* Still missing *Malaysian Airlines plane with 239 on board

[Collingwood 4 eternity]

Makes you wonder now if ACA were onto something with the co-pilot inviting people into the cockpit.

Being a regular overseas and domestic plane traveller pre 9/11 it was no issue at all to ask the flight attendant if you could go up to the cockpit and have a look , had the chance to do it a few times. Even on 1hr Melb Adel , Bris Syd , Syd Mel flights.

But now with the strict flight regulations as they are what the ACA story shows how easy it is.

Any good looking woman or women could be the key to getting into the cockpit , but the guy sitting in aisle seat 2c or 2d getting up to go to the toilet at the same time as the good looking girl , could be the force that cannot be overpowered.

 

[BG32]

In regards to passengers being in the cockpit. As a child on some flights my dad would take me into the cockpit to take a photo with the pilots or just look at the rows and rows of switches. Social engineering can be easily used to get into a cockpit

 

[GOAUS!]

In regards to passengers being in the cockpit. As a child on some flights my dad would take me into the cockpit to take a photo with the pilots or just look at the rows and rows of switches. Social engineering can be easily used to get into a cockpit

Times have changed (how long ago was this).

 

[Smokin]

I'm thinking no better than Malaysia

maybe. If Malaysia dont have a military shield/radar for off the radar attacks - they did not know that the plane flew bck across the country to the Western side - does India have one?

I am not expert in defense shields, but if India cant detect then what would stop the plane being in the Middle East right now? Fuel?

 

[Plugger35]

Yep and that's why I think it's highly plausible that the pilots allowed female passengers into the cockpit of MH370 (just like they did with the Aussie chicks). The female passengers then somehow killed the pilots with their backs turned and finally taking control of the plane.

It's not very hard. Pilots notice attractive females and allow them into the cockpit thinking nothing of it. Just because you're hot does't mean you can't be a terrorist and that's where I think all has gone wrong in this case.

So a couple of hot chicks got on the flight and planned on killing the pilots and hijacking the plane on the off chance the pilots took a fancy to them and invited them into the cockpit?

Seems legit.

 

[grizzlym]

Now, does the term 'hijacking' mean they don;t think it was pilot suicide?

 

[BG32]

Times have changed (how long ago was this).

Early 2000s I'd say. I'm sure now days or a few weeks back pilots would let a child and parent in to take a photo

 

[grizzlym]

Gotta be China then.

Or Togo.

 

[GOAUS!]

Now, does the term 'hijacking' mean they don;t think it was pilot suicide?

Can you hijack your own plane?

 

[kane249]

The other question is, if it was hijacked then how did they manage to subdue the other passengers on board? We saw what happened with 9/11 and United flight 93 with the other passengers on board being able to fight back so how did the manage to keep even more people from rebelling as well?

The passengers on United 93 knew of the other hijacked planes that day and knew they were dead anyway, so perhaps the passengers on this plane weren't as frantic to retake control?

So many unanswered questions on this one

 

[SHAKESPEARE]

Or Togo.

 

[flight23]

Early 2000s I'd say. I'm sure now days or a few weeks back pilots would let a child and parent in to take a photo

was a domestic but my nephews were in the cockpit in November

 

[Crawb]

Wow a Hijacking. Kind really the only thing that makes some kind of sense

 

[SHAKESPEARE]

Can you hijack your own plane?

If you don't own it...yes

 

[Aussie Assault]

Hot birds, hijacking, no trace. Days Of Our Lives script.

 

[davesnothere]

If that hijack scenario played out, whether it was with the willing assistance of the pilots or not, passengers probably wouldn't have any idea they have changed direction or the like. If it was done stealthily that is. Plane flying high in the dead of night, no one is going to know where they are.

You would be very aware you have turned around and wiping off height is very noticeable as well there would be maybe 8 flight attendants who would be wondering what the pilots were doing if it was just the pilots and engineer hijacking the aircraft the passengers would know and you need weapons of some kind otherwise other passengers would beat you up and getting weapons on to the aircraft is another issue. Every form of communication any passenger has had with anyone else they will be checking out computers, phones etc this will also apply to anyone who has had anything to do with the aircraft and flight from security staff to the guys that cleaned the aircraft before take off . No one's claimed reposnsibility and no chatter anywhere on any communications being monitored by the US. It wasn't hijacked.

 

[Crows_United_FC]

So a couple of hot chicks got on the flight and planned on killing the pilots and hijacking the plane on the off chance the pilots took a fancy to them and invited them into the cockpit?

Seems legit.

Why not?? Not all terrorists are men with long beards.

 

[SHAKESPEARE]

Why not?? Not all terrorists are men with long beards.

 

[grizzlym]

Can you hijack your own plane?

I reckon you can. The distinction I was trying to make is that if one or both of the pilots hijacked the plane, for whatever reasons, that's different from a pilot suicide scenario

 

[Aussie Assault]

Why not?? Not all terrorists are men with long beards.

Women with long beards maybe?

 

[Plugger35]

Why not?? Not all terrorists are men with long beards.

Yeah but what if the pilots didn't invite them into the cockpit? I'm sure they wouldn't have done that on every flight.

This flight may not have even had any hot chicks on it, they might have all been fugly mingers.

 

[Crows_United_FC]

Women with long beards maybe?

possibly.

 

[Wayne Arnold]

I think Aaron Sandilands may have eaten it.

 

[grizzlym]

You would be very aware you have turned around and wiping off height is very noticeable as well there would be maybe 8 flight attendants who would be wondering what the pilots were doing if it was just the pilots and engineer hijacking the aircraft the passengers would know and you need weapons of some kind otherwise other passengers would beat you up and getting weapons on to the aircraft is another issue. Every form of communication any passenger has had with anyone else they will be checking out computers, phones etc this will also apply to anyone who has had anything to do with the aircraft and flight from security staff to the guys that cleaned the aircraft before take off . No one's claimed reposnsibility and no chatter anywhere on any communications being monitored by the US. It wasn't hijacked.

Maybe. I've flown a lot, I would never have known if we changed direction or what. Especially on planes in the middle of the night and the like.

Point is, we trust pilots and the like and don't expect stuff like this to happen. We do now, going over the scant information, since it increasingly looks like this is what's happens.

Your point about the crew is a good one.

 

[DT_35]

Maybe they knew the co-pilot had a previous history of letting people into the cockpit and was piloting that flight on that day and took advantage of that info..