Play Nice Adam Goodes

[nineteen eighty]

It's clearly getting under his and Sydney's skin why else would Sydney be complaining about it over the past few weeks ? One of the Sydney hierarchy complained about it over twitter, not a very good look.

People paying to watch the spot can cheer for their favourite players, and boo the one's they hate. I don't see you trying to stop them from doing so.

Even Shane Warne thinks Goodes is a world class stage diver!

With regards to Warnie, fantastic cricketer but my left shoe has a greater IQ than him. Not sure using him to substantiate your argument is the way to go.

 

[captain cotch 9]

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According to Goodes' interview this morning, Jetta had planned a simiar dance if he scored a goal.

and he wouldn't of copped any where near as much shit as Goodes has.

 

[The King!]

It's clearly getting under his and Sydney's skin why else would Sydney be complaining about it over the past few weeks ? One of the Sydney hierarchy complained about it over twitter, not a very good look.

People paying to watch the spot can cheer for their favourite players, and boo the one's they hate. I don't see you trying to stop them from doing so.

Even Shane Warne thinks Goodes is a world class stage diver!

Sydney official defends player---- club in crisis

Hawks should of just shut up when clarkson was getting grief over that supporter then too

 

[Kummerspeck]

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Goodes is the same. Photos only some examples.

Why did you include a photo of a Port Adelaide player sliding in at Goodes with his studs up and a photo of Goodes running towards a ball?

 

[Crankyhawk]

Better ask every single person why they boo him then, you might be surprised to find the answer instead of assuming it's racism/aoty related.

I tried to explain and the response was interesting

 

[base615]

I don't need too. If I did state who it was would it make it any more credible in your mind.

You have no way of validating my ancestry so your point is mute.

Fine. You're saying dickheadish things and then, when called out on it you offer your ancestry up as support for why you're allowed to say dickheadish things but don't specify. Don't get angry and call people morons if you're not willing to back it up.

 

[Chief]

How exactly were carlton fans supposed to know it was some traditional aboriginal dance?

If I was in the crowd it would probably look like someone acting aggressively in my direction.

It reminds me of this news item

An act to incite a group of people disguised as a protest.

http://phoenix.suntimes.com/phx-new...rs-will-host-draw-muhammed-contest-at-phoenix

Oh my god - did you just...

Really...

I think you did!

 

[GoodesFella]

This thread still going?

Tell me again how its not racially motivated.

Then again don't, theres a 100+ page thread of white folks bitching as proof.

Eddies dog whistle has stretched far and wide.

And this is why we have Abbott as PM.

 

[CaptainChardonnay]

"Goodes slides" doesn't wash. He's done the time for those "heinous" crimes and the last incident was years ago. The booing didn't start then. If people are using it as an excuse, they should be doing drive by shootings at Lindsay Thomas' house in a daily basis.

 

[CarBigDog]

This thread still going?

Tell me again how its not racially motivated.

Then again don't, theres a 100+ page thread of white folks bitching as proof.

Eddies dog whistle has stretched far and wide.

And this is why we have Abbott as PM.

I hope you see the irony in those two back to back statements.

 

[Debris]

I understand Goodes is fighting for a cause and I support that, but he is not the right person to do it.

The reason why is because, as an individual, he has poor judgement and it ends up discrediting what he is trying to do.

Not only is he a cheap-shot king on the field, but his battles with the crowd are poorly timed and selected.

Instead of selecting an adult to get thrown out of a game for racism, he chooses a 12 year girl who is still developing as a person. Not only at this age are they at their most vulnerable, but they also don't have the mental capacity to handle intense media scrutiny.

And most people are not against a tribal dance, but doing it towards opposition supporters during the game was one of the most bizarre things I have ever seen. The gentleman's way is to request to do it pre-game with a couple of teammates, or maybe in front of your own supporters to celebrate a goal.

If you are actually looking to make change, maybe you don't pick the 50 year old guy who has been a racist all his life. Goodes would not have got this "Won't somebody think of the children" re-action but the chances of Goodes changing that guys ways are pretty remote and it has no effect on public attitudes. Maybe you pick the 13-year-old girl who is still developing and who is starting to think it is ok to throw out a racist remark when hiding in a crowd. A bit of media scrutiny for not ending up racist sounds like a good trade for that girl. This thread alone shows that people are at least discussing the issue.

Goodes does not come off as a heroic figure but maybe he does not give a shit about that or what anyone on this board thinks. He is trying to affect social change and if he becomes a villain in the process, so be it.

 

[Procrastinator35]

This thread still going?

Tell me again how its not racially motivated.

And this is why we have Abbott as PM.

You mean the very same PM, who awarded Goodes the AOTY?

 

[Baltimore Jack]

IMO, Australia, in the main is a racist country.
Our heritage is built on it and we had Public Policy enshrining it in Government decision making up until the late 1960's.

But what is hated even more is being shown just how racist a lot of people really are, because most people like to pretend that they aren't, just as they are pretending now when they say booing Goodes has nothing to do with his skin colour.

 

[Xtreme]

"Goodes slides" doesn't wash. He's done the time for those "heinous" crimes and the last incident was years ago. The booing didn't start then. If people are using it as an excuse, they should be doing drive by shootings at Lindsay Thomas' house in a daily basis.

Well his most recent act against Hawthorn (aside from last week) was punching Bruest in the back in the 2014 grand final.................

And yes Lindsay Thomas is also a weak footballer in that sense have you not been reading posters examples of other players that also don't play football in a true spirit (the same as Goodes).

 

[momentbymoment]

Maybe they will understand the reason why after they see every highlight of him bumping someone too high, going after players legs, faking being hit by a sledgehammer and falling like a demolished building. Not to mention pleding for free kicks and acting like he just discovered Santa wasn't real after being denied.

I understand that no Hawthorn player in the history of the game has ever slid into a tackle, or hit someone high, or played dirty in any way (Dermott will back me up on this).

And that Hawthorn players (like Lake) are totally hard done by at the tribunal (Petrie did try and defend himself before he passed out).

And your great champions like Hodge and Mitchell never EVER play for frees.

But don't you think the vitriol towards Adam last weekend was just a little over the top?

And a little lacking in respect.

 

[GoodesFella]

I understand Goodes is fighting for a cause and I support that, but he is not the right person to do it.

Lets start with a disclaimer, that should clear the path and allow for you to be personal towards him and throw around racial undertones disguised as concern

The reason why is because, as an individual, he has poor judgement and it ends up discrediting what he is trying to do.

Says who? You? Ask any inidginous, if you could be bothered to leave your privilaged confines, what Adam Goodes means to them.

Not only is he a cheap-shot king on the field, but his battles with the crowd are poorly timed and selected.

The last time he did anything remotey dirty on the fieled was when he slid into gibsom, that was 2013. Thats two years ago. A whole 2 seasons. As for diving..as soon as he was lambasted for it he stopped. I watch every game and pay attention to Adam because its his last season..and not once since he was called out, does he play act. There a few players who continue to do it each round and they get a token boo for their first possse..but theres no hivemind in play so the booing stops almost immediately!

Instead of selecting an adult to get thrown out of a game for racism, he chooses a 12 year girl who is still developing as a person. Not only at this age are they at their most vulnerable, but they also don't have the mental capacity to handle intense media scrutiny.

Dude when i was a 12 year old kids in the school playground knew exactly what a boong, aboe etc was.

In fact one of the most popular jokes in the 80s when i was in yr 7 was about aboriginals "what do you call 4 aboes on the side of the road?" "A kit kat bar" "What do you call an aboe with a suit?" "defended" "what do you call an aboe in a ferarri?" " a thief" "why do they call aboes boongs?" "cause thats the sound they make whehn they get hit by a car"

Its a fallcy that a 13 year old girl didnt know what she was saying, ffs its the 2010s with acess to so much info, of course she knew what she was saying, in fact she prob knew a whole heap of newer insults.

And lets be honest here, the media created a narrative and a dog whistle yet they have escaped any form of criticism. If anything you should direct your disgust at the media. Did you conveniently miss the part where Adam asked the media to leave here alone. I guess it didn't stack up well with your bias.

And most people are not against a tribal dance, but doing it towards opposition supporters during the game was one of the most bizarre things I have ever seen. The gentleman's way is to request to do it pre-game with a couple of teammates, or maybe in front of your own supporters to celebrate a goal.

Do you ever understand the theatre of sport? Do you even want to understand what he did? Or are you pretending to understand? Because to me and a few others who have read your posts you come across as missing the point.

Just imagine how much of a better society we could have if the people who spent all day yesterday and most of this morning bitching about him actually funnelled their energy into positivity? You all just want to hate him as you are all filled with hate and been conditioned by murdochorsy to hate hate hate. Some of you honestly dont know how to control your emotional response due to the levels of immaturity, so the only thing you do is hate.

100+ pages, a plethora of twitter hate, low lifes on facebook spending all day hating him, vandalising his wiki page with racists insults.

No Australians arnt like that, they are some of the most progressive, down to earth and grounded people on this earth. I mean other countries are more racist yeah?

 

[Cleric]

Context and respect. It's not a lot to ask for. Why is it so hard?

I mean think about it. We stole their country and destroyed their way of life. And all they are asking for is Recognition.

We didnt steal their country at all. They were not born before it was well and truely a western country. They didnt grow up when the British settled. They know no other time or world than there is today.

 

[momentbymoment]

We didnt steal their country at all. They were not born before it was well and truely a western country. They didnt grow up when the British settled. They know no other time or world than there is today.

Oh that is so cynical.

You are benefiting every day from the invasion of 1788.

Show some respect ...

 

[CarBigDog]

I guess some people really don't understand irony at all. To those accusing the people that don't like Goodes of being racist, you do realize that you are guilty of the same type of prejudicial intolerance that you supposedly dislike. In America we have some liberals that are very tolerant of everyone else, except those that don't agree with everything they say and feel. Irony is something else.

 

[Xtreme]

I understand that no Hawthorn player in the history of the game has ever slid into a tackle, or hit someone high, or played dirty in any way (Dermott will back me up on this).

And that Hawthorn players (like Lake) are totally hard done by at the tribunal (Petrie did try and defend himself before he passed out).

And your great champions like Hodge and Mitchell never EVER play for frees.

But don't you think the vitriol towards Adam last weekend was just a little over the top?

And a little lacking in respect.

Nope, play like a self entitled person and you get treated accordingly...................

Speaking of Dermott he was asas tough as nails but lets not forget in his later years people turned on him too after stomping on Raiden Tallis' head.

Tony Lockett wasn't very popular after caving in Peter Caven's head

 

[The King!]

Nope, play like a self entitled person and you get treated accordingly...................

Speaking of Dermott he was asas tough as nails but lets not forget in his later years people turned on him too after stomping on Raiden Tallis' head.

Tony Lockett wasn't very popular after caving in Peter Caven's head

Nah by 1995 i realised Caven headbutted plugger

 

[Cleric]

Dude when i was a 12 year old kids in the school playground knew exactly what a boong, aboe etc was.

In fact one of the most popular jokes in the 80s when i was in yr 7 was about aboriginals "what do you call 4 aboes on the side of the road?" "A kit kat bar" "What do you call an aboe with a suit?" "defended" "what do you call an aboe in a ferarri?" " a thief" "why do they call aboes boongs?" "cause thats the sound they make whehn they get hit by a car"

Its a fallcy that a 13 year old girl didnt know what she was saying, ffs its the 2010s with acess to so much info, of course she knew what she was saying, in fact she prob knew a whole heap of newer insults.

Oh please. Lets face facts here, Adam Goodes is a big hairy man, just like Gary Lyon is.
The first thing a 13 year old girl can come up with when she sees a big hairy man is the word Ape. Nothing to do with race, but more to do with a big hairy dude. No different than calling someone "fatso". Im sure if she was looking at a racist comment their were more direct words she could have come up with.
Havent been around many tweenie girls have you?
What happenes to her was pathetic.

 

[The King!]

I think Goodes lost more of the people who disliked the incident with the 13 year old girl the next day with his comments on the face of racisim. If he had of said i heard it and pointed it out didnt even notice who it was or something, at least half those who disliked it would be less annoyed

 

[momentbymoment]

Nope, play like a self entitled person and you get treated accordingly...................

Speaking of Dermott he was asas tough as nails but lets not forget in his later years people turned on him too after stomping on Raiden Tallis' head.

Tony Lockett wasn't very popular after caving in Peter Caven's head

Ok ...
So it's not that Hawthorn is perfect, it's that an aboriginal man is acting 'self entitled'.

I think we are getting closer to the truth.

 

[BORK]

I do not blame Goodes for pointing her out but that girl was failed by many other adults that night.