting line-up apparently. There was no incentive for Cronulla to fight when 13 of the 17 are retired or elsewhere. From Cronulla's perspective the whole case is basically Paul Gallen and Wade Graham.

Very different at Essendon were 20 currently listed players are involved according to Paul Little.

other than to clear their players who have professed their innocence?
seems like reason enough to fight to me. i'm sure if they were a well to do club, they probably would have. not only would a legal fight cost them, but sponsor backlash would as well

essendon don't seem to have that problem

 

[I Rock]

Same legislation though

Yes but you are assuming Ing's knew what he was doing whilst at the helm.

 

[SunshineBoy]

If the Queenslanders try to overturn the State of Origin, its civil war time.

I think it should after all he was supposed to be banned. and all awards should be stripped.

 

[chelseacarlton]

Process schmocess.

 

[SunshineBoy]

lol, indeed. They could have stripped him of his achievement as leader of the Blues. It is one of the guarantees he sought in taking the bans. That that would not happen.

Talk about pandering to drug cheats.

We are Australians we do not cheat our mum gives it to us by mistake.

 

[fabulousphil]

Perhaps we will get to a point where Essendons players will be cleared but Cronullas are seen as guilty.

But possibly both sets of players are in the exact same boat - thinking they are all innocent of taking banned drugs.

 

[Armchair Critic]

Yes but you are assuming Ing's knew what he was doing whilst at the helm.

He didn't know the definition of Trafficking when Earl was given his infraction notice

 

[carnthedons]

Yes but you are assuming Ing's knew what he was doing whilst at the helm.

I'm not assuming any of the current or former ASADA CEO's understand what they should be doing. Evidence suggests they don't recall what they should/have done?

 

[andrewb]

Cronulla players admit to doping with GH derivatives = 12 month backdated ban with 3 weeks to be served in season. No financial impacts.
Saad drinks energy drink with banned stimulant = 18 month ban which ASADA appealed and tried to change to 24 months.
Murkier and ******* murkier.

 

[Taylor]

I thought systematic doping resulted in the club being banned, now that they have confessions it seals that fate I would have thought?

 

[Big Fozza]

A pity Saad didn't get the same leniency, ASADA even tried to appeal his 18 month ban to get it extended to 2 years, all for taking a protein shake containing a substance that was only banned on game day.

The old safety in numbers theory has never been more true, absolute joke of a system.

yep. penalties seem very disproportionate

 

[Albert Ross]

I thought systematic doping resulted in the club being banned, now that they have confessions it seals that fate I would have thought?

The WADA code calls for a club to be punished. Most sports, including the AFL, have reserved the right to determine the appropriate punishment. There is an obligation to punish the club, but nothing about what that penalty should be. I think it is 99% certain that the punishments already dished out will be seen as sufficient.

 

[I Rock]

yep. penalties seem very disproportionate

Unfortunately for Saad, that is what happens when you have a positive test and also can't contest a no fault penalty.

 

[fabulousphil]

Cronulla players admit to doping with GH derivatives = 12 month backdated ban with 3 weeks to be served in season. No financial impacts.
Saad drinks energy drink with banned stimulant = 18 month ban which ASADA appealed and tried to change to 24 months.
Murkier and ******* murkier.

It is an absolute farce.

A absolute disgrace when a genuine comparison is made.

 

[Tiger71]

As an NRL fan I am disgusted at this outcome. Pathetic by ASADA. Can't really strip the Sharks of anything as they are woeful and sitting bottom.

Paul Gallen - An average player then suddenly in his late 20s becomes one of the best in the game, how did he manage this?

Can swap Paul Gallens name with Jobe Watson. Jobe was a good average player, one paced with limited skills. from 2010-11 his form spiked and he found new pace and a increase in endurance....wonder how ?

 

[The Scales]

new management bro

New legislation Ings is not aware of? Highly unlikely.

 

[katana]

I wouldn't care if Essendon got the same.

So long as they had to admit to drug use in order to get the deal.

what do you mean admit to "drug use"?

 

[andrewb]

Can swap Paul Gallens name with Jobe Watson. Jobe was a good average player, one paced with limited skills. from 2010-11 his form spiked and he found new pace and a increase in endurance....wonder how ?

Jobe has been smashing the roids for years dude. Everyone knows that.

 

[kfc1]

Can swap Paul Gallens name with Jobe Watson. Jobe was a good average player, one paced with limited skills. from 2010-11 his form spiked and he found new pace and a increase in endurance....wonder how ?

He started 18 months before the other EFC players?