Jack Ziebell vs Tom Rockliff?
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You post way to many Polls Board threads...
But Ziebell wins just for me.
But Ziebell wins just for me.
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I think the constant posting of Rockliff has made some posters tired of him 
Rockliff wins this.
Rockliff wins this.
Rockliff. He is ahead comfortably at the moment.
His 2011 and 2013 seasons are better than anything Ziebell has put together. North supporters can make excuses for Ziebell all they want, but it's time for him to start producing on a consistent basis.
His 2011 and 2013 seasons are better than anything Ziebell has put together. North supporters can make excuses for Ziebell all they want, but it's time for him to start producing on a consistent basis.
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How can you definitively say that?
Oh i forgot north supporters can see into the future
As for the poll, Rockliff all day, every day for me
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Two broken legs for example. I'd rate them even on output now, JZ having a higher ceiling. Will be very interesting to see how the new slimline JZ goes with the interchange caps.
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Rockliff easily. An Amazing find for Brisbane coming from the pre-season draft.
Ziebell to warrant comparison needs to find more pill and on a more consistent basis. Isn't far off it though, he'll get there.
Ziebell to warrant comparison needs to find more pill and on a more consistent basis. Isn't far off it though, he'll get there.
Yeah, the broken legs...
He's had 3 years of uninterrupted footy (well, except for all those suspensions) and hasn't produced anywhere near what Rockliff has. Rockliff is ahead on output easily. Maybe Ziebell will become the better player... maybe.
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Rockliff for me -great pick by the Lions.
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Strange poll in some ways.
Clearly Rockliff has done far more so far, but then Ziebell has reasons why he started slowly. So answer is Rockliff clearly (to now).
But, they are very different players. I think Ziebell may become the superior player in coming seasons due to his higher impact but less possies, but I may be biased. Both talented with different abilities.
Clearly Rockliff has done far more so far, but then Ziebell has reasons why he started slowly. So answer is Rockliff clearly (to now).
But, they are very different players. I think Ziebell may become the superior player in coming seasons due to his higher impact but less possies, but I may be biased. Both talented with different abilities.
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Rockliff has proven much more at this stage of their careers, and to be honest as badly as the 2 broken legs set Ziebell back, that excuse isn't really valid anymore.
Rockliff better at this stage, but would be very happy to have either, and I think Ziebell's injuries are a valid point, it's hard to be at your best when you miss a lot of footy and fitness work, particularly as a relatively young player.
Rockliff for mine. Both will be good players for their respective clubs. Rockliff really improved his clearance and tackling work this year, when he was actually played in the guts that is. I'm not saying Ziebull hasn't improved, because he has. He has been unlucky with the injuries he has picked up though.
But Rockliff has him covered by a fair way.
But Rockliff has him covered by a fair way.
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Rockliff has him covered and then when you add in the fact that Ziebell will miss a couple of matches through suspension it becomes even more one sided
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Rockliff now. Ziebell's had too many setbacks to get to Rockliff's level at the moment and Rockliff is in my top 5 favourite non-North players, though that's largely DreamTeam related.
I must say (perhaps with a bias), that Ziebell will end up the better player.
I must say (perhaps with a bias), that Ziebell will end up the better player.
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Agree with most others thoughts and go Rockliff at this stage of their careers
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Rockliff without question. His second half of 2013 was phenomenal, top 5 players stuff.
I'd be interested to know how you reached the conclusion that their outputs have been even to date. Rockliff Has massively better stats and it's not like he stands on the wing and receives, he gets his own ball. Ziebell has a lot of potential but at the moment that's all he's got, he's a pretty average midfielder at this stage.
Up until the last sentence your opinion was valid. The only way that would be corrected is if you change the name from Ziebell to Zaharakis.
Ziebells value to North will eventually be what Watsons is to Essendon in my opinion. He will go down as a club great. He is not at the output of Rockliff that's a given, but l think he will be a top 50 player in the league in the next year or two now that he is more aerobically capable.
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i don't know what relevance Zaharakis has to a poll between Ziebell and Rockliff, but as you bring him up it is pretty clear his output has been greater than Ziebell and I don't see why anybody would think he doesn't have as much or more upside as well.
Just pointing out the definition of an ordinary midfielder that is the relevance.
It must be said if you only travel hard one way, the chances are you will collect a bit more ball when the ball comes back.
So Ziebell is less than ordinary then?
