Hawthorn's Most Important Player

[MrPremiership]

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2015-01-29/most-important-player-roughead-v-hodge

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-01-29/hawks-most-important

Great debate here. Been discussing this with my hawk and non-hawk mates and we can split them.

Two different types of importance. Roughead is important because of our structure, the key power forward who is good on the ground, can go in the middle and kicks goals. We don't really have a ready made replacement for him and would struggle to replace him.

Hodge probably isn't the most important player in our structure, but his leadership qualities are priceless and I would love someone to quantify how good his leadership is out on the ground in terms of goals. He sets up players and gets everyone on the same page.

 

[TazHawk15]

To hard to split.

 

[Gralin]

Super difficult we lose either we are in massive trouble.

Rough so important to our structure

Hodge so important to making sure we structure up

I still have Hodge ahead based on how much he influences the game without ball in hand

 

[MinerBoy]

I won't choose.

You can't make me.

 

[cryptor]

It's like asking what's more important for your survival; water or food?
You could probably make an argument for one being more important than the other but take away either and you're just as ****** in the end.

 

[QuietB]

It's like asking what's more important for your survival; water or food?
You could probably make an argument for one being more important than the other but take away either and you're just as ****** in the end.

water

 

[cryptor]

water

Roughead is water in that example. We'd feel the effects of not having him much faster than Hodge whose absence would be felt over a longer time.

 

[Davo23]

Just to repeat something I posted earlier - a conversation before the 2014 Finals: with my mate, Andy:

Andy: "it's great that the most important player in our team is fit and available"
Davo23: "which one, Hodge, Mitchell, Burgoyne, Lewis or Roughead?"
Andy: "not the best player, the most important! Brian Lake, of course"


Davo23 bows to Andy!

 

[MinerBoy]

It's like asking what's more important for your survival; water or food?
You could probably make an argument for one being more important than the other but take away either and you're just as ****** in the end.

Will there still be beer though?

 

[BOP66]

If we had got past Collingwood in 2011 PF(which we should of) we would not of beaten Geelong without the Smooth!
That said an unfit Hodge was detrimental to our 2012 GF.
So in accordance with others here way too hard to split.

 

[threesixpio]

Super difficult we lose either we are in massive trouble.

Rough so important to our structure

Hodge so important to making sure we structure up

I still have Hodge ahead based on how much he influences the game without ball in hand

Hmmm. I reckon we would lose more games without Ruffy actually

 

[QuietB]

Will there still be beer though?

See that changes everything. You have too much beer you are going to need water. But do you need the souva first

 

[MinerBoy]

See that changes everything. You have too much beer you are going to need water. But do you need the souva first

Well eating's cheating so obviously beer is > food. So it then becomes beer v water.

 

[Thaihawk]

Who do you love more, your son, or your daughter? The answer is both.

 

[MrFujiMoto]

Rough - as hard as that is to say we can cover Hodge adequately by shifting roles to Burgers / Mitch / Lewis / Shiels and Langford. We lose Roughead and we are relying on unproven talent and the forward structure doesn't gel as well when he is not there. We lost 2 from 2 minus the Rough last year and we looked all at sea in both of those games forward of the center.

Needless to say that those 2 games were 2 of our lowest scoring affairs all year. He straightens us up big time

 

[cryptor]

Will there still be beer though?

Brian Lake is beer. A lot of the time it ends in a great time but occasionally you're left holding your head in your hands and asking "oh why?"

 

[MrPremiership]

Rough - as hard as that is to say we can cover Hodge adequately by shifting roles to Burgers / Mitch / Lewis / Shiels and Langford. We lose Roughead and we are relying on unproven talent and the forward structure doesn't gel as well when he is not there. We lost 2 from 2 minus the Rough last year and we looked all at sea in both of those games forward of the center.

Needless to say that those 2 games were 2 of our lowest scoring affairs all year. He straightens us up big time

We can cover Hodge in terms of structure, but not leadership

 

[MinerBoy]

Brian Lake is beer. A lot of the time it ends in a great time but occasionally you're left holding your head in your hands and asking "oh why?"

haha. Well played.

 

[MrFujiMoto]

We can cover Hodge in terms of structure, but not leadership

Correct to a degree I think, the team is a very disciplined unit thanks in large to Hodge. Mitch and burgers would be adequate fill ins. We can't cover roughs leadership or position adequately in the forward line

 

[Jaeger]

Tough one. Structurally it's probably Rough.

 

[MrPremiership]

Correct to a degree I think, the team is a very disciplined unit thanks in large to Hodge. Mitch and burgers would be adequate fill ins. We can't cover roughs leadership or position adequately in the forward line

this is probably what puts me 0.00001% more in the Rough camp

 

[threesixpio]

Rough - as hard as that is to say we can cover Hodge adequately by shifting roles to Burgers / Mitch / Lewis / Shiels and Langford. We lose Roughead and we are relying on unproven talent and the forward structure doesn't gel as well when he is not there. We lost 2 from 2 minus the Rough last year and we looked all at sea in both of those games forward of the center.

Needless to say that those 2 games were 2 of our lowest scoring affairs all year. He straightens us up big time

This

 

[HR Roughnstuf]

Its like asking which Geelong player you hate most, so hard to split

 

[QuietB]

Its like asking which Geelong player you hate most, so hard to split

I was going to reply not really but then I started thinking about it, Mackie , Selwood vomit, Hawkins , SJ vomit twice, etc.

 

[cryptor]

I was going to reply not really but then I started thinking about it, Mackie , Selwood vomit, Hawkins , SJ vomit twice, etc.

Motlop acts like a flog with that limp finger twirl after kicking a goal