List Mgmt. Player Ages Thread

[Snake Charmer]

1st - Dunstan, Dumont or Marsh
2nd - Garlett, Miller, dewayne Wilson
Last - Dal

Rookie
Wellar
Sam Lloyd - Franskton goal machine!!!
Duscher

 

[Ashton Agar]

1st - Dunstan, Dumont or Marsh
2nd - Garlett, Miller, dewayne Wilson
Last - Dal

Rookie
Wellar
Sam Lloyd - Franskton goal machine!!!
Duscher

1st - Garlett
2nd - Weller
3rd - Dalgleish

Rookie 1 - Sikora
Rookie 2 - Duscher

 

[jsd09]

Aaron Heppell a chance ?

 

[Snake Charmer]

Aaron Heppell a chance ?

Will likely be a rookie or a late pick

 

[eth-dog]

1st - Garlett
2nd - Weller
3rd - Dalgleish

Rookie 1 - Sikora
Rookie 2 - Duscher

nah, this is how you do it:

26: Mitchell Harvey
58: Ben Brown
66: Dalgleish (u/g)

rd:

10: Trent Shinners
28: developmental ruckman (not necessarily Sikora)

 

[Ashton Agar]

nah, this is how you do it:

26: Mitchell Harvey
58: Ben Brown
66: Dalgleish (u/g)

rd:

10: Trent Shinners
28: developmental ruckman (not necessarily Sikora)

You don't want Duscher and Garlett?

I don't know much beyond pick 20 in this draft so I am sort of trying to learn as I go.

 

[Snake Charmer]

Believe or not, Garlett is a very good chance to not be drafted in the main draft. We have to take Lloyd from Franskton people

 

[Ashton Agar]

Believe or not, Garlett is a very good chance to not be drafted in the main draft. We have to take Lloyd from Franskton people

Seems legit.

 

[Yoda_]

Believe or not, Garlett is a very good chance to not be drafted in the main draft. We have to take Lloyd from Franskton people

Daniel Giansiracusa clone!!

 

[eth-dog]

You don't want Duscher and Garlett?

I don't know much beyond pick 20 in this draft so I am sort of trying to learn as I go.

Jobe said no to Garlett last season. I doubt he's changed his mind. So no, I don't want Garlett. Duscher would be behind Chapman, Winderlich, Merrett, Hardingham, Colyer, O'Brien and Kommer as a small forward. No point in getting him, even if he surpasses half of them

 

[BrunoV]

Drafting Gartlett is probably not as much about Gartlett as it was prior to this point of the trade period. We've added a really significant amount of speed/running capacity and quality ball use to the list by signing Dalgleish (to the primary list), Edwards and Aylett. We've also loaded up with flankers in the last few years (see Merrett, Ashby, Gleeson, Edwards and Aylett).

Still yet to be convinced that small forwards are important enough to really target early in a draft. I don't see there being any point persisting with Davey, Dell'Olio or Jetta either when the midfield stint seems so far beyond each of them as the game time would be better spent on the guys referred to above.

There are areas of greater need. The forward stocks have taken a bit of a pounding and we're very light on for rucks with only 2.5 on the list. Inside midfield stocks don't seem to run all that deep anymore (though Kav and Hams probably address this).

I don't think Champan changes anything from a list management perspective.

Thorpe sounds a very interesting proposition and would be a great replacement for Crameri as that bigger flanker but, by the sounds of it, he could be better suited to that midfieldish stint that Crameri didn't look like being able to come to grips with. Reckon this opens up the possibility of Hurley playing back if something goes wrong with Fletcher (as it would be Danhier, ruck, Thorpe and Winderlich/Goddard as marking/leading options) which doesn't otherwise work with the list in the state it is currently in.

Unless Gartlett or someone else is a stand out best available I'd almost certainly take Thorpe (assuming that the hype is reflective of him being on track to fulfill his potential) based purely on need.

A young ruck must be rookied. Would also love for Forrester to be taken on as a long term project.

 

[Yoda_]

Me suggesting us giving up two top 25 players for a top 5 pick is almost as delusional as people suggesting clubs will take Jetta off our hands.

It's just not going to happen

 

[Ashton Agar]

Jobe said no to Garlett last season. I doubt he's changed his mind. So no, I don't want Garlett. Duscher would be behind Chapman, Winderlich, Merrett, Hardingham, Colyer, O'Brien and Kommer as a small forward. No point in getting him, even if he surpasses half of them

Duscher is a midfielder though.

 

[eth-dog]

Duscher is a midfielder though.

Not at AFL level he isn't. He plays midfield/HF in the VFL, which means he simply doesn't have the fitness base to play full time midfield in the AFL. Kommer played full time midfield in the WAFL and was used exclusively as a small forward for us, as he wasn't fit enough. Duscher'd be playing as a small forward

 

[Ashton Agar]

Not at AFL level he isn't. He plays midfield/HF in the VFL, which means he simply doesn't have the fitness base to play full time midfield in the AFL. Kommer played full time midfield in the WAFL and was used exclusively as a small forward for us, as he wasn't fit enough. Duscher'd be playing as a small forward

I see where you are coming from, Although Kommer is a completely different player to Duscher. Kommer isn't really a player you want the ball in his hands that much. He does the defensive stuff well, and thus keeps his spot in the side. His main highlights from the WAFL when we first drafted him was his defensive work. From what I have seen of Duscher, he is someone who uses the ball nicely. VFL players are only semi-professional, and only training once or twice a week. If we could get a full preseason into Benny, he might be able to build his engine play more of a complete midfield game. I think he is an above VFL standard player.

 

[JR95]

#26: Garlett/Jay Kennedy-Harris/Marsh/Harvey
#58: Ruckman
Upgrade Dalgleish.

Rookie

Weller
Ruckman
Justin Van Unen

I would love a Dumont or Reynolds at pick 26 but they will be long gone. Especially Dumont.

 

[Ambrosia]

#26: Garlett/Jay Kennedy-Harris/Marsh/Harvey
#58: Ruckman
Upgrade Dalgleish.

Rookie

Weller
Ruckman
Justin Van Unen

I would love a Dumont or Reynolds at pick 26 but they will be long gone. Especially Dumont.

I can't see us drafting a player straight out of the EFL.

 

[WEEVZ]

What I think we should do is:
NATIONAL DRAFT
#26: Garlett/Jay Kennedy-Harris (If one of those isn't available then the best available KPF or mid/fwd).
#58: Thorp (If he's not available then the best available KPF/Ruck).
#66: Dalgleish (Rookie upgrade).
#84: Pass (To be used in PSD or Rookie Draft).
#102: Pass (To be used in PSD or Rookie Draft).
#120: Pass (To be used in PSD or Rookie Draft).
PRE-SEASON DRAFT
No idea who'll be available.
ROOKIE DRAFT
Probably best to get a KPF and a ruckman (if we get 3 rookie's then a mature-age mid as well).

We'll probably have to either trade/delist a few of the following to generate the list space:
Hardingham, Jetta, Davey, Pears, Steinberg, Dell'Olio.

 

[eth-dog]

What I think we should do is:
NATIONAL DRAFT
#26: Garlett/Jay Kennedy-Harris (If one of those isn't available then the best available KPF or mid/fwd).
#58: Thorp (If he's not available then the best available KPF/Ruck).
#66: Dalgleish (Rookie upgrade).
#84: Pass (To be used in PSD or Rookie Draft).
#102: Pass (To be used in PSD or Rookie Draft).
#120: Pass (To be used in PSD or Rookie Draft).
PRE-SEASON DRAFT
No idea who'll be available.
ROOKIE DRAFT
Probably best to get a KPF and a ruckman (if we get 3 rookie's then a mature-age mid as well).

We'll probably have to either trade/delist a few of the following to generate the list space:
Hardingham, Jetta, Davey, Pears, Steinberg, Dell'Olio.

Hardingham re-signed yesterday. Steinberg and Dell'Olio are rookies, they don't generate the list space...

 

[WEEVZ]

Hardingham re-signed yesterday. Steinberg and Dell'Olio are rookies, they don't generate the list space...

Oh woops my mistake. They still take up space on the rookie list though and I can't really see either of them having an impact at the top level. Would be good to see us add Forrester as a category B rookie as well.

 

[Zach Package]

What I think we should do is:
NATIONAL DRAFT
#26: Garlett/Jay Kennedy-Harris (If one of those isn't available then the best available KPF or mid/fwd).
#58: Thorp (If he's not available then the best available KPF/Ruck).
#66: Dalgleish (Rookie upgrade).
#84: Pass (To be used in PSD or Rookie Draft).
#102: Pass (To be used in PSD or Rookie Draft).
#120: Pass (To be used in PSD or Rookie Draft).
PRE-SEASON DRAFT
No idea who'll be available.
ROOKIE DRAFT
Probably best to get a KPF and a ruckman (if we get 3 rookie's then a mature-age mid as well).

We'll probably have to either trade/delist a few of the following to generate the list space:
Hardingham, Jetta, Davey, Pears, Steinberg, Dell'Olio.

don't think your grasping the psd or rookie draft properly.

at this stage Davey remains unsigned, so operating on the assumption he doesn't come back, then we won't have a psd pick UNLESS we upgrade Dal with 58 and then pass on 66 onwards, so we'd have that extra list space.

Looks like we'll only have 2 rookie picks as well, 1 probably a tall and one a best available (much like Dalgleish himself was in 2011 (we were into Campbell, dal was the reason we didn't draft him, apparently we expected him to be long gone by then)

 

[yaco55]

I reckon we do.

by my count we've got 2 key forwards and then guys like NOB/Winderlich/Chappy/Hardingham.

I'd be drafting a KPF and a mid in the nd and a tall in the rookie draft just to keep the balance of the list

Hit the nail on the head.

Doesn't necessarily have to be a KPF - A defender will be OK.

Kade K and Mitch Thorp interest me as talls.

Have no idea for the midfielder.

Imagine we will go midfielder/Key tall.

 

[yaco55]

i can't believe the obvious crameri trade happened. i just cannot. i thought for sure the bulldogs would be nice.

And produce draft picks out of magic.

 

[rines]

There was a very sensible three way proposition that was being discussed earlier today (involving swaps of second and third round picks but in a way that everything ended up being only slight down grades). My guess it was something like that but that Freo baulked at paying their second round pick to us.

Yeah.. I think the rumoured draft options were probably a lot fairer to all parties.. but WB had us over a barrel and knew it.. so good on them.. but what comes around.. goes around...

Also I think you are right that it might have been Freo that didn't want to budge on 37.. no matter what came back..

Either way.. what is done is done.. and now we can all move on.

26 and 58.. are way unders.. but that is the way the cookie crumbles sometimes.. still think we should let Gumby walk into the PSD.. and then take him before Freo..

 

[yaco55]

Trade Gumby out for 58 and we have 26 and 58 in the ND as live picks. preferably get a midfielder and a tall.

I doubt that Steinberg and Dall'Olio will be on the rookie list in 2014. That means we will have 4 rookies - Assume that one will be a ruck.