Swans Best 22 after round 9

[SouthSwans]

In defense of SS, he qualified it by saying that he thinks Matthews is in the best 25, not best 22. I'd pay that. If a hard bodied midfielder drops, Matthews wouldn't be a bad compromise.

Thats exactly what I'm saying, I'm not saying he should start in the guts roving Jolly, I'm saying if some of ours players get struck by injury or suspension then he would be 3rd or 4th in line to take their place.

 

[MF]

it looks as though this thread has stimulated some constructive argument/criticism, which to be honest was the intent. The swans board (no offence) can at times be a big love in, which isnt the best thing for a forum.

Shut your hole matt

 

[Maddhew]

F"*"k off then ________

 

[MF]

Okay, heres my best 22. Obviously not all players would line up in the exact position named however these are the 22 that I think we have our best chance of winning with.

B: Richards C. Bolton Leo
HB: Kennelly LRT Mattner
C: Malceski Kirk McVeigh
HF: Barlow Hall O'keefe
F: Bevan O'Loughlin Moore
Fo: Jolly Goodes J. Bolton
I: Everitt Buchanan Jack Ablett

Emg: Davis, Fosdike, Playfair, Matthews

 

[rancidpants13]

F"*"k off then ________

c'mon, i think this board needs a big group hug

 

[Hooley McBoob]

Okay, heres my best 22. Obviously not all players would line up in the exact position named however these are the 22 that I think we have our best chance of winning with.

B: Richards C. Bolton Leo
HB: Kennelly LRT Mattner
C: Malceski Kirk McVeigh
HF: Barlow Hall O'keefe
F: Bevan O'Loughlin Moore
Fo: Jolly Goodes J. Bolton
I: Everitt Buchanan Jack Ablett

Emg: Davis, Fosdike, Playfair, Matthews

Hmmm. Interesting. No Bird in your top 25? It's a tough one isn't it. I guess we are lucky we have some depth in our side at the moment, there would be close to 30 guys pushing for a spot (forgetting injuries, of course).

I would have to have Playfair and Davis in the 22, not sure who I would drop though. Maybe Everitt? And I'd go Bird over Matthews (sorry Tom).

Can I open a can of worms here...how valuable is Barry Hall to our side? In my opinion, it is great to have a target like him up forward, but he just takes up too much room. He cracks the shits when other players lead into his space, and we rarely see him, O'Keefe and O'Loughlin all play very well in a single game. Usually O'Keefe and MOL lose out to Hall's demand for space, which means that if he plays badly, we will generally lose.

I would much rather see O'Keefe and MOL given some room - like they have been lately with Baz suspended - with some midfielders/smaller forwards contributing a couple of goals each as well, rather than a single target up forward who isn't very reliable.

Okay, that's it, I'm preparing myself for the criticism...

 

[rancidpants13]

Hmmm. Interesting. No Bird in your top 25? It's a tough one isn't it. I guess we are lucky we have some depth in our side at the moment, there would be close to 30 guys pushing for a spot (forgetting injuries, of course).

I would have to have Playfair and Davis in the 22, not sure who I would drop though. Maybe Everitt? And I'd go Bird over Matthews (sorry Tom).

Can I open a can of worms here...how valuable is Barry Hall to our side? In my opinion, it is great to have a target like him up forward, but he just takes up too much room. He cracks the shits when other players lead into his space, and we rarely see him, O'Keefe and O'Loughlin all play very well in a single game. Usually O'Keefe and MOL lose out to Hall's demand for space, which means that if he plays badly, we will generally lose.

I would much rather see O'Keefe and MOL given some room - like they have been lately with Baz suspended - with some midfielders/smaller forwards contributing a couple of goals each as well, rather than a single target up forward who isn't very reliable.

Okay, that's it, I'm preparing myself for the criticism...

it's your opinion, so fair enough
and i think you'd have had a lot more agreement last season, but this year he's been so much better (fitter, been holding marks, even been getting some air time)
it's players around him NOT being too hall-conscious, which really hurt last year
we were going real well before his stakerwhack, and then we looked a bit lost, but y'can't deny he's a vital player when he's in the form he was in earlier this season
at this stage i can't see davis getting back any time soon, he'll now suffer the same way mathews is ... ie, there are more players (younger, hungrier) getting in the queue ahead of him to step up when players in the 22 are hurt or dropped
i don't think there's any way we can fit hall, davis AND playfair in, unless it's by playing davis and playfair away from the forwards, which seems unlikely, certainly in davo's case
but i certainly agree we have depth at the moment that we've not had for years, it's fantastic and a kick in the bollocks to anyone who predicted we'd slide because of a lack of depth/young talent

 

[footyfan_25]

I agree on Bird needing to be dropped to the reserves for a few games, he isnt a Rioli/Selwood type player who can play at AFL level straight up. But as we have seen with Moore/Schimdt(jury still out) it can take time for young players to come good. Full props to roosey for giving him a go early.

He has given Bird a go by selecting him, but has not given him much opportunity during the game. Only been getting around 50% game time so far. In saying that the time he has been on he has found enough of the ball.

Any reason for the lack of game time?

 

[MF]

He has given Bird a go by selecting him, but has not given him much opportunity during the game. Only been getting around 50% game time so far. In saying that the time he has been on he has found enough of the ball.

Any reason for the lack of game time?

My guess would be fitness. He's the first 1st year player to come straight into the lineup for quite some time and the difference in the level of fitness required to run out an AFL game compared to an under 18's comp would be enormous. He's doing a fantastic job for a 19 year old but I think he needs to spend some time in the twos developing.