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Funny thing is the nationals are rock solid in their constituency
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This is an excellent summary of him. Tony Abbott was nothing but a wrecker, but Dutton is even more of an opportunist - he is anti-everything. He's a reactionary.That’s just it. He’s so sure everyone else is wrong & if he just keeps doubling down on his pointless anti everything culture war nonsense the electorate will come to its senses & magically restore the libs their rightful position of power & he can get back to looting the treasury for his own pockets.
I'd suggest you are far closer to the likes of Hillsong - devoted to the book that tells you what to believe in, akin to a footy club cheer squad member.As usual I have no idea what point you are actually trying to make in quoting me.
I'll make it simpler. Dutton is a stupid, unelectable thug who is spreading division to try and score political points.
He wouldn't be elected in a million years.
However as I am capable of holding different and on some levels contradictory ideas in my head I am able to express that I am disappointed in how Albanese has governed so far on a number of levels.
It is light years away however from the greatest bunch of incompetent, corrupt grifters who occupied government for the previous 9 years culminating in the worst government and the most corrupt, venal, stand for nothing, sociopathic PM in Australia's history.
Things like helping the less fortunate by closing IR loop holes so our low income earners stop getting underpaid.....but guess who is saying No to this.I think it’s Albo’s to lose but the gloss is coming off with progressive voters like myself who are just seeing business as usual kowtowing to the resources industries, Murdoch & the IPA on tax cuts etc & nothing actually being done to progress us towards improving the lot of the less fortunate. Just business as usual doing the bidding of big business & bending over for the US on defense.
Meet the new boss same as the old boss.
The problem there is the unforeseen consequences that seem to jump out.Things like helping the less fortunate by closing IR loop holes so our low income earners stop getting underpaid.....but guess who is saying No to this.
The problem there is the unforeseen consequences that seem to jump out.
I am saddened that when a Government Department underpays their people OR a University or a not for profit, underpays anyone,its a simple mistake but if its the private sector its deliberate, evil profiteering.
The hypocrisy writ large.
The outsourcing to get around restrictive labour laws is promoted by those wanting the lowest common denominator to apply to Australian industry, see the demise of manufacturing in Australia, the current dream that our rare metals mining might spawn battery manufacturing (that boat has sailed, see Indonesia & South Korea in our part of the world), or the next frolic with Australia a Superpower.
Scary to think there are people that look at Barnaby Joyce and say yeah thats the guy I want making decisions.Funny thing is the nationals are rock solid in their constituency
There's a class action against Monsanto at the moment over damage caused by the use of Roundup weedkiller, they should offer up the seat of New England as evidence.Scary to think there are people that look at Barnaby Joyce and say yeah thats the guy I want making decisions.
Fair point. I admit I'm not following things as closely as I do sometimes but my general impression is they'e been a bit underwhelming in some areas of reform that the electorate showed appetite for at the last election.Things like helping the less fortunate by closing IR loop holes so our low income earners stop getting underpaid.....but guess who is saying No to this.
Are you suggesting it doesn't happen in the public sector or is it only the sinful private employers.How come the private sector never seem to overpay the low paid workers by accident?
Just a coincidence?
Tony Windsor ....There's a class action against Monsanto at the moment over damage caused by the use of Roundup weedkiller, they should offer up the seat of New England as evidence.
As usual you have no idea but I'm getting into ad hominem which serves no one so I'll go back to just not engaging with you. As you were.I'd suggest you are far closer to the likes of Hillsong - devoted to the book that tells you what to believe in, akin to a footy club cheer squad member.
Da Nile. They just use a different book.As usual you have no idea but I'm getting into ad hominem which serves no one so I'll go back to just not engaging with you. As you were.
I don't think this Labor government has been much different to past Labor governments (Rudd, Hawke/Keating before that). That is, you're never going to get radical change from Liberal to Labor, but overall we are better off and the longer Labor are in power over the Liberals, the better off we will be. In the first year, Labor made a climate change commitment that the Liberals wouldn't make, brought in workplace harassment laws and are working on the same job, same pay legislation, and brought in a corruption commission. That's good. I'm less impressed with the stage 3 tax cuts or AUKUS. But I'm probably a pragmatist in that I don't expect massive change in the first year or two and I don't expect radical differences between the two parties, just gradual improvement.I think it’s Albo’s to lose but the gloss is coming off with progressive voters like myself who are just seeing business as usual kowtowing to the resources industries, Murdoch & the IPA on tax cuts etc & nothing actually being done to progress us towards improving the lot of the less fortunate. Just business as usual doing the bidding of big business & bending over for the US on defense.
Meet the new boss same as the old boss.
I don't think this Labor government has been much different to past Labor governments (Rudd, Hawke/Keating before that). That is, you're never going to get radical change from Liberal to Labor, but overall we are better off and the longer Labor are in power over the Liberals, the better off we will be. In the first year, Labor made a climate change commitment that the Liberals wouldn't make, brought in workplace harassment laws and are working on the same job, same pay legislation, and brought in a corruption commission. That's good. I'm less impressed with the stage 3 tax cuts or AUKUS. But I'm probably a pragmatist in that I don't expect massive change in the first year or two and I don't expect radical differences between the two parties, just gradual improvement.
Which is not to say we shouldn't always demand better. But any suggestion we'd be just as well off under Morrison or Dutton would be well wide of the mark, imo.
You mean the economy broken by 10 years of lnp incompetence, underfunded education and skills, funneling money to shady self interest?There is no doubt you've hit the nail on the head here:
But any suggestion we'd be just as well off under Morrison or Dutton would be well wide of the mark, imo.
Its the economy that will stymie the aspirations of Albo's Government:
'The bigger question, for which the Labor government has little answer, is what will push Australia back to traditional 3 per cent-plus economic growth rates that can sustain the promised sustainable increase in living standards. The two driving forces of Australia’s modern prosperity over the past 30 years – the productivity surge from the 1980s and 90s reform era and the China-based resources boom of the 2000s – are unlikely to do the job this time.'
'And national income is being squeezed by the fall in Australia’s terms of trade – from a century-and-a-half high – as prices for commodity exports such as iron ore, coal and gas come off their highs. Amid Treasurer Jim Chalmers’ warnings about China’s economic slowdown, Beijing is unlikely to come to Australia’s rescue as it did during the Global Financial Crisis.'
Labor needs an answer for sub-par growth
The driving forces of Australia’s prosperity over the past 30 years – a productivity surge and the resources boom – are unlikely to do the job this time.www.afr.com
Imagine how well off we would be if Abbott didn't get rid of the resources tax and looked after his mates but at least he tried to knight Prince PhilipThere is no doubt you've hit the nail on the head here:
But any suggestion we'd be just as well off under Morrison or Dutton would be well wide of the mark, imo.
Its the economy that will stymie the aspirations of Albo's Government:
'The bigger question, for which the Labor government has little answer, is what will push Australia back to traditional 3 per cent-plus economic growth rates that can sustain the promised sustainable increase in living standards. The two driving forces of Australia’s modern prosperity over the past 30 years – the productivity surge from the 1980s and 90s reform era and the China-based resources boom of the 2000s – are unlikely to do the job this time.'
'And national income is being squeezed by the fall in Australia’s terms of trade – from a century-and-a-half high – as prices for commodity exports such as iron ore, coal and gas come off their highs. Amid Treasurer Jim Chalmers’ warnings about China’s economic slowdown, Beijing is unlikely to come to Australia’s rescue as it did during the Global Financial Crisis.'
Labor needs an answer for sub-par growth
The driving forces of Australia’s prosperity over the past 30 years – a productivity surge and the resources boom – are unlikely to do the job this time.www.afr.com
Are you talking about Treasurer Morrison, Health minister Morrison, Defence Minister Morrison or PM Morrison?Is Kwality really trying to suggest Morrison, who racked up a trillion dollars of debt with little to show for it, would have had us all feeling better off?
Yes.Are you talking about Treasurer Morrison, Health minister Morrison, Defence Minister Morrison or PM Morrison?
Is there a reason you haven't quoted me .....Is Kwality really trying to suggest Morrison, who racked up a trillion dollars of debt with little to show for it, would have had us all feeling better off?
Yes, the Australian economy.You mean the economy broken by 10 years of lnp incompetence, underfunded education and skills, funneling money to shady self interest?
I don't think this Labor government has been much different to past Labor governments (Rudd, Hawke/Keating before that). That is, you're never going to get radical change from Liberal to Labor, but overall we are better off and the longer Labor are in power over the Liberals, the better off we will be. In the first year, Labor made a climate change commitment that the Liberals wouldn't make, brought in workplace harassment laws and are working on the same job, same pay legislation, and brought in a corruption commission. That's good. I'm less impressed with the stage 3 tax cuts or AUKUS. But I'm probably a pragmatist in that I don't expect massive change in the first year or two and I don't expect radical differences between the two parties, just gradual improvement.
Which is not to say we shouldn't always demand better. But any suggestion we'd be just as well off under Morrison or Dutton would be well wide of the mark, imo.
blame is fairly on the LNP then and not the ALP for the inherited s**t showYes, the Australian economy.