Hostage Situation - Martin Place, Sydney

[BEEG]

Geez Melissa Doyle needs a make up break

 

[Sydney Bloods]

Its kinda both.

its also a resturant.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Lol, nice. All I know is there are cameras set up facing the cafe directly with the police are monitoring and not allowing the media to show. Surely we're missing out on quite a bit. They're not all sitting inside the cafe sipping lattes and discussing Steve Smith's selection as Australian captain.

Go watch the opening 10 minutes of Munich and you'll understand why the police aren't letting them show anything.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

There is a chance one could get frustrated and have a go at him...

If it goes down that path it will have to be a co-ordinated effort with a few of the Hostages. Going it alone is just asking for it.

 

[RandB]

Police obviously doing the right thing in asking the media not to release his name but surely it's only a matter of time before it's leaked. Surprised it hasn't happened already. On that front things have gone to plan.

 

[The Passenger]

its also a resturant.

Maybe he just wanted a free feed?

 

[Yidaki]

its also a resturant.

It's also apparently a favourite cafe for terrorists.

 

[scon]

I reckon the negotiators are making progress, won't be long and this guy will be in custody.

Hope you're right and it wouldn't surprise me.
Such a professional handling of this from start and now I hope the finish.
They have said from the start their goal and governing principle is to get a peaceful resolution.
They've been right all the way so far

 

[matty lloyd the champ]

It's the last resort if they shot him 4 hours ago they would cop massive backlash

I have no doubt they could take him out with one shot

Why would there be massive backlash?

The primary goal is to ensure that the hostages are out in one piece.

 

[UnitedWarrior93]

Send in agent 47

Seriously though, it's all about to go down, hope the people inside get out safe, but who knows what's going to happen, imagine if bombs start going off throughout the CBD!!

 

[Stuey7]

Go watch the opening 10 minutes of Munich and you'll understand why the police aren't letting them show anything.

I understand why. It's just frustrating.

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

If it goes down that path it will have to be a co-ordinated effort with a few of the Hostages. Going it alone is just asking for it.

Well you would think that, but you never know how you will act until you are that tired.

But if the hostages were to perceive him as getting frustrated to the point where it was dangerous to them, then they might want to act in a co-ordinated fashion

 

[BEEG]

Why would there be massive backlash?

The primary goal is to ensure that the hostages are out in one piece.

Some of the Muslim community will say that they took the easy way out and didn't do enough you will always have some kind of backlash in these situations

 

[JuddsABlue]

The gunman knows that he has two possible outcomes

He kills one person and dies moments later, or he surrenders

Given hes waited for 12 hours and the police have decided not to move, its pretty clear to them at some point he will surrender unless something changes until then

 

[King Elvis]

Police obviously doing the right thing in asking the media not to release his name but surely it's only a matter of time before it's leaked. Surprised it hasn't happened already. On that front things have gone to plan.

Very surprised.

Some senior Muslim dude is on Sky at present; says this guy is well known to all of them, and something like there will be surprise that he did this, and he's not the type?

 

[DrKrieger]

I think Tool were on the money a few years ago:

"Eye on the TV,
Cause tragedy thrills me,
Whatever flavor it happens to be"

 

[Sydney Bloods]

It's also apparently a favourite cafe for terrorists.

thats why i only go to cafes that serve irish coffee.

 

[RICHOLEGEND12]

If it goes down that path it will have to be a co-ordinated effort with a few of the Hostages. Going it alone is just asking for it.

If shit went down they should be able to take him with hopefully minimum damage. Minimum 10 hostages, one guy (most likely) with a sawn off (most likely), 2 shots before he has to reload. Cops are what 10 seconds from being in the room?

 

[bkozican]

So we still don't know if this is really ISIS related or just a bloke who has the plot ?

 

[BEEG]

The gunman knows that he has two possible outcomes

He kills one person and dies moments later, or he surrenders

Given hes waited for 12 hours and the police have decided not to move, its pretty clear to them at some point he will surrender unless something changes until then

Conspiracy in me coming out could be any reason he hasn't done it yet I don't think he will surrender unfortunately

 

[ManWithNoName]

Well you would think that, but you never know how you will act until you are that tired.

But if the hostages were to perceive him as getting frustrated to the point where it was dangerous to them, then they might want to act in a co-ordinated fashion

They're under the impression he has bombs in the cafe and the CBD. Look how terrified those people running were. They believe it. So suddenly it's not just a matter of "you might die". It's "you might die and cause hundreds/thousands of other deaths too".

 

[Sydney Bloods]

If shit went down they should be able to take him with hopefully minimum damage. Minimum 10 hostages, one guy (most likely) with a sawn off (most likely), 2 shots before he has to reload. Cops are what 10 seconds from being in the room?

if they go in the front door it would take them alot less then that.

 

[Yidaki]

Why don't they get the Cash Cow to do a kamikaze run into the shop?

 

[MJ2014]

they may think stuff this, i dont care anymore, i die i die, better to be shot during asleep than alive

Naah.. Can't imagine that.

 

[NSWCROW]

Some senior Muslim dude is on Sky at present; says this guy is well known to all of them, and something like there will be surprise that he did this, and he's not the type?

Speaking well this guy.