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medusala said:
Nope. Unless you are of the black tourniquet mindset. Bringers of civilisation to the globe. Unlike the Catholics in the Congo, South America etc.
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What about the Ulster 'Plantation' of the 17th century where land was confiscated from the locals and given to incoming Protestant families to change the demographics of the north of Ireland forever? As you might know, Ulster was the last of the four Irish provinces to fall. Land ownership needed to be broken and the population dispersed.

What's better than a bit of ethno-religious cleansing, meds?
 

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Geelong_Sicko said:
What about the Ulster 'Plantation' of the 17th century where land was confiscated from the locals and given to incoming Protestant families to change the demographics of the north of Ireland forever? As you might know, Ulster was the last of the four Irish provinces to fall. Land ownership needed to be broken and the population dispersed.

What's better than a bit of ethno-religious cleansing, meds?
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The settlers weren't church of England

In any event you can hardly compare that to what the Micks did in Europe, Belgians in the Congo, Islamic terrorist, slaughter in Sri Lanka etc.

skilts said:
Oliver Cromwell sends his regards.
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Cromwell wasn't Church of England. See derivation of Tory.
 
medusala said:
The settlers weren't church of England

In any event you can hardly compare that to what the Micks did in Europe, Belgians in the Congo, Islamic terrorist, slaughter in Sri Lanka etc.
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I thought Church of England came under the Protestant banner? If you're Catholic you're simply Catholic - but if you're Protestant you could be Lutheran, Baptist, Anglican, Church of England or any of the Pentecostal churches.

I'll happily admit if I'm wrong, though. The history usually says 'Protestant settlers' or 'Protestant landowners' without providing further clarity.
 
GG said:
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Too right. For believers there might be three separations: The Separation of God and Church and State. A church might perform any number of acts claiming God's Will forces its hand. But is it really? Is an organised religion just humans being humans at heart - in pursuit of power structures and socio-political conquest irrespective of God's existence or not?

For an agnostic like me, I really have to wonder.
 
Geelong_Sicko said:
Too right. For believers there might be three separations: The Separation of God and Church and State. A church might perform any number of acts claiming God's Will forces its hand. But is it really? Is an organised religion just humans being humans at heart - in pursuit of power structures and socio-political conquest irrespective of God's existence or not?

For an agnostic like me, I really have to wonder.
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That's exactly right. Its just humans being humans and deriving their deeds from themselves. Its just one big lord of the flies and from every corner of ancient civilization each their own lord of the flies.

Atheists no different tho. Communists have slain tens if millions plus. And one day all the anti religion people will round up the religious and eradicate them from the earth lest there be anymore eradication by religions.

Its all bullshit and there's no answer or peace and acceptance. Ideological wars. But also race and maybe even species wars. That's just the nature of life and the universe. FUBAR.

Best you can do is be an individual, with principles and truth, raise a cool family, make lifelong friends, part from the earth fondly.
 
Geelong_Sicko said:
I'll happily admit if I'm wrong, though. The history usually says 'Protestant settlers' or 'Protestant landowners' without providing further clarity.
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Gus or others will know full details. However, pretty sure most of the settlers were Scots Presbyterian even if occasionally masquerading as church of Ireland. Plenty of traffic went the other way too.

Geelong_Sicko said:
If you're Catholic you're simply Catholic - but if you're Protestant you could be Lutheran, Baptist, Anglican, Church of England or any of the Pentecostal churches..
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Yes. There are some real nut jobs that fall under the protestant banner.
 
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skilts said:
The story you quoted has as its subject the discovery of the bodies of children. To put 'embodies' in the title of the thread is the sort of thing some sub-editors do when they write headlines for tabloid papers. A common element of such writing is the use of execrable puns, as you did in your title. It seems fair to assume that the pun was certainly unintended, and seemingly, still invisible to you. There is a distinct possibility that all this confusion is my fault. I won't be offended if you don't write back.
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It is not unknown for me to purvey unintended hilarity and offense. I can now add puns to this list, I suppose.
 

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medusala said:
Halfway house for agnostics. Merely a fig leaf to separate us from socialists and other Bob Brown like rabble.



I must have stuffed it up, fixed now.
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Us? Oh I see. Another group you're a part of which happens to be the most awesome in the world in its area. :)
 
Geelong_Sicko said:
Chief, the most stable genius, doesn't get puns, but he enjoys getting metaphysical. Are ANY religions 'real'?
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If you have criteria of something you call a "religion" you can then compare anything seeking to call itself "religion" with that criteria.

:ben:
 
Chief said:
It is not unknown for me to purvey unintended hilarity and offense. I can now add puns to this list, I suppose.
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It would seem that you, like me, are at your funniest when it's completely unintentional, and when we are at our most earnestly serious. I get infuriated by this. Not because of people having fun at my expense, but because I was too stupid to see the humour myself. You're not a bad stick.
 
Pie eyed said:
Human necessity.
The famous serial killer Albert Fish even mentions getting his taste for children from a western friend who spent time in Hong Kong during the famine.
From his letter to the parents of a victim:
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jesus christ! did anyone else wish they hadn't read that letter?

i'm too soft; that story will play on my mind. hopefully not for long. * me.
 
Chief said:
http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...en-galway-mass-graves-ireland-catholic-church



But hey... don't judge the past by today's standards. There was a time when societies the world over accepted and celebrated the practice of child neglect, abuse and the hiding of their dead bodies.
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Seems the whole story is a hoax.
Children, dead from natural causes, mostly TB and the like interred in a crypt, not unusual, and not a septic tank.
Story belongs in the Anti-vacc crazy thread.
 
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