I'm not sure you can take credit for Gunston in this draft since you poached him from Adelaide 2 years later after he had won their best first year player.
I guess that makes our 2004 draft a success now that we've got Buddy
Redo the 2009 draft.
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I'm not sure you can take credit for Gunston in this draft since you poached him from Adelaide 2 years later after he had won their best first year player.
I guess that makes our 2004 draft a success now that we've got Buddy
Rookie upgrades don't count
Honestly its like you can't read this is the last time i will respond to you I said it is NOT clear cut in my mind. If you watched Sheppard as close as I or any wce supporter does you would realise his performance has not been the same through his career.
Shep at his best operates at the level of a mid to late 2nd rd draft pick.
Shame we spaffed pick 7 on him, and then followed up with Koby Stevens (22) and Gerrick Weedon (23).
2009...what a year!
Shame we spaffed pick 7 on him, and then followed up with Koby Stevens (22) and Gerrick Weedon (23).
2009...what a year!
The first two don't bother me so much. It was Jetta, Lucas or sheppard at the time. Stevens was rated higher than where we took him. Weedon was the one that pissed me right off, we took him far too early even though we needed a tall and Black and Carlisle were available.Shep at his best operates at the level of a mid to late 2nd rd draft pick.
Shame we spaffed pick 7 on him, and then followed up with Koby Stevens (22) and Gerrick Weedon (23).
2009...what a year!
fyfe
gunston
carlile
talia
stratton
martin
barlow
cunnington
duncan
crameri
christionson
black
jetta
rohan
scully
# martin would easily be pick 2, but off field issues drops him down the pecking order a bit.
# carlile could be a far better player than gunston but at this stage gunston is more consistent.
# I think Stratton is actually a really underrated player.
# menzel, morrabito would make the list if not for injuries.
gunston
carlile
talia
stratton
martin
barlow
cunnington
duncan
crameri
christionson
black
jetta
rohan
scully
# martin would easily be pick 2, but off field issues drops him down the pecking order a bit.
# carlile could be a far better player than gunston but at this stage gunston is more consistent.
# I think Stratton is actually a really underrated player.
# menzel, morrabito would make the list if not for injuries.
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Re-Done 2009 order
1. Nat Fyfe
2. Daniel Talia
3. Jake Carlisle
4. Dustin Martin
5. Jack Gunston
6. Michael Barlow
7. Ben Cunnington
8. Mitch Duncan
9. Stewart Crameri
10. Ben Stratton
11. Levi Casboult
12. Aaron Black
13. Sam Reid
14. Allen Christensen
15. Lewis Jetta
16. Tom Scully
17. Gary Rohan
18. Taylor Duryea
19. Jasper Pittard
20. Matt Jaensch
1. Nat Fyfe
2. Daniel Talia
3. Jake Carlisle
4. Dustin Martin
5. Jack Gunston
6. Michael Barlow
7. Ben Cunnington
8. Mitch Duncan
9. Stewart Crameri
10. Ben Stratton
11. Levi Casboult
12. Aaron Black
13. Sam Reid
14. Allen Christensen
15. Lewis Jetta
16. Tom Scully
17. Gary Rohan
18. Taylor Duryea
19. Jasper Pittard
20. Matt Jaensch
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Not sure how Carlisle gets the nod over Talia? Talia won the Rising Star award, is an All Australian and won Adelaides B&F in 2014. Top 5 for me:
1. Fyfe
2. Talia
3. Martin
4. Gunston
5. Carlisle
*Duncan unlucky to miss out.
1. Fyfe
2. Talia
3. Martin
4. Gunston
5. Carlisle
*Duncan unlucky to miss out.
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Bit of an issue there mate. This is the 2009 AFL draft which includes the 2010 Preseason Draft.
Rockliff was taken in the 2009 PRE SEASON Draft (which is the same draft class as the 2008 AFL Draft).
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Gawn was our best pick, except that Trengove's injuries have had a major impact.
But you're right, coaching and development is very important
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No
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Casboult could be good in his role like big Earl Spalding who was a dodgy kick and average mark, yet Reid, Black, Christensen, Jetta, etc. are better footballers.
What has happened to Bastinac?
You can't believe in karma if the likes of Daniel Menzel and Kreuzer have been struck down by injuries.
Menzel deserves to be on the list.
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1. Nat Fyfe
2. Ben Cunnington
3. Dustin Martin
4. Jack Gunston
5. Michael Barlow
6. Mitch Duncan
7. Allen Christenson
8 Daniel Talia
9. Lewis Jetta
10. Ryan Bastinac
2. Ben Cunnington
3. Dustin Martin
4. Jack Gunston
5. Michael Barlow
6. Mitch Duncan
7. Allen Christenson
8 Daniel Talia
9. Lewis Jetta
10. Ryan Bastinac
sregit
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Cunnington at 2. You must kidding. Talk about bias.
1 Fyfe
2 Talia.. Maybe the most valuable of all. Best CHB in the game.
3 Gunston & Martin... Duncan not rated in top 3 or 4 as he tends to be injury prone... But very talented.
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Until Martin plays well in finals, you have to have Cunnington ahead. Been very good in his 4 finals.
He's been a slower burn, but is built for finals footy and it shows.
Martin is better than Cotchin though if it helps you sleep at night.
He's been a slower burn, but is built for finals footy and it shows.
Martin is better than Cotchin though if it helps you sleep at night.
Token what about my team player's post but you couldn't find room for Jake Carlisle in there when you've got Ryan Bastinac?
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6 months of ok footy versus 5 years of ok footy.
Played some good games has carlisle, but so has bastinac.
Played some good games has carlisle, but so has bastinac.
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Carlisle is far better than Bastinac lets not be stupid. He is only behind Fyfe from 2009.
Agree with the first sentence, second one much more debatable. Talia has outperformed Jake to date but had Carlisle been settled in one spot maybe this would be different. Cunnington, Martin, Gunston & Barlow have all had periods where they would be comfortably considered better players than Jake. Think on potential he's in the top couple from this draft, on output in the 5-8 range.
You're talking about Mitch Duncan right? He the only one of our kids from that draft who hasn't had his career plagued by injury, he's played 92 our of the clubs last 97 games.
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Basti has kicked more goals than him and had 4x400+ possession seasons one 1x 500+.
He has claims on being up there. Has a 44 possession game to his credit and multiple games of 3-4 goals and 30+ possessions, definitely an underrated career.
He has claims on being up there. Has a 44 possession game to his credit and multiple games of 3-4 goals and 30+ possessions, definitely an underrated career.
Bastinac has played 36 more games, Carlisle has played half his career at FB, it's understandable he would've kicked more total goals but he averages less per game. Jake has more brownlow votes and has played 2 harder positions (FB/CHF) than Bastinac (outside receiver)
Bastinac is value for where he was picked but nobody other than the most ardent North fans and staunch Essendon haters would take him over Carlisle now or into the future.
