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The rule has definitely had an impact. I think the umpire now gives the other players free reign on Selwood to over compensate
Review Geelong Cats defeat GWS Giants by 27 points
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The rule has definitely had an impact. I think the umpire now gives the other players free reign on Selwood to over compensate
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In general I don't think it is, some games are close but when it's 4 goals to 2 at half time it's not a glowing endorsement of the game for me
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There used to a joke about a turd being pushed around in a bathtub,can't repeat it here. I doubt it would be politicly correct these days.
I also crossed Stephen Reynoldson off my list of maybe's. But only just.i think you are forgetting about clint bizzell.
Yeah the Pres did OK though. Just ask him.Not forgetting "Helicopter Peake" or "President Lindner"
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Lindner for sure, outrageous talent.Not forgetting "Helicopter Peake" or "President Lindner"
Also Paul Lynch was a real talent, but we were deprived from seeing his best on a consistent basis. Would be the equal to Menzel.
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Very happy to see us get the points and keep our season alive.
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We just kept getting teased with Lynch from memory...he'd get back, show a bit and pop would go a hammy again
Apparently Hodge today in one of the footy TV shows pointed out during the discussion about whether we need to off load our older players that while we hab 8 over 30 Hawthorn has 7. Hodge asked if they wanted to get rid of him. Funny how winning turns the blind eye and how we are once again reminded of lazy commentators eg Watson in yesterdays game going on about older players and then having to acknowledge at the end that they played ok..
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why do you read that poo? It would be always dribble, wouldn't it?I did read the usual dribble from the Hawfies board.
Quarter time... "Good to see Selwoods back, frees GWS 2 Selwood 3"
This whole competition is obsessed with Joel
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come to think of it, allrighty- that looks a bit like John Elliott
Is this either of them?
Yeah Lynch was a fabulous talent but could not get his back right. Real shame.
Back on topic? What the?
Was it Stephen Michaels back in the day? The new Polly Farmer.
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PA stats.
Surprised to see Mots with only 10?
Surprised to see Mots with only 10?
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We never had him at Geelong though.
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After watching the replay I was reasonably impressed, obviously our goal kicking was poor but clearly the wind at the ground was hard to read. I thought our pressure particularly in the first half was close to our best all year in terms of turning the ball over in our front half and keeping it there, and our midfield clearance work was better. I still think our lack of a specialist ruck is going to cost us down the stretch, particularly in the Hawthorn and Adelaide games but otherwise we are playing better and we will need to get on a good form run if we are to make the 8.
I thought both Walker and Kersten were quiet but not as bad as made out on here. Clearly Walker is a part time ruck only out there because of our injury mgt issues so we shouldn't judge him on that we should judge him on his forward work. I thought he contested well and while he didnt mark as much as in previous weeks structurally he is very useful to us by bringing the ball to ground. Kersten was able to put on some good tackle pressure but otherwise was fairly unsighted, I don't think the structure suits him as we seem from my viewing to be playing a more long kicking styl than we were at the start of the year, kicking long from d50 to an outlet tall up the line and then using handball through the middle and deep kicks to Hawkins. This means Kersten as a lead up player who works between the arcs tends to get bypassed a lot and suits a pack marking player like Walker better. The reality is we have no other 2nd ruck option until either Clark or Vardy are fit for the afl side (they won't pick Simpson again) so Walker can't be dropped for a few weeks, so clearly if one of them is it will be Kersten. Kersten may well go out as soon as they determine Menzel to be fit enough to come back into the afl side.
I thought both Walker and Kersten were quiet but not as bad as made out on here. Clearly Walker is a part time ruck only out there because of our injury mgt issues so we shouldn't judge him on that we should judge him on his forward work. I thought he contested well and while he didnt mark as much as in previous weeks structurally he is very useful to us by bringing the ball to ground. Kersten was able to put on some good tackle pressure but otherwise was fairly unsighted, I don't think the structure suits him as we seem from my viewing to be playing a more long kicking styl than we were at the start of the year, kicking long from d50 to an outlet tall up the line and then using handball through the middle and deep kicks to Hawkins. This means Kersten as a lead up player who works between the arcs tends to get bypassed a lot and suits a pack marking player like Walker better. The reality is we have no other 2nd ruck option until either Clark or Vardy are fit for the afl side (they won't pick Simpson again) so Walker can't be dropped for a few weeks, so clearly if one of them is it will be Kersten. Kersten may well go out as soon as they determine Menzel to be fit enough to come back into the afl side.
Not much to add to Daniel McL's fantastic roundup (#67), other than:
Reppie (#102) and Biscuit (#189) totally on the money about the wind. We sat on the east side of the ground facing into it and it fluctuated in direction and in strength. A lot of the game was played on the west side of the ground (why is it never on the side I'm sitting???) and so shots on goal from that side were all but impossible to land, the wind bending the ball away, regardless of which end the player was kicking to.
Talks of a two or three goal breeze are just silly. Hawkins kicked one that was freakish, which has been mentioned, and more generally the Cats seemed to figure out that unless they punched it low they had no hope of getting it to stay on line.
It seemed like the Giants lost a bit of heart when they realised, at the start of the fourth, that it was going to be all but impossible to kick even the four or so goals they needed to catch up and win, as the ball just would not go through. Ball also just dropped like a stone sometimes - again, our backs seemed to adjust better than GWS. Although at one point a Cat took a shot into the wind and it barely went 45 metres, a Giant marked and pinged it back and it went nearly 60.
Our defenders were good as a unit - Harry was all over Jeremy Cameron - although it was interesting to see that Jimmy and James Kelly both played quite a bit of time in defence, given Bews had been dropped. Clearly that is not a long term plan! Motlop's run and carry, along with that of Murdoch, were especially important because moving the ball by foot was so hard.
But the defence was good across the ground, especially in the midfield. There was much less of that sense of the Cats being half a tackle behind - they seemed more composed than the Giants, and their run and spread was terrific.
Gregson looked completely exhausted in the first half of the final quarter, but somehow managed to pick himself up and make some great long runs across the field very late in the game. kolo looked composed and always seemed to be in the right place, there did not seem to be any of that pointing and yelling that you might expect with a young player. (And one weird effect of the wind was that you could hear what the players were saying when they were on the east side of the ground.) But we wondered whether Bews was dropped so that players like Kelly and Bartel could give Kolo more structure and direction?
Not sure why, but after the game, Mackie ran a long way up to shake hands with the Giants sub, who seemed to have been injured.
Oh: and it was so cold it felt like it was about to snow. i don't know how Daniel McL managed a hot chocoloate and a pie, over our side of the ground they seemed to have decided that food rationing and thirty-metre queues were the go. Next time I'm taking a thermos and a pizza oven to keep warm.
Reppie (#102) and Biscuit (#189) totally on the money about the wind. We sat on the east side of the ground facing into it and it fluctuated in direction and in strength. A lot of the game was played on the west side of the ground (why is it never on the side I'm sitting???) and so shots on goal from that side were all but impossible to land, the wind bending the ball away, regardless of which end the player was kicking to.
Talks of a two or three goal breeze are just silly. Hawkins kicked one that was freakish, which has been mentioned, and more generally the Cats seemed to figure out that unless they punched it low they had no hope of getting it to stay on line.
It seemed like the Giants lost a bit of heart when they realised, at the start of the fourth, that it was going to be all but impossible to kick even the four or so goals they needed to catch up and win, as the ball just would not go through. Ball also just dropped like a stone sometimes - again, our backs seemed to adjust better than GWS. Although at one point a Cat took a shot into the wind and it barely went 45 metres, a Giant marked and pinged it back and it went nearly 60.
Our defenders were good as a unit - Harry was all over Jeremy Cameron - although it was interesting to see that Jimmy and James Kelly both played quite a bit of time in defence, given Bews had been dropped. Clearly that is not a long term plan! Motlop's run and carry, along with that of Murdoch, were especially important because moving the ball by foot was so hard.
But the defence was good across the ground, especially in the midfield. There was much less of that sense of the Cats being half a tackle behind - they seemed more composed than the Giants, and their run and spread was terrific.
Gregson looked completely exhausted in the first half of the final quarter, but somehow managed to pick himself up and make some great long runs across the field very late in the game. kolo looked composed and always seemed to be in the right place, there did not seem to be any of that pointing and yelling that you might expect with a young player. (And one weird effect of the wind was that you could hear what the players were saying when they were on the east side of the ground.) But we wondered whether Bews was dropped so that players like Kelly and Bartel could give Kolo more structure and direction?
Not sure why, but after the game, Mackie ran a long way up to shake hands with the Giants sub, who seemed to have been injured.
Oh: and it was so cold it felt like it was about to snow. i don't know how Daniel McL managed a hot chocoloate and a pie, over our side of the ground they seemed to have decided that food rationing and thirty-metre queues were the go. Next time I'm taking a thermos and a pizza oven to keep warm.
Matches very very well with what i saw at the game: all around ground pressure good, lack of a ruck-size ruckman obvious and damaging. (only disagreement is on making the finals: we need at least one and probably two teams to lose two more games than us, and I cannot see it happening.)
Walker seemed more active, I agree, and was around some ruck contests he did not end up being in. Kersten perhaps did not lay many tackles but baulked a few players, and when he did lay a tackle, made sure it counted.
I think the wind hurt him in terms of both delivery and output - any long kicks were going deep, and it would have been useless most of the time to mark on the 50 as it was unkickable from there. His best work was done in diverting defenders 20 metres away from Hawkins.
Oh Teriyaki, this is a thing of incredible beauty.
How many bits of paper for this?
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Johnny, there's something I need to tell you... you see, man has invented this wondrous thing called a 'computer'...Oh Teriyaki, this is a thing of incredible beauty.
How many bits of paper for this?
I actually think that I prefer to do these things by hand- my spreadsheet seems to have inconsistencies that I need to keep my eye on, such as not averaging or adding some columns or rows... It's probably because I'm a complete amateur at using Excel, though, being one of those people who grew up teething on an abacus and slide rule.
Hubby used to get a bit annoyed at all my little stashes of cut out stats from the newspapers, so I've started scanning them and hiding them away that way.
