Certified Legendary Thread 34 Essendon* Players suspended for doping violations - No opposition fans. Check OP for thread rules

[Stig O'Hara]

Does that suggest that duelling medical experts are debating the performance enhancing properties of these drugs? If so, they are using the 'drugs shouldn't be banned because they do nothing' defence which shouldn't matter if they had ignored the code that banned them.

Seems that way.

As it goes on and on, and on, and on, and............looks like they are going down the 'was this substance banned at such and such a date. Though it is now banned, it was going through an International Tribunal, so technically there is no breach' bollocks.

These blokes will miss 3 weeks of footy.

 

[Jock]

I spent some time trawling through the ASADA thread over on the Essendon* board last night, following their posts from the past few days. What a dark and dismal place it is where this "common sense and logic" of which you speak are very hard to come by.
When I came back onto the Carlton board it was like emerging from a cold, dark, slimy, grimy cellar into bright sunlight. I felt a need to take a shower to wash the scum from my body.

This is how I felt when Glen Manton was no longer wearing Blue. Cleansed.

 

[thylacine60]

HBF just fell off his crate........

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

HBF just fell off his crate........

Staring wistfully at his fridge magnet...

 

[HBF]

Staring wistfully at his fridge magnet...

Always!!

 

[mediumsizered]

He's referencing the Lynch chronic fatigue case from 15 years ago, strangely enough he represented Lynch and got him off.

It's about Galbally positioning to get his cut if he can while gathering more exposure for the David Galbally QC brand.

Galbally does have a vested interest in the outcome of the tribunal given he acted for The Weapon in his claim against the EFC for wrongful dismissal, remembering that The Weapon was allegedly responsible for recommending Dank to Hird.

 

[Magruder]

Galbally does have a vested interest in the outcome of the tribunal given he acted for The Weapon in his claim against the EFC for wrongful dismissal, remembering that The Weapon was allegedly responsible for recommending Dank to Hird.

Had forgotten that. Ethically does this preclude Galbally acting for any of the parties in the future?

 

[Canyouhearthedrums]

Yeah, he's conflicted now.

 

[HBF]

Pretty sure this is my favourite thread on BF....

 

[Aphrodite]

Pretty sure this is my favourite thread on BF....

Thank the OP

 

[Jabba73]

Pretty sure this is my favourite thread on BF....

That is why it is a Certified Legendary Thread.

 

[ajb72]

better to stay here than go to the HTB. The GG is back and spamming his comments on repeat again.

Its like the Monty Panesar of Big Footy. (explanation being Warnie's comment about how Monty hasn't played 50 tests, he's played the 1 test 50 times. well the gg hasn't posted 10k posts, he has just posted the same 4, 2500 times each).

 

[thylacine60]

That is why it is a Certified Legendary Thread.

Thread has Heritage Listing as well. Pretty sure......

 

[ESKIE]

Love it....bag the scum bag drug cheating loosers thread, its a ripper

Any updates, had a B of a day, need an up lift

 

[Jabba73]

Thread has Heritage Listing as well. Pretty sure......

It has always been a protected species, not on the endagered list as far as I can tell.

 

[Malifice]

Does that suggest that duelling medical experts are debating the performance enhancing properties of these drugs? If so, they are using the 'drugs shouldn't be banned because they do nothing' defence which shouldn't matter if they had ignored the code that banned them.

Its more along the line of 'the drugs don't display the properties sufficiently similar to the substances banned in the WADA Code to result in them falling within the definition of what is prohibited by the code'

So far the best defence I have seen from the players is the effort to have the incriminating evidence thrown out. Which (while it can be quite effective, and is perfectly appropriate for the players to do) is quite damning.

Its the OJ Simpson defence. Get the rubber glove drenched in her blood, and covered in his fingerprints thrown out and the case becomes a circumstantial one.

I'm surprised the players havent also tried to attack a weak spot in the circumstantial chain of that takes the TB4 from China to the players bodies. If they can knock just one rung of that ladder out, then they have a good defence. Thats your problem with circumstantial cases. They need to be strong, and casting enough doubt on even a single step in the circumstances can be enough to make the whole case fall flat.

 

[GCNavyBlue]

Its more along the line of 'the drugs don't display the properties sufficiently similar to the substances banned in the WADA Code to result in them falling within the definition of what is prohibited by the code'

So far the best defence I have seen from the players is the effort to have the incriminating evidence thrown out. Which (while it can be quite effective, and is perfectly appropriate for the players to do) is quite damning.

Its the OJ Simpson defence. Get the rubber glove drenched in her blood, and covered in his fingerprints thrown out and the case becomes a circumstantial one.

I'm surprised the players havent also tried to attack a weak spot in the circumstantial chain of that takes the TB4 from China to the players bodies. If they can knock just one rung of that ladder out, then they have a good defence. Thats your problem with circumstantial cases. They need to be strong, and casting enough doubt on even a single step in the circumstances can be enough to make the whole case fall flat.

Well thanks for the massive downer

Looks like these cheating pricks may well get off. What a waste of 2+ years. Crock o shite

 

[Jabba73]

Article in The Age suggests players are already serving time that will reduce any penalty handed out.

Can't link from my phone.

 

[thylacine60]

Jabba - easy fixed. Write the link down somewhere then fax it to someone with a facsimile machine. Once you get it, get someone who has a CD burner. Burn the link onto a disc then insert disc into a desktop that has internet connection (cable or wifi). You should be able to cut and past onto a clipboard which will allow you to insert it into a word processing program. After that it's just a simple task to highlight/copy/paste - make sure you have both the word processing program open at the same time as BF. Toggle between if you have to. Any problems PM me.

 

[Jabba73]

Jabba - easy fixed. Write the link down somewhere then fax it to someone with a facsimile machine. Once you get it, get someone who has a CD burner. Burn the link onto a disc then insert disc into a desktop that has internet connection (cable or wifi). You should be able to cut and past onto a clipboard which will allow you to insert it into a word processing program. After that it's just a simple task to highlight/copy/past - make sure you have both the word processing program open at the same time as BF. Toggle between if you have to. Any problems PM me.

Thanks Thy, much easier than your last set of instructions that mentioned telegrams and morse code.

 

[Robbo's my hero]

Thread has Heritage Listing as well. Pretty sure......

All that means is the bulldozers will turn up after dark.

 

[MC_Doggy_Frog18]

Can this be over already!

 

[Seen5]

Jabba - easy fixed. Write the link down somewhere then fax it to someone with a facsimile machine. Once you get it, get someone who has a CD burner. Burn the link onto a disc then insert disc into a desktop that has internet connection (cable or wifi). You should be able to cut and past onto a clipboard which will allow you to insert it into a word processing program. After that it's just a simple task to highlight/copy/past - make sure you have both the word processing program open at the same time as BF. Toggle between if you have to. Any problems PM me.

I've got a stack of 5 1/4" floppy's if you need them...

 

[BluStreak]

Can lend you some 3.5in stiffy disc's if you need

 

[Malifice]

Well thanks for the massive downer

Looks like these cheating pricks may well get off. What a waste of 2+ years. Crock o shite

I dont think they will get off. As far as circumstantional cases go, this one is one of the strongest I have seen.

Unless they can cast enough doubt on the 'smoking gun' that is. And from what I have been hearing, the first two days of submissions from their lawyers were pretty much soley focussed on getting key evidence excluded or diminished in reliability.

Rather than saying 'they didnt do it' theyve been focussing on 'the evidence relied on to prove it cant be trusted'.