You could have just googled it yourself. But here you go, first links up a couple of extensions
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Im with you No Spin. Begg is going ok and don't worry about the naysayers.
I love how much difficulty you have admitting your errors, as numerous as they are. Even when you try to it can’t be anything but a condescending potshot. Never change!#obsession
I'll say Nathan Krueger's career has had some "up parts", like a 3 goal game in a VFL match, thus making his career like a rollercoaster... if it helps you sleep at night... and it looks like it just might.
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Strength is an aspect of athleticism, surely you admit that?
When we look at the athleticism of draft prospects - strength rarely comes into it. Those draftees are usually classified as “powerful”
Sure, but you look at capacity to develop it. Sean Darcy at 20 compared to Begg, in this aspect, are night and day. Begg also doesn't really do anything with this supposed athleticism. Doesn't mark, doesn't do well in the ruck. What good is an athlete if he doesn't impose himself?
Begg would eat Darcy for Pace, mobility and ground ball work but remember this discussion is not about Begg’s Rucking ability.
Problem is Spinny, when you look around the league, height and strength appear to be the most important athletic traits for a ruck.
The problem is if he is not a first ruck than he is either up forward or on bench. Up forward he has shown little and if on bench why not bring play two first rucks to get an advantage. I liked pick initially and that we have given him a chance as it did look like his athleticism could translate well up forward or even down back. Sadly that has not been the case so far and he has 10 weeks to see if he can change this otherwise I will be amazed if he is still on list next year.
None of those traits seem to indicate he’ll make it as a ruck with his height (or lack thereof).
I think he’s aerial game can be developed if he plays defence. It’s easier to read the game behind the ball. Ruck is probably the hardest place to develop an aerial game.
Ruck is harder in terms of getting your running right to be in the right place. But if the issue is reading the ball flight, you're stuffed in defence. And like Grundy, I don't think he can read it in the air.
But why would you bother? Why not just pick or steal a tall 195+ bloke in the draft or with a trade who has developed as a defender as a junior and knows the craft? His athletic ability isnt that good that it is worth developing him as a defender when he has never played there before.
He’ll never be Moore in the air but I think it can be worked on to a reasonable standard. Even Grundy can take a pack mark if he’s in the right spot and gets a free run and jump at it.
That’s a good point, I think Eyre might be worth a shot on our list.
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Lynch was taller and could play 1st ruck. He only had the durable Grundy in front of him and he left for more opportunity (Cameron and Cox were not considered 1st rucks at the time). Begg has Cox, Cameron, Frampton and Steene in front of him. If we re-sign him he will more likely clog the list for 1-2 years (I dont see him getting past the taller rucks we have as 1st ruck) or much more unlikely he will develop and leave for more opportunity. He cant mark like Cox, Cameron or even Steene and because of this he looks 4th in line as a 2nd ruck forward. He has traits similar to Will Kelly who has struggled as a backman so I dont see him as a backman.
Agree re McMahons deficiencies - and hence why the Club was comfortable to let him go knowing Begg was contracted. If there were doubts about Begg then McMahon would have been given an extension.
Not sure of your logic here Spinny. If they thought Begg wasn't going to make it, why would they have also kept someone else who they didn't think would make it?
