Discussion on Pick #58 - Harry Dear

[spenze]

I guess Hawthorn didn't F/S him due to them having an abundance of tall forwards. Hope it comes back to bite them in the arse like their decision to trade out Kennedy

 

[Sanders]

I guess Hawthorn didn't F/S him due to them having an abundance of tall forwards. Hope it comes back to bite them in the arse like their decision to trade out Kennedy

Pittonet

 

[Elder van Berlo]

It has been said (although not by anyone official) that the reason the Hawks overlooked him was his shoulder issues. If there's an AFL footballer in there who is being held back by his body, I'm happy to take the risk. Better than picking some mediocre plodder.

 

[spenze]

Pittonet

Ruckman

 

[Mismatched]

Hawthorn, pfffft. What have they done well lately. Seriously though, the 197cm type player seem to have a low success rate. Not a knock on the lad as I wouldn't have a clue. Good luck to him though, hope he makes it and has a long and premiership filled career with us.

I think the success rate of those 196-199cm KPPs is improving with reserves sides, plus I think they're actually getting played in key positions in jnr grades a lot more often(less so in SA by the sounds).

In the past though we'd draft a 196-199cm kid as a forward/defender, only for him to be sent to a SANFL club for development, where they'd play him predominantly in the ruck.

Now we can draft someone like Dear and play him purely as a forward right from the get go.

 

[Carmo]

if he is from sandringham dragons why does the crows photo of him show him in a SA state gurnsey, or is the photo wrong?

 

[MyLittleSloaney]

if he is from sandringham dragons why does the crows photo of him show him in a SA state gurnsey, or is the photo wrong?

Yeh they've got a picture of Wigg as the thumbnail on his video I think

 

[I Lost My Keays]

I have a good feeling about Harry Dear

 

[Red mist]

I have a good feeling about all our draftees. There no need to feel otherwise until later on if they are not rising as expected etc.
One thing I just thought of that would be ironic. Hawthorn spent five or six years developing Lowden, then traded him to us. What if in five or six years time Hawthorn come a calling for Harry and want the same.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I guess Hawthorn didn't F/S him due to them having an abundance of tall forwards. Hope it comes back to bite them in the arse like their decision to trade out Kennedy

OR was their intention to father/son Dear in the Rookie draft?

Essendon have with Jake Long ? .......do you have to nominate rookie father/sons before or after the National draft?

 

[spenze]

OR was their intention to father/son Dear in the Rookie draft?

Essendon have with Jake Long ? .......do you have to nominate rookie father/sons before or after the National draft?

Jeez, I am the wrong person to ask that to but I don't think you can F/S them in the rookie draft. To the point of them rookie listing him....well it makes sense, gives you three years to get them up to speed if you wish

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Jeez, I am the wrong person to ask that to but I don't think you can F/S them in the rookie draft. To the point of them rookie listing him....well it makes sense, gives you three years to get them up to speed if you wish

FATHER-SON – ROOKIE PRE-SELECTION

The Father-Son Rule previously applied to players selected at the National Draft. Under the rule, other AFL clubs can bid for eligible players who have been nominated under the Father-Son Rule by an eligible club. The nominating club can select the eligible player by forfeiting its next available pick in the draft if a bid has been made by another club. If there is no bid from another club, the nominating club forfeits its last pick in the National Draft.

A club can pre-select an eligible player as a Category A rookie between the Pre-Season and Rookie Drafts (with the player’s consent) provided the player had nominated for but was not selected by another club at either the National or Pre-Season Drafts. In that case, the relevant club would forfeit its last available selection in the Rookie Draft to take the player.

 

[Sanders]

So no, you can't just f/s a rookie

Only if they have gone through the draft untouched, then you can call dibs

 

[6BTS]

I don't mean to be harsh about the guy, but I'm not seeing him becoming an actual viable ruck option on a Crows team. I will be first to apologize if he proves me wrong.

 

[Tex200]

I don't mean to be harsh about the guy, but I'm not seeing him becoming an actual viable ruck option on a Crows team. I will be first to apologize if he proves me wrong.

He's not a ruckman

 

[6BTS]

He's not a ruckman

Sorry, forward/ruckman, they didn't pick him to challenge Taylor Walker.

 

[Tex200]

Sorry, forward/ruckman, they didn't pick him to challenge Taylor Walker.

Neither did they pick him to challenge sauce.

 

[Red mist]

Neither did they pick him to challenge sauce.

Ease up. His attributes are otherwise to be ascertained regarding lets put the big f##ker there.

 

[1970crow]

I think the success rate of those 196-199cm KPPs is improving with reserves sides, plus I think they're actually getting played in key positions in jnr grades a lot more often(less so in SA by the sounds).

In the past though we'd draft a 196-199cm kid as a forward/defender, only for him to be sent to a SANFL club for development, where they'd play him predominantly in the ruck.

Now we can draft someone like Dear and play him purely as a forward right from the get go.

Not sure. I'd rather everyone go back hard. Although, it looks like we are heading that way.

 

[Tex200]

Ease up. His attributes are otherwise to be ascertained regarding lets put the big f##ker there.

Hang on ... someone posts he's not going to make it as a ruckman when he's not a ruckman at all.

Maybe some ruck relief here and there, but he doesn't have to make it as a ruck man

 

[6BTS]

Neither did they pick him to challenge sauce.

*sigh. Okay, to clear up for everyone out there that needs everything to be specifically addressed, I was referring to the ruck side of his game, he was clearly picked to be a Key Forward AND a backup Ruckman for the Leading Ruckman on game day, that's what they expect him to become and will be developing him as such. In my original quote, I foolishly didn't go into the specifics needed by some and I'm now using this chance to clarify that I was simply referring to the Ruck side of his game.

 

[Red mist]

Hang on ... someone posts he's not going to make it as a ruckman when he's not a ruckman at all.

Maybe some ruck relief here and there, but he doesn't have to make it as a ruck man

I've over reacted Peter and I apologise.
I do however hold hope in his pedigree. X factor second ruck flying around the ground is nice to think of . Maybe he is JJ insurance.

 

[I Lost My Keays]

After pick 40 it's pretty much a hit and miss with players.

 

[Houston]

Phil wants players with hardness and he sees that in Dear. Doubt he sees it in Jenkins.

 

[Tex200]

Phil wants players with hardness and he sees that in Dear. Doubt he sees it in Jenkins.

I think we have a few years ahead of us before we see Dear kicking 40 goals in an AFL season