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Nah, our camps provide enough for me to end up a mental basket case. But thanks for the offer
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Nah, our camps provide enough for me to end up a mental basket case. But thanks for the offer
Free medical, free food, free house to live in. How on earth do they survive?
If mental health is the biggest issue for refugees in our camps we are doing pretty bloody well.
Again - our refugees are better off than 99% of other refugees around the word. So why exactly is this something for the Hague to deal with? (other than for you guys to jack off about how Abbott will end up in prison)
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I would say both are.
our coast line is indefensible, that's why so many boats got through the net.
The boats basically stopped as soon as we said, you will not get to Australia, you will be processed off-shore. And that was a Labor party policy.
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So towing back the boats, etc, isn't needed?
The inhumane conditions aren't needed?
The operation sovereign borders, isn't needed?
All that is needed to stop the boats, is offshore processing?
I can see why it's self-explanatory if you only have half a brain...
Here is the thing... If we are going to continue scouring the skys and seas, making sure that any boats with asylum seekers that come anywhere near us are sent back. Why don't we take the existing asylum seekers, and process them onshore?
We find a small percent of them aren't genuine asylum seekers, and we don't accept them. So what?
Just because the country they originated from refuses to take them, doesn't mean we won't piss them off to somewhere else.
Morrison and Brandis have all the power they want. You think it would cause them any problems to send a handful off to Sri Lanka instead of Afghanistan?
Morrison can now make the final decision on the legitimacy of someone's need for protection, without having to explain his decision... and it is forbidden to question it due to national security.
The high court can't touch him, the UN can't touch him. You think onshore processing would be a problem?
Towing the boats back doesn't make a different in imho. There are no "inhumane" conditions. We treat these queue-jumpers better than 99% of refugees in the world.
I would suggest it is 95% of the reason.
Now you are departing from logic. The point is that processing off-shore is achieving 95% of the effects. Suddenly processing them onshore means they will flood in again.
Onshore processing is why people take risky trips on unsafe boats. We stopped that and the boats stopped. Off-shore processing is the way of the future.
There are plenty of genuine asylum seekers sitting in Indonesia waiting their turn. We should be taking them.
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So... What were we putting in all those orange life boats?
What was Indonesia pissed off at us about? Something about entering their territorial waters...
You think that that contributes for 5% of the effect of stopping boats reaching Australia?
Has PNG agreed to resettle the asylum seekers? I don't actually know... The last I heard, they said point blank they refused to. So we are still stuck with a handful of people who have been found to not be legitimate asylum seekers, and refuse to return to their original country.
So, what, keep them locked up forever?
If it's the offshore processing, that is doing 95% of the work. Why are we spending so much on everything else?
Why can't we have a good and complete medical facility at the detention centres?
Why can't we have medical services, that stop a man from dying of a cut on his foot... because he has to wait a month to see the doctor?
If it's all the offshore processing, let's cut the money from the coast surveillance, and smash some of it into health.
Noone in Australia could give a stuff what Indonesia thinks.
they are criminals. If they don't want to go back to their original country then they can stay locked up forever. If we have assessed them and they are fine then why are they refusing to leave?
we still need to maintain our coast line. And i'm sure as the drop off in boats becomes permenant then we can dial them back. But we need the coast guard for now, since we don't exactly want the boats showing up in Perth do we?
We do the best we can, in a difficult situation. He put himself in that situation by arriving here illegally.
We still need coast surveillance.
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Poor mental health kills. As for free medical, you're not completely knowledgeable on the issue are you
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Just because a situation can be worse, doesn't make that situation any better.
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You do know that Labor passed these anti-terrorism laws without question. Both parties will one day have to face the music over these freedom destroying laws.
these people are staying of their own choice. The plane back to where they come from is available. Maybe if they didn't ditch their paperwork when they arrive they wouldn't spend so much time while we chase it up.
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S'pose you're right. Two choices: indefinite detention or possible torture and death. Of course it's a decision you'll never have to make, you're just happy to sit there at your keyboard and take potshots and make incredibly lame jokes. These people have more gutz than you could ever muster
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Reckon there's a few windows in the Perth locale that need lickin'. Off ya go
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