Mark Neeld - Big tick

[dee64]

Jesus Christ, im loving the enthusiasm, but dont forget how impressive dean bailey was infront of the media.

Yeah, I was initially sucked in by Bailey. At his 1st presser he outlined that we'd be mad not to utilise our marking strength up forward (Neitz, Holland, Robbo). Then he adopts a gameplan that does the opposite.

Somehow I think that Neeld has greater strength of conviction than Bailey, and won't use "development" as an excuse for poor results. He'll be results driven, and won't babble on about "winning quarters" or "being competitive".

Unlike others, I believe that the pre-season games will be a good barometer as to the impact that Neeld has had on the team.

 

[Topkent]

Yeah, I was initially sucked in by Bailey. At his 1st presser he outlined that we'd be mad not to utilise our marking strength up forward (Neitz, Holland, Robbo). Then he adopts a gameplan that does the opposite.

Somehow I think that Neeld has greater strength of conviction than Bailey, and won't use "development" as an excuse for poor results. He'll be results driven, and won't babble on about "winning quarters" or "being competitive".

Unlike others, I believe that the pre-season games will be a good barometer as to the impact that Neeld has had on the team.

Really depends, if we are as far back as i think we are it may take 6 months or half a season for us to click. Or we might go essendon style and completely turn our selves around.

No way will go West Coast Style

Tell me who is the better group?
Green, Davey, Sylvia, Moloney, Jamar, Rivers

Cox, Embley, Lynch, Glass, Kerr, Priddis

Your talking about WC's multiple all australians against a bunch of overrated under achievers.

 

[DeeWong6996]

Really depends, if we are as far back as i think we are it may take 6 months or half a season for us to click. Or we might go essendon style and completely turn our selves around.

No way will go West Coast Style

Tell me who is the better group?
Green, Davey, Sylvia, Moloney, Jamar, Rivers

Cox, Embley, Lynch, Glass, Kerr, Priddis

Your talking about WC's multiple all australians against a bunch of overrated under achievers.

Jamar = Cox
Green 2010 = Lynch
Davey < Embley
Moloney = Priddis
Sylvia = Kerr
Rivers < Glass

We aren't as bad as you make out. A little optimism please?

 

[dee64]

Really depends, if we are as far back as i think we are it may take 6 months or half a season for us to click. Or we might go essendon style and completely turn our selves around.

No way will go West Coast Style

Tell me who is the better group?
Green, Davey, Sylvia, Moloney, Jamar, Rivers

Cox, Embley, Lynch, Glass, Kerr, Priddis

Your talking about WC's multiple all australians against a bunch of overrated under achievers.

I agree that we won't achieve what WCE did, but we should be aspiring to play finals like the Bombers. And our list is more than comparable with Essendon.

IMO, the club set the benchmark too low under Bailey, and the team played accordingly. I don't think that we are as far back as our performances this season suggest.

 

[Topkent]

Jamar = Cox
Green 2010 = Lynch
Davey < Embley
Moloney = Priddis
Sylvia = Kerr
Rivers < Glass

We aren't as bad as you make out. A little optimism please?

Your kidding right?

Cox >> than Jamar, Jamars seriously had 1 good season. How Many AA's does Cox Have.
Green<< Lynch You cant have 1 season as your base against another player which is the point. 1 good season doesnt make a career also Greens well past his best, Lynch is back to his
Embley >> Davey Norm Smith Medallist v bloke who had 2 good years as a loose man.
Moloney = Priddis, this i can agree with but Priddis has done it against the best Moloney has beat up all the lower ranked opposition.
Sylvia << Kerr, Sylvia has the potential to be as good as Kerr but Kerr has done it time and time again and nearly won a brownlow, Sylvia is a wasted talent to date who has been no more than a flat track Bully.
Glass >> Rivers... Enough said.


Dee64 i Agree with your sentiments, We set the bar so low that we basically put no pressure or expectation on the team and they coasted accordingly. IMO our list is better than Essendon but certainly not on current output.

 

[DeeWong6996]

Your kidding right?

Cox >> than Jamar, Jamars seriously had 1 good season. How Many AA's does Cox Have.
Green<< Lynch You cant have 1 season as your base against another player which is the point. 1 good season doesnt make a career also Greens well past his best, Lynch is back to his
Embley >> Davey Norm Smith Medallist v bloke who had 2 good years as a loose man.
Moloney = Priddis, this i can agree with but Priddis has done it against the best Moloney has beat up all the lower ranked opposition.
Sylvia << Kerr, Sylvia has the potential to be as good as Kerr but Kerr has done it time and time again and nearly won a brownlow, Sylvia is a wasted talent to date who has been no more than a flat track Bully.
Glass >> Rivers... Enough said.

One of the reasons behind West Coast's improvement was their ruck duo...

Our ruck stocks are pretty impressive IMO. Jamar is a late bloomer who suffered from injury this year. A full preseason and I don't see any reason why he can't replicate his AA form. Martin is also an incredible back up ruck. Whilst I concede he his no Nic-Nat, he is still very mobile and athletic. Jamar-Martin at their best can't be far from Cox-Natinui

Secondly, they were able to get so much improvement out of their senior players

Melbourne only has a handful of players over 100 games so comparing our so called "seniors" with their "premiership winning" players is outofthisworld unfair. 2010 Green and 2009 Davey can certainly match up with the likes of Lynch+Embley.

Lastly, their young guns were crazy good

Melbourne has a great pool of young talent. Blease, Grimes, Trengrove, Gysberts, Tapscott, Watts etc. A full preseason and they would definitely >>> Darling, Shuey, Kennedy etc etc etc.

 

[RandB]

Jeez, Neeld speaks well. No fluff, straight bat and gives the punters what they want to hear without divulging too much. If you were a sponsor you'd be pretty happy with your logo in the background when he talks.

 

[Topkent]

Jamar = Cox
Green 2010 = Lynch
Davey < Embley
Moloney = Priddis
Sylvia = Kerr
Rivers < Glass

We aren't as bad as you make out. A little optimism please?

Secondly, they were able to get so much improvement out of their senior players

Melbourne only has a handful of players over 100 games so comparing our so called "seniors" with their "premiership winning" players is outofthisworld unfair. 2010 Green and 2009 Davey can certainly match up with the likes of Lynch+Embley.

Seriously mate....

Im very happy with where our club is at bar 1 or 2 ACTUAL leaders but ya just contradicted yourself 4 posts apart

2010 Green and 2009 Davey 1 season players do not match up with Embleys Norm Smith Medal. Until our senior players produce big games IN big games they will continue to haveno respect in the footy world. Some of ouor supporters continue to look at Davey Green Rivers Sylvia like they are top 50 AFL players when in reality other supporters dont. In fact on Proven output in big games, i wouldnt have any of our players in the top 50 in the AFL.

 

[Viney]

I was impressed with Bailey's (seeming) knowledge of football

I was never inspired by Bailey, however.

I feel inspired by what Neeld has to say

And there's no reason why we should temper our enthusiasm

Christ, this is 90% of the problem with our club

Other clubs and supporters expect and demand success

We try and tell ourselves, not to get too carried away, just let it bubble along blah blah blah

Stuff that, I want finals, I want top 4, I want flags

Tired of the club not believing themselves worthy of the flag

 

[dee64]

I was impressed with Bailey's (seeming) knowledge of football

For the life of me I can't fathom how anyone could come up with this opinion.

Initially he adopted a copycat gameplan that didn't suit our list at the time. And whilst other clubs were coming up with alternative gameplans, our supporters were happy to give this bloke 4 years to get a redundant gameplan right.

For future reference to all supporters, it shouldn't take any longer than 6 months to get a gameplan to work.

I'm liking what I'm hearing from Neeld, but I won't be cutting him any slack for poor performances.

 

[Viney]

For the life of me I can't fathom how anyone could come up with this opinion.

Initially he adopted a copycat gameplan that didn't suit our list at the time. And whilst other clubs were coming up with alternative gameplans, our supporters were happy to give this bloke 4 years to get a redundant gameplan right.

For future reference to all supporters, it shouldn't take any longer than 6 months to get a gameplan to work.

I'm liking what I'm hearing from Neeld, but I won't be cutting him any slack for poor performances.

Hence my (seeming)

I was talking about his early days, pre actually coaching a match

He spoke with what seemed to be great knowledge of the game

However, he clearly could not put that into an effective gameplan

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Mark was on SEN this morning, the audio is up on sen.com.au.

 

[Crimson Azure]

Mark was on SEN this morning, the audio is up on sen.com.au.

Interesting to hear that he "expected some players to be walking on egg shells around him for a while until he gets to know him better" & that some are.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Definitely, that's a good thing IMO.

Bailey came off as trying to be too 'chummy' with the boys IMO.

Nothing wrong with being on good terms with the players; but you have to realise that you need to mentor them, push them and punish them.

I think Bailey was a little lacking on the latter two.

 

[vjknight]

Mark was on SEN this morning, the audio is up on sen.com.au.

and telling the bloody story AGAIN about going to brisbane to chase mitch clark. someone tell him to give up on that

and as you might have noticed, all over at pieville wish him & you all the best - more than happy for him to lead you to the promised land.

we'll only take some credit

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Haha, yes the Clark story again.

To be fair he has been asked that question every single time he appears on a talkback show; he's hardly going to say 'I've already told it a dozen times; **** off' is he?

 

[vjknight]

Haha, yes the Clark story again.

To be fair he has been asked that question every single time he appears on a talkback show; he's hardly going to say 'I've already told it a dozen times; **** off' is he?

LOL - youd think mick would have taught him something

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

It would be very funny, I'll give you that.

 

[Viney]

LOL - youd think mick would have taught him something

Mick's been around long enough to be able to tell the media to F off

Wouldn't look to good if a greenhorn was telling them to

 

[00Stinger]

Your kidding right?

Moloney = Priddis, this i can agree with but Priddis has done it against the best Moloney has beat up all the lower ranked opposition.

Your right that BOG against Collingwood when he had about 40 possies and was BOG

 

[Devastating Boris]

Neeld fried Davey tonight on 3aw. Told him he'll be in the vfl if he doesn't do the job he is asked of him. Good stance.

 

[Tulip]

Great article on the MFC site about it:

Says that Flash will play if he fills a role and does it well, if not; then he isn't afraid to drop him

 

[demonfan9]

Have heard off a couple of sources that the players are absolutely hurting from the tough training this pre-season. So good to see they are being driven hard by Neeld and co.

 

[Demon JP]

If anyone finds an audio link to the interview post it up, will be much appreciated

 

[Logger]

http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=126019

Not the audio, but I think it's what HFF was going to post. Close enough to a transcript.