UK Michael Lynch and train dispute in the UK

[Chief]

Enjoying Mick Lynch's responses on this.

Sky attack aircraft Kay Burley firing questions and Lynch just shaking his head telling her he doesn't negotiate on the street with a media presenter



Meanwhile Tory minister just lying through his teeth about everything.

"Grant Shapps has a problem with reality it seems at times... "

 

[Chief]

BTW: I don't follow this stuff, just enjoying the exchanges.

He gives a back-bencher an earful for showing up just to repeat the talking points he was handed by Tory HQ.

One point: "Oh the veterans who will miss out on veterans day events because of these strikes!"

Like they give a fudge about war veterans:

Rishi Sunak plans to cut funding for armed forces veterans by 40%

According to The Times' Defence Editor, Larisa Brown, Rishi Sunak is set to cut funding for armed forces veteran by 40%. It was announced over Twitter.

www.joe.co.uk

 

[CM86]

Enjoying Mick Lynch's responses on this.

Sky attack aircraft Kay Burley firing questions and Lynch just shaking his head telling her he doesn't negotiate on the street with a media presenter



Meanwhile Tory minister just lying through his teeth about everything.

"Grant Shapps has a problem with reality it seems at times... "

It's just so refreshing to see.

Here we've still got people talking about a protest (Where someone drove their car into a group of people..........)... and the media is using the same bullshit talking points we see in that attack ad (interview).
City in chaos. People dying. Won't someone think of the children. Get a job. Protesters are slackers. et al.


Mick Lynch just took apart all of these idiotic positions and arguments with charisma and authority. We need more of it.

 

[Chief]

He's also talking about a holistic approach to city design, with public transport at its centre. Obviously that's good for his members, but it ties in with the very core of emissions reduction.

He can sell that to the majority of people - labour, socialist greens, tree tories.

Even conservatives who aren't invested in road-building and carbon fuels should be on board. How do businesses pay staff less if the staff can't live out of town and get the train in?

 

[spinynorman]

He’s a breath of fresh air.

The Google search “Join union” has a 184% increase in the UK in the week that he began his TV appearances. British Airways staff have voted to strike over pay as a generation discovers the power of a strike.

He’s done more for the movement for working class people in a fortnight than Keir Starmer’s entire career. It’s a joy to see it.

 

[CM86]

It's not about the train strikes, but I feel it's still in line with the thread.

Person calls into LBC, with a powerful and meaningful message. That I wish we'd heard 4 months ago.

 

[Pessimistic]

He’s a good listen.

 

[nut]

Anybody else love watching Michael Lynch making reporters and politicians look like idiots?

 

[spinynorman]

Starmer fired his shadow transport minister for supporting the striking rail workers at the picket line.

Nice work, not like Labour's in the party's name or anything like that.

 

[Chief]

Amazing.

Anne Widdicombe shouting "wage-price spiral!" was a sight to see. She doesn't seem to understand that wages have been cut over the last X years while inflation has not stopped. Have to find that video of Eddie Dempsey voicing this fact to apparently deaf TV hosts.

Wages obviously are not affecting inflation as much as other factors. England is an expensive place to live at the best of times. Can't imagine what it's like right now. Tories want the workers to burn their furniture to keep warm.

 

[mellowyellow]

Excellent interview

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

We need someone like that down here. A no bullshit operator.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

We need someone like that down here. A no bullshit operator.

So refreshing.

With Albo pledging to do politics better, we can hope. Though as I commented in his thread this morning, the fact he's shown he's prepared to blatantly bullschitte the electorate about the Greens' climate policy is not a very encouraging start.

 

[nut]

 

[spinynorman]

Inspiring.

 

[Chief]

Bloke on Frankie Boyle made the good point that there might be even more money in the pot for workers if Lynch and fellow Brexitvandals hadn't permanently scarred the UK economy with Brexit.

 

[Jivlain]

Bloke on Frankie Boyle made the good point that there might be even more money in the pot for workers if Lynch and fellow Brexitvandals hadn't permanently scarred the UK economy with Brexit.

Meh, I think one thing we can take from the last few years is that all talk of pots and magic money trees is fake.

There was plenty of money in the pot for giving huge contracts with no delivery requirements to their mates/pub landlords/spouses. £37bn for Serco, Sitel and a tory life peer for an entirely nonfunctional test and trace system. Etc etc etc.

Brexit was an act of catastrophic, foolish self-destruction advocated for by a bunch of Tory Year Zero crackpots & zealots but either way the people controlling the pot's #1 priority was always going to be to make sure noone who did any actual useful work ever get a penny out of it, regardless of how large the pot is.

 

[Chief]

I find nothing much to argue about with that.

I still think he's a brilliant person to lead his Union. But he has to be accountable for his part in the Brexit disaster.

 

[Jivlain]

I find nothing much to argue about with that.

I still think he's a brilliant person to lead his Union. But he has to be accountable for his part in the Brexit disaster.

Sure, but iirc the full extent of his involvement was his personal vote on the day. Which, ok, he's responsible for that, but, also, I don't really care.

So many people so much more responsible. That nitwit who put a referendum with a disastrous option on it, in a country with an absurdly deranged media, in an attempt to pacify a few weirdo backbenchers. And then lost.
The people who'd spent years propping up those weirdo backbenchers.
The weirdo backbenchers.
The rest of their party.
The deranged media.
The People's Referendum leaders, who chose absolute opposition to the possibility of a soft Brexit when it thoroughly was on the table, and then split the only viable opposition because there was a possibility it might do some mild social democracy.

If I'm lining up people responsible for Brexit, from most to least, Lynch ranks somewhere in the millions.

 

[Chief]

iirc the full extent of his involvement was his personal vote on the day.

I believe his Union was pushing Brexit, but I'd be happy for a fact check.

 

[Jivlain]

I believe his Union was pushing Brexit, but I'd be happy for a fact check.

They did, but he wasn't leading it at the time.

In any case, the RMT's issues with the EU were sound and relevant to their industry.

As far as Lexit goes, probably the best thing I read on it was an essay in Salvage magazine that laid out a sound case for leaving the EU - and then basically stated we should be so lucky if Prime Minister Corbyn was ever in a position to run afoul of the EU's enforced neoliberalism, what would be much more likely is that the Tories would take it as a chance to build a bonfire of workers' and human rights, and so the best thing to do For Now is hold your nose, vote remain, and stay in this side of Fortress Europe for the time being.

But as I mentioned, the RMT's concerns were valid - workers in those industries are accutely affected by the enforced neoliberalism - and I can respect the position without necessarily agreeing with it.

Unlike the position of most other brexiteers.

 

[Zevon]

I work for the railways in Sydney and we’ve been mired in a long-running industrial dispute with the NSW government ever since our EA expired well over a year ago. Most of us would kill for a union leader like Lynch

 

[Chief]

Amazing.

Anne Widdicombe shouting "wage-price spiral!" was a sight to see. She doesn't seem to understand that wages have been cut over the last X years while inflation has not stopped. Have to find that video of Eddie Dempsey voicing this fact to apparently deaf TV hosts.

Wages obviously are not affecting inflation as much as other factors. England is an expensive place to live at the best of times. Can't imagine what it's like right now. Tories want the workers to burn their furniture to keep warm.

This just popped into my head again, as Anne Widdicombe often does.

What's the end game here?

While inflation is low, no wage rises for fear of sparking inflation. Result: drop in real wages over years.

While inflation is high, no wage rises for fear of even higher inflation. Result: accelerated drop in real wages.

What are they after?

At what point are people reduced enough for the Tories to say "OK get the boot off the back of their neck, they'll die if we keep it up"?

 

[Over The Post]

They don't care if people die, as they wouldn't be Tory voters anyway.