Why?
Formula 1 in 2015
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ManWithNoName
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Well this year for example Renault and Ferrari haven't been able to do anything to their engines to try and catch Mercedes. So it's been a bit predictable in that sense.
Renault could gain some ground, I reckon. Ferrari don't look like they're going anywhere. What if those changes meant MB increased their advantage?
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He hasn't denied it.
The main problem is that the last few years RB's advantage was aero, which all the teams (including them) could develop over the year. At least there was a theoretical possibility of the other teams catching up.
This year the area Mercedes have their advantage in is frozen. Pretty well locking it in for the season.
ManWithNoName
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Alonso contacted Mercedes and Williams about driving for them next year. Both said no as their drivers have contracts.
Williams are dumb.
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I was going to say they might not have the budget for it but I can't think of a better way for them to spend $20 million or whatever he'd want.
Alonso had the experience and toughness to win in a current model Williams.
I don't think it's a stretch to say that Alonso and Bottas would have seen Williams challenging for 2nd in the Constructors this year.
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Alonso brings in a few $$$ for Williams too.
Williams and their strange relationship with drivers.... between 1986 and 1997, they won 7 Constructors and 5 Drivers titles but never saw a number 1 on any of those red/blue/yellow/white cars.
Don't understand why Massa still has a F1 career. End of 2002 should have been the last we heard of him. He must thank his lucky stars every day his manager is Jean Todt's son.
ManWithNoName
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He was a few corners away from being a World Champion.
That was a long time ago in a season full of FIA interference that favoured Massa and was against his rival Hamilton. Still can't believe some of those decisions that year. Hamilton getting penalised for going off the first corner of one race and Bourdais getting a drive through when Massa turned into him. Irvine was almost a champion too but no one cared after 12 months.
Edit: I'll also add in 2002 Massa could barely keep the car in a straight line and was utterly woeful in the rain. When he did return he was shaded by Fischella in 2004 and almost got beaten in points by a washed-up Jacques Villeneuve in 2005, yet somehow he did enough to earn a seat in one of the most prized teams in motorsport... managed by the father of Massa's agent.
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Team DJ
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Yes, in a very unWilliams like red car. From what I recall it was the most indistinguishable '1's I have ever seen on an F1 car.
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with the Meccachrome (probably the wrong spelling) engine
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No Lewis *insert x files music*
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Old news (a week ago) but, Lotus have confirmed they are switching to Mercedes power for 2015. With McLaren moving to Honda there was a spare team for Mercedes to support and Lotus have got the gig.
This leaves only three Renault powered teams (Red Bull, Toro Ross, and Caterham) for 2015, and that may be down to two if Caterham don't make it to next year.
This leaves only three Renault powered teams (Red Bull, Toro Ross, and Caterham) for 2015, and that may be down to two if Caterham don't make it to next year.
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I thought toro rosso had Ferrari engines???????
They swapped to Renault this year in line with their sister team. Ferrari were never comfortable with supplying engines to the junior team of their rivals.
ManWithNoName
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Just spitballing. Imagine these lineups next year:
Mercedes: Hamilton/Rosberg
RBR: Ricciardo/Kvyat
Ferrari: Vettel/Raikkonen
McLaren: Alonso/Button
Lotus: Magnussen/Grosjean
There's 5 top teams with 8 top line drivers and 2 potential (Magnussen, Kvyat). Would love to see it.
Mercedes: Hamilton/Rosberg
RBR: Ricciardo/Kvyat
Ferrari: Vettel/Raikkonen
McLaren: Alonso/Button
Lotus: Magnussen/Grosjean
There's 5 top teams with 8 top line drivers and 2 potential (Magnussen, Kvyat). Would love to see it.
Sven
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The big question is where does Alonso go. I've read that Alonso could go to Williams as a stop gap whilst McLaren develop their car in 2015 and I'd love to see that
because Alonso/Bottas could challenge Mercedes for the title IMO. The question then becomes which driver is tied to which engine. Would Magnussen stay with McLaren or would Mercedes want Magnussen in a Mercedes engine car.How about?
Mercedes: Hamilton/Rosberg
Williams: Alonso/Bottas
Lotus: Massa/Grosjean
RBR: Ricciardo/Kvyat
Ferrari: Vettel/Raikkonen
McLaren: Magnussen/Button
