Can you define Wharfie Time?

[Geoff]

And im sure Pav and the rest of the boys that day werent regular visitors or workers on the wharf at any stage during the 1970's, giving that comment little relevancy to them other than being an emotionally falsified catchcry aimed at rallying the troops.



Going back for as long as you want, the wharves are and were substantially about Unionisation, and the inherent reason for the existance of Union's being to enable one to look after themselves by using the umbrella of others.

I worked on the wharf in my younger days.

It's all well and good having a catchcry on gameday, but i think it'd be great if it was one that actually had tangible meaning to the players, if only for the sake of inspiration.

What the **** is it with these new recruits? Muffin the OP posed a question to the board and I gave an explanation as to what I believe the term "MAY" refer to and all of a sudden it's a key board war. Who the **** did I offend? Remind me not to comment on any threads in the future will you.

 

[T-D-J]

I always thought it was a tongue in cheek gee-up Pav gave as he knew the huddle was miked up, you could see it on McPharlin's face, very big smirk. And I think thats why I like it, it shows a bit of humour, a bit of wink to the supporters, and its a good catch cry that relates to the club rather than "c'mon boys, fire up!" or something else generic.

 

[IAMJUNGLEMUFFIN]

What the **** is it with these new recruits? Muffin the OP posed a question to the board and I gave an explanation as to what I believe the term "MAY" refer to and all of a sudden it's a key board war. Who the **** did I offend? Remind me not to comment on any threads in the future will you.

Chillax mate, theres no need to get upset, there was no keyboard war.

I made a post which was addressing a sub discussion in this thread about the awesomeness of the whole Warfie Time statement. As far as i can see, we weren't really talking about the same topic (i was discussing the quality of Pav's rev up, and you the historical origins of our club and its culture), and weren't really addressing each other. You've then directed a statement at me (which i have no problem with whatsoever) and ive simply replied to convey my opinion that the notion of Warfie Time isn't likely to garner an honest and passionate emotional reaction, of the sort likely to put a match winning fire into the hearts of players.

There's nothing to get upset about hey.

 

[blue gunslinger]

I personally liked this term as soon as Pavlich uttered it last year, but does it mean...?

Can Fremantle members/supporters/posters define what exactly
Wharfie Time could mean or has meant or may mean in the future...

Can Wharfie Time become a mission statement such as <8% or GTFO has on the Freo' boards ??

wharfie time fury- dropping a package off at the wharf = dropping the kids off at the pool= passing some legislation thru the senate
are you with me?
The whole situation is another example of TV intrusion on the game making it more like Bold & the Beautiful every season.
Just play footy hard all the time.

 

[The Purple Sox]

Chillax mate, theres no need to get upset, there was no keyboard war.

I made a post which was addressing a sub discussion in this thread about the awesomeness of the whole Warfie Time statement. As far as i can see, we weren't really talking about the same topic (i was discussing the quality of Pav's rev up, and you the historical origins of our club and its culture), and weren't really addressing each other. You've then directed a statement at me (which i have no problem with whatsoever) and ive simply replied to convey my opinion that the notion of Warfie Time isn't likely to garner an honest and passionate emotional reaction, of the sort likely to put a match winning fire into the hearts of players.

There's nothing to get upset about hey.

JungleMuff, what I'm about to say is predicated on ther assumption that you are not an AFL footballer listed with The Fremantle Football Club during the 2009 AFL season. If you were on th playing list last year, then please excuse the following comments.

How can you tell what "wharfie time" does or does not mean to the players unless you spent the seaosn with them?

For all you know, the Dockers spend an hour every day at training reviewing historical footage of the Fremantle docks, and have periodic seminars from ex-dock workers about the hardship of 'The Wharfie'.

It could be that "Wharfie Time" is an incredibly meaningful expression of a hard-work ethic that drives those players every day of the week.

Here's a suggestion. Lets all stop pretending we know what it's like to be part of he football department, and speak for ourselves.

Just ourselves, football suporters.
NightFury (correct me if I'm wrong) was after a supporters opinion.
So lets stick with those.

As a supporter I thought it was a bit of a show for the microphones, But none-the-less I like the idea. It conjures a nostalgic idea of "the good old days" when things got done by "hard work".
Narratives like that have little basis in fact, an JungleMuff proved, but that doesn't stop them from being useful in inspiring work ethic.

I like it.



works better than "get your superman capes on" anyway...

 

[The Night Shift]

wharfie time fury- dropping a package off at the wharf = dropping the kids off at the pool= passing some legislation thru the senate
are you with me?
The whole situation is another example of TV intrusion on the game making it more like Bold & the Beautiful every season.
Just play footy hard all the time.

I can empathise.. That could be wifie time as well.. as mentioned somewhere in an earlier post.

NightFury (correct me if I'm wrong) was after a supporters opinion.

That was what I was thinking at the time however there is no restrictions on defining the term...

I like it, it cracks me up... but I can appreciate how others might not like wharfie time being tied to FFC. Pavlich has uttered the phrase now so I guess it's linked now...

What about the superman capes?

 

[IAMJUNGLEMUFFIN]

JungleMuff, what I'm about to say is predicated on ther assumption that you are not an AFL footballer listed with The Fremantle Football Club during the 2009 AFL season. If you were on th playing list last year, then please excuse the following comments.

How can you tell what "wharfie time" does or does not mean to the players unless you spent the seaosn with them?

For all you know, the Dockers spend an hour every day at training reviewing historical footage of the Fremantle docks, and have periodic seminars from ex-dock workers about the hardship of 'The Wharfie'.

It could be that "Wharfie Time" is an incredibly meaningful expression of a hard-work ethic that drives those players every day of the week.

Here's a suggestion. Lets all stop pretending we know what it's like to be part of he football department, and speak for ourselves.

Just ourselves, football suporters.
NightFury (correct me if I'm wrong) was after a supporters opinion.
So lets stick with those.

As a supporter I thought it was a bit of a show for the microphones, But none-the-less I like the idea. It conjures a nostalgic idea of "the good old days" when things got done by "hard work".
Narratives like that have little basis in fact, an JungleMuff proved, but that doesn't stop them from being useful in inspiring work ethic.

I like it.



works better than "get your superman capes on" anyway...

The statements i have made are based on gross assumptions and opinions based on the limited information i have gleaned from being a Fremantle supporter for the past 2 decades.

You're right, for all i know they could sit around watching hours of Wharfie docco's pre and post training, now i may be wrong here, but im assuming they don't.

Wharfie Time could be a hugely meaningfull expression to the playing group, and could have been so for the past 15 years. Again, another gross assumption here, but i dont think thats the case.

As for speaking for the football department, my apologies. As i know noone from inside the club, i can only express my own opinions with regards to this thread. I believe i was doing so. If my opinions and statements are making the appearance of my stance somewhat confusing, no problemo, i'll put up a disclaimer at the opening of all my posts, making it quite clear that these opinions are my own, and not that of the Fremantle Football club.

An internet forum being a place to express ones opinions and all, i probably should give it a try.....

You are right, NF asked for opinions on the topic. As i wasn't the only one commenting on the effect the Wharfie Time statement had on myself as an individual, i feel expressing my opinion on the topic was more than fair.

With regards to working better than a superman cape, that is somewhat questionable.

 

[GeorgeGrljusich]

You are all doing it wrong.
Surely the term should be "Docker Time"
After all, most of you argued most vociferously in favour of the word.

 

[DrJon]

Thanks for the dazzling input GG.

 

[GeorgeGrljusich]

Thanks for the dazzling input GG.

Did you or didn't you claim it as the most fantabulous term ever?

 

[The Purple Sox]

all right JungleMuff. I'm sorry.

words typed in anger...
I know you're not the type to spout bollocks, it just gets my back up when people say "such-and-such is meaningless".
just becasue it's meanignles to one person, doesn't mean it's meaningless to all.
I have no idea what an "electrolyte" is, and i have a feeling 9 out of 10 AFL players haven't a clue either.
But if Pav says "get some eloctrolytes into you, boys" then it may well have a positive effect on those boys. It may have the desired result.

but, given we lost to Hawthorn, I'm prepared to admit that you might be right JM, maybe it's just Weasel Words.

 

[DrJon]

Did you or didn't you claim it as the most fantabulous term ever?

GG, while I like the term "Dockers" as a nickname and think it's far far better than the alternatives suggested (hello Bullsharks!! ) I was merely defending the club in the face of your rant about how the clubs continued association with the word Dockers 'made us look like complete muppets'

The fact that a number of clubs in different countries, speaking different languages and using differing terms for those people that work on ships in ports and harbours have adopted the 'Dockers' moniker and sought to become associated with Freo, even since the Levi Strauss action shows this is a view not widely held. In fact, the 'muppet' accusation is usually levied by a) Eagles fans wanting to have a dig and b) Freo fans that want to change everything about the club, from the jumper, to the song and the colours, and use the fact that we can't plaster 'Dockers' on our merchandise as an excuse for these changes.

In regards "Wharfie Time" I guess this was an attempt by the captain to engender an all for one spirit among the players, in an informal way, similar to the 'Bloods' spirit created successfully by the Swans leadership group.

 

[Geoff]

GG, while I like the term "Dockers" as a nickname and think it's far far better than the alternatives suggested (hello Bullsharks!! ) I was merely defending the club in the face of your rant about how the clubs continued association with the word Dockers 'made us look like complete muppets'

The fact that a number of clubs in different countries, speaking different languages and using differing terms for those people that work on ships in ports and harbours have adopted the 'Dockers' moniker and sought to become associated with Freo, even since the Levi Strauss action shows this is a view not widely held. In fact, the 'muppet' accusation is usually levied by a) Eagles fans wanting to have a dig and b) Freo fans that want to change everything about the club, from the jumper, to the song and the colours, and use the fact that we can't plaster 'Dockers' on our merchandise as an excuse for these changes.

In regards "Wharfie Time" I guess this was an attempt by the captain to engender an all for one spirit among the players, in an informal way, similar to the 'Bloods' spirit created successfully by the Swans leadership group.

 

[Freo Blood]

To me Wharfie time means run out and the field then have a cuppa, cover for your mate while he has a sleep, have twice as many people than required to do the job, complain to your boss because the works to dirty, knock off early and go to the strippers, catch a taxi home and charge your employer for the double time, taxi and meal break. Hopefully thats not what Pav and the boys think of it.
I hope I never hear it again.

 

[GeorgeGrljusich]

We go from this..

GG, while I like the term "Dockers" as a nickname and think it's far far better than the alternatives suggested (hello Bullsharks!! ) I was merely defending the club in the face of your rant about how the clubs continued association with the word Dockers 'made us look like complete muppets'

The fact that a number of clubs in different countries, speaking different languages and using differing terms for those people that work on ships in ports and harbours have adopted the 'Dockers' moniker and sought to become associated with Freo, even since the Levi Strauss action shows this is a view not widely held. In fact, the 'muppet' accusation is usually levied by a) Eagles fans wanting to have a dig and b) Freo fans that want to change everything about the club, from the jumper, to the song and the colours, and use the fact that we can't plaster 'Dockers' on our merchandise as an excuse for these changes.

In regards "Wharfie Time" I guess this was an attempt by the captain to engender an all for one spirit among the players, in an informal way, similar to the 'Bloods' spirit created successfully by the Swans leadership group.

To this....

To me Wharfie time means run out and the field then have a cuppa, cover for your mate while he has a sleep, have twice as many people than required to do the job, complain to your boss because the works to dirty, knock off early and go to the strippers, catch a taxi home and charge your employer for the double time, taxi and meal break. Hopefully thats not what Pav and the boys think of it.
I hope I never hear it again.

I'll take B thanks Eddie.

 

[Geoff]

We go from this..





To this....





I'll take B thanks Eddie.

 

[E Shed]

To me Wharfie time means run out and the field then have a cuppa, cover for your mate while he has a sleep, have twice as many people than required to do the job, complain to your boss because the works to dirty, knock off early and go to the strippers, catch a taxi home and charge your employer for the double time, taxi and meal break. Hopefully thats not what Pav and the boys think of it.
I hope I never hear it again.

This. My Dad was a wharfie and one of my mates used to work at the port. He often went to work at midnight stoned, slept all night in his car, drove home in the morning and got double time and a day off in lieu for it. Admittedly if something went wrong with a crane in the middle of the night in the middle of winter he would be obliged to fix it asap but most of the time it seemed a bit of a lap.
As for my dad, he died when I was quite young but I remember he was always bringing us presents that "fell of the back of trucks" or handing our money that he won on a sure thing at the track one of the boys knew about. He seemed to belong to every single club in Freo and know everyone in The West End. Seemed like a pretty good job back in the day.

 

[GeorgeGrljusich]

If you keep up with all of these long winded rebuttals you will break the server and the chickens will escape.

 

[IAMJUNGLEMUFFIN]

GG, while I like the term "Dockers" as a nickname and think it's far far better than the alternatives suggested (hello Bullsharks!! )

hahahahahaha this pic so cracks me up

xD

 

[Dyslexic Emo]

Wharfie Time = Round 1 2010 Fremantle vs Adelaide

 

[summerthebat]

Haha, I remember going to the wharf for a photo assignment when I was about 19, I knew the guy I was 'shooting' from his days drinking at the railway hotel. On the wharf this guy was more or less 'king of the wharf'.

He led me into his 'office' which was a shipping container made into a small house, with kitchen, bedroom and living room. He basically lived there when he went to work and was paid to more or less be at home, as the senior wharfie he was entitled to being in that position.

I guess that's wharfie time.